what sort of news could be expected to move the markets?

[iceman17]

hi guys,

what sort of news could be expexted to move the markets?

i know they say all news is already priced in but i mean what sort of news would indicate this is a bull or bear market or the future looks bright or bleak for the market, forex, commodities or stocks?

Iceman

 

[Trader333]

Take a look at this link and you will see that there are a number of economic announcements scheduled with forecast figures. If the actual result is different to that forecast by a long way then that can move a market. This is mostly for forex but some do apply to indices such as Dow futures as well.


Paul

Forex

 

[shadowninja]

The exact link I was going to post.

Remember when trading the news, you're not trading the news but the reaction to the news. Two distinct and often very different outcomes to what you think it will be.

 

[grantx]

Ice,

Apart from the economic figures in Paul's link there are also major US companies' earnings figures, especially if they reflect current per-occupations, eg financials, oil, etc. Unfortunately, I can't find a timetable for these (day of release is available but not the times). Maybe someone knows a source.

Grant.

 

[Mornington Crescent]

its a game of bluff and double bluff.

sometimes the news is already in the market- but you dont really know
but when the news does not move the market, that is what you say to yourself.

sometimes the news appears unsuspected but if you check your charts, it probably just causes a continuation of the existing trend. Then you tell yourself the smart money already new.

Change in interest rates is a classic. It often causes a reaction but if you check back in a week
the market has probably reversed by then. It depends on your time frame.

Bull markets climb a wall of worry even when the news is not good. Why do you think that is ?
Bear markets tend to fall even on good news. Why do you think that is ?

Trends last longer than you think. Money moves the market, not the news.

And please dont tell me youre a scalper, otherwise this has all been a waste of time.

 

[shadowninja]

And that is why I don't trade the news. It's like a game of poker whereby you don't even know your own hand.

 

[CHRISTO9HER]

Terrorist attacks move markets. And because they are unscheduled, there are no forecast casualty estimates, so the news is NEVER already in the price.

 

[shadowninja]

Terrorist attacks move markets. And because they are unscheduled, there are no forecast casualty estimates, so the news is NEVER already in the price.

I bet those involved in the attack short the indices!

 

[Jaydee]

I bet those involved in the attack short the indices!

There was a lot of people short of airline stocks just before 9/11. Both the FSA and SEC looked into it but couldn't find any evidence of 'foul play'. Hmmm.....

 

[CHRISTO9HER]

I bet those involved in the attack short the indices!

"The Suicide System", they should write an e-book. Enter stop sell order on FTSE just below current price (in case of a failed detonation) and blow the **** out of a train. Guaranteed results or full refund.

(Sorry if my sense of humour is too dark for anyone :whistling)

 

[Magos]

hi guys,

what sort of news could be expexted to move the markets?

i know they say all news is already priced in but i mean what sort of news would indicate this is a bull or bear market or the future looks bright or bleak for the market, forex, commodities or stocks?

Iceman

Economic releases tend to move the market (also unexpected factors, i.e. bombs, hurricante)

this link can be very useful for you since I presume you don’t have Bloomberg or Reuters access plus they require subscription which costs money 

Online Foreign Exchange (Forex) Trading Software: Easy-Forex™ - Financial Calendar

Forex news tends to move by economic releases that have a connection with one of currency pairs.

For example:
Date Time Market Figure Actual Reuters Survey Expected FX pair
10-Jun 14:00 FX CA BOC rate decision 3.00% 2.75% 3.00% -EURCAD


There was an interest rate decision on the Canadian Interest rate on the 10th of June 2008. Therefore if you were short EURCAD, you would have been on the right site of the market. The Rate remain Stable at 3.00% (and did not change according to Reuters Survey.

 

[shadowninja]

Dunno if it is necessarily dark... that was the theme for Casino Royale, wasn't it?

 

[Magos]

Dunno if it is necessarily dark... that was the theme for Casino Royale, wasn't it?

Imagine if we make it more complicated like the US Non-Farm Payroll figure. It can take a day/ maybe a week to explain it LoL.

Let's keep it james bond style :cheesy:

 

[iceman17]

thanks for the link.

can you tell me why it says "CA BOC rate decision 3.00% 2.75% 3.00%"? why are three % rates?

For example:
Date Time Market Figure Actual Reuters Survey Expected FX pair
10-Jun 14:00 FX CA BOC rate decision 3.00% 2.75% 3.00% -EURCAD


There was an interest rate decision on the Canadian Interest rate on the 10th of June 2008. Therefore if you were short EURCAD, you would have been on the right site of the market. There was a rate increase and therefore the EURCAD currency pair tanked.[/QUOTE]

 

[Magos]

Sorry about that is just the text encoding: let make it easy:

Actual:3.00%
Reuters Survey:2.75%
Expected:3.00%

Reuters Survey expected the figure to drop, but the rate remained the same. Therefore the Canadian dollar remained strong.

Sorry about the previous comments. This is the right story.
My apologies I had to make sure I got the story right in the end


You can also check the following link:

Economic calendar | financial calendar | Forex economic calendar
Better late than never

 

[iceman17]

i c, thanks dude.

Sorry about that is just the text encoding: let make it easy:

Actual:3.00%
Reuters Survey:2.75%
Expected:3.00%

Reuters Survey expected the figure to drop, but the rate remained the same. Therefore the Canadian dollar remained strong.

Sorry about the previous comments. This is the right story.
My apologies I had to make sure I got the story right in the end
Better late than never

 

[iceman17]

what moves the market is the social,economicand socail circumstances ,, and the trading world isn't stable and risky as well and there is what is called market analysis which i u can benefit from ,, and also u can use fundamentals in order to control your risk.

tell me more about market analysis..

 

[Yokiro]

The exact link I was going to post.

Remember when trading the news, you're not trading the news but the reaction to the news. Two distinct and often very different outcomes to what you think it will be.

I totally agree with ninja here.

If you really want to trade the news you shouldn't do it while it is being hit. I usually wait 15-25 minutes until it stops moving like crazy. At some point, you will notice where it is going from a certain point. If it went up, go back in the chart and check what's the highest price the currency has reached. From there, compare where it is now after the news and check whether it is likely to go down or stay for a while. If it is likely to go down, you know what to do. And the same applies when the news causes the currency to move down; check the lowest the price has been in the past and go from there.

Word of advice: Although sometimes you see it may be obvious the price will go down or up, place a tight stop-loss. We don't know when the market will stop reacting to the news. I usually wait 15-25 minutes but that doesn't guarantee the market will stop acting like crazy on that time frame. So, place tight stop-losses when trading the news.