We all make mistakes

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Pete is kicking himself right now. He just made an unexpected losing trade and he feels especially down. He expected to make a killing, and he was looking forward to winning and celebrating big. He thought he had done everything to prepare for the trade. He had looked at the moving average to discern the trend. He looked at the highs and lows of the stock for the past two months, and set his stop loss accordingly. But in his strong desire to believe that he was about to execute a winning trade, he made a fatal error: He forgot to account for an upcoming earnings report. The company failed to meet analysts' forecasts, and the stock fell hard and fast. John didn't lose too much. His protective stop saved him, but it still hurts. He had gotten his hopes up, and now, he is especially disappointed.

Pete's plight is common for both experienced and novice traders alike. There is a strong human need for eternal optimism. Pete isn't naïve. He knows that earnings reports can unexpectedly impact a stock’s price, but he had wanted to make a big winning trade so desperately that his subconscious mind prevented him from seeing matters clearly. Sometimes, we want something so strongly that we see things that just are not there, or we shut out things that we don't want to see. That's what Pete did. He didn't look carefully at all possibilities and he missed the obvious.

Why does Pete feel so badly? It could be for a number of reasons. First, he got his hopes up, but his dreams were dashed. When we expect a big win, and don't get it, we are especially hurt. Second, John may be trying to live up to his own unrealistic, perfectionist standards. He may be beating himself up because he wrongly believes that he must trade to perfection; he must account for all possibilities. It is a fact that had he been able to see that an earnings report was scheduled, an obvious potentially adverse event, he would have saved precious trading capital. But mistakes do happen. We are human. We often let our emotions take over, and when that happens, our rational mind doesn't stand a chance.

How can Pete feel better? He needs to change his frame of reference. When many people make an obvious mistake, they let their superego rule. Our superego consists of the ideals we strive for and the moral rules that our parents taught us while we were youngsters. When many people make a mistake, they treat the situation as if a parent or teacher were scolding them for breaking a rule. They re-experience feelings from childhood, hurt, beaten feelings. In some cases, the feelings may be shame or guilt. This is the wrong frame of reference to use to understand trading setbacks, however. When you lose money on a trade, it is not useful to allow your unconscious to equate the loss with being punished by your parents for breaking a rule. Instead, it is vital to look at matters from the perspective of a trader. Traders are human and they make mistakes. If you make mistakes you are no different from the rest of us humans.
 
Hi

Hope you dont mind me commenting..

Your article mentions the trader making a mistake, what about when you feel you haven't made a mistake yet a trade goes against you, over a small sample size are successful traders not results orientated, is the only result that matters your bottom line or should you judge success and failure against your trading plan? With a purely mechanical style i guess its easy(ish) to accept an element of variance as back testing will have shown this to you. But for a more subjective trader knowing when you have just been unlucky/lucky as opposed to understanding you are actually doing things right/wrong isnt easy in this game. I guess this is where bankroll management, perseverance and a disciplined study of your perceived successes and failures comes into play (and learning from them).

Ive seen a few posts on this site where i feel like saying "what you did was wrong, you are being results orientated, you may have come off ok this time, but do it 1000 times and you will probably loose money" do you feel that concept applies to this particular game (if i can call it a game)?

Just some meandering thoughts.

cheers

Oli
 
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Pete is kicking himself right now. He just made an unexpected losing trade and he feels especially down. He expected to make a killing, and he was looking forward to winning and celebrating big.

Do you mean this Pete?

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Pete is kicking himself right now. He just made an unexpected losing trade and he feels especially down. He expected to make a killing, and he was looking forward to winning and celebrating big. He thought he had done everything to prepare for the trade. He had looked at the moving average to discern the trend. He looked at the highs and lows of the stock for the past two months, and set his stop loss accordingly. But in his strong desire to believe that he was about to execute a winning trade, he made a fatal error: He forgot to account for an upcoming earnings report. The company failed to meet analysts' forecasts, and the stock fell hard and fast. John didn't lose too much. His protective stop saved him, but it still hurts. He had gotten his hopes up, and now, he is especially disappointed.

Had Pete hacked into Johns account perchance?
 
I have a cognitive bias where Joe Birdseye Ross is concerned, as he never answers any of his cr@p threads he starts himself, therefore the content completely washes over me.
 
So does anyone know who or what Joe Ross is?

JOE ROSS ----- WHO THE HELL ARE YOU, YOU WEIRD LOOKING FUNGUS FACE ???
 
Exactly, we want answers Joe Ross. Joe Ross, are you reading this?? Contribute to your own serivce spamming threads you pleb!
 
I suspect Joe is too busy to answer. I think he's like the trading version of Sting - he does a bit of trading, does a bit of hippy style advice and then disappears off for 15hrs of tantric sex with his wife of 76 years to put his karma back into balance.
 
Exactly, we want answers Joe Ross. Joe Ross, are you reading this?? Contribute to your own serivce spamming threads you pleb!

He claims he writes it, and his secretary posts this garbage.

Some muppets must fall for this nonsense, or he wouldnt be spamming here would he ?

The only mistake Joe's made is not stumping up the cash to be an official T2W partner. If he'd paid the protetion money his spam threads wouldnt be disrupted with lulzy comments about fish based products. :LOL:

Get yer credit card out Joe, and enjoy lulz free advertising. You know it makes sense.
 
I suspect Joe is too busy to answer. I think he's like the trading version of Sting - he does a bit of trading, does a bit of hippy style advice and then disappears off for 15hrs of tantric sex with his wife of 76 years to put his karma back into balance.

I never got that whole Tantric sex thing.. who wants to be hammering away for that length of time? Aside from the inevitable chafing (for both parties), it cuts into valuable sleeping time.
 
I never got that whole Tantric sex thing.. who wants to be hammering away for that length of time? Aside from the inevitable chafing (for both parties), it cuts into valuable sleeping time.

There's some fun in being kept 'on the edge' for either party if you know what I mean but 15hr ffs?

Personally, I like to keep it down to < 5mins now so I get a good nights kip.
 
5 minutes? S-T-U-D

What about Tantric trading, any mileage in promoting that? And what would it entail, exactly?
 
5 minutes? S-T-U-D

What about Tantric trading, any mileage in promoting that? And what would it entail, exactly?

I wonder just how much interest it would generate? If people subscribe to astrological based trading then Tantric trading would undoubtedly attract traderloons. Spoof web site? :LOL:

As for the 5mins, 4 mins of it is getting undressed. It's a highly concentrated experience for the recipient.
 
Obviously not wanting to derail the thread too far (??!!!!???) - is that a real Parrot or a Parrot on your T-Shirt?
 
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