what is a trailing stop-loss?

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grubs50

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Can anybody please explain in the most simplest of terms what a trailing stop loss is and how it is applied?
 

mmillar

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Hi,

It is described in the T2W Glossary here... http://www.trade2win.co.uk/boards/glossary.php?s=&ltr=T

As an example...

If you bought at 100, you would put a (fixed) stop loss at 90. If the market rose to, say, 120 then fell back to 90 you would get stopped out at 90 and lose 10 points.

If you bought at 100 and put a 10 point trailing stop loss in it would start at 90 but then each point the market went up the stop loss would move up with it - but if the market moves down the stop loss doesn't. So if the market went to 105 your stop would go to 95. If the market fell to 97 your stop would stay at 95. If the market then went to 120 your stop would rise to 110. If the market then fell to 110 or below you would get stopped out.

Obviously, reverse for going short.

The advantages are that you minimise losses and lock in profits. The disadvantages are that it is easy for a reversal to come back and knock out of the market before carrying on upwards.

HTH
 

grubs50

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Thx 4 the very clear and precise explanation. Can one use it for every trade and is it available with all SB companies?
 

Wideboy

Well-known member
You place your trade and enter a stop there and then.
Once the trade is open, all you need to do is click on the trade in the 'open trades' area and it allows you to enter a new stop level.
So as the price goes in your favour you can amend the stop if you like, to lock in some profits :)
 

grubs50

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I'm a bit of a novice so i still don't understand how one locks in profits doing this, so i will be most grateful if u can elaborate on this point. thx
 

mmillar

Guest
grubs50,

I'm not sure if any SBs offer auto trailing stops (one's where their computer trails the stop for you), but you can do it manually with most (just by cancelling your old stop and putting in a new one). IB does auto trailing stops.

What Wideboy means by 'locking in profit' is that, in my first example above, the market went to 120 but you still lost 10 points (when it fell back to 90). But by having a trailing stop (in the second example) you have 'locked in' 10 points of profit so when the the market falls from 120 to 90 you actually still make 10 points of profit (cause you were stopped out at 110).

Hope that's clearer.
 

Wideboy

Well-known member
If the price goes in your favour after you enter a trade, and you move your stop loss to your actual entry level, then you can let the trade run and the worst that can happen is you will be stopped out for 0.
 

grubs50

Well-known member
thx mmillar and wideboy u have been very helpful...........it seems IGINDEX is the probably the most user-friendly of the SB companies from what i have read so far on this site but i don't understand why there seems to be a lot of ppl trading with D4F.........i mean spreadbetting
 

blyon

Newbie
Good afternoon,

Well, here goes - my first post!

I am fairly new to trading, and have been trying to educate myself through research and seminars (One recently with Sr. Member NAZ - the Daytrading TA course - which was EXCELLENT, by the way)

Despite having done some paper trades, combined with some real trades, I am still not clear on how best to set my initial stops and then trailing stops.

There seems to be several approaches when setting the initial stop (before trailing):

1) Use 7-8% below price movement

2) Use a set amount of cash, determined by the size of your account. ex., Never lose more than £200 (on an account worth 10k)

3) Stick to a percentage (ex., 2% of your account)

Is one method more popular than any other?

If your stock moves up, would it be advisable to use that same % in most cases as your trailing stop, or should the stop be 'loosened' up after locking some profits?

The problem seems to be - especially on Nasdaq stocks, I will get myself stopped out too often with such tight stops.

I assume it has a lot to do with the size of one's trading account. Until I become more experienced, I will most likely swing trade (Nasdaq/NYSE) with an account of £10-15k, so my gut instinct is to set a stop goal so I never risk more than 2% on the initial trade.

Can anyone advise what approach might be best for me for both the initial stop and then the trailing stop?

Thanks!
 

The Beyonder

Active member
Hi blyon

As usual there is no one answer.

A lot depends on what you're trading and also you're typical holding period in time.

Also your own pain threshold will come into it.

I day trade the Dow and find that 25pts is quite good, I also use the centre line of Bollinger Bands after a good run (assuming I make one) :cheesy:
 

blyon

Newbie
Thanks Beyonder...

I suppose that I should continue to paper trade for a while longer until I determine what feels right. I think what I am finding is (like you mentioned) it depends on what you are trading.

I was under the impression that many traders had one method that applies to all their trades, but after speaking to other traders, I now understand that isnt the case, and that I will most likely have to be flexible depending on the type of trade..

...still learning! thanks for the input
 

oatman

Senior member
When you line up to trade, you have a reason. ie you're maybe looking for 30points. You have have decided why you want to enter. Has it broken a trend line, is it running into resistance, have your MAs crossed, or whatever your analysis has shown you. You MUST have also worked out at what point you're wrong. So when does the market say your analysis is wrong? If it's more £$ than you're comfortable with, then it's not your trade.
You must know your "out", your loss, before you enter!

Good luck
 
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