Ukraine invasion

[Atilla]

Well, the negotiations have - and will fail - because Ukraine and NATO are talking amongst themselves in a vacuum. Neither of them are engaging in dialogue with Putin and the Russians, let alone addressing the core issues that are the root cause of the war. Whatever one thinks of Trump - at least his administration is talking to Putin and Lavrov.

Two points to bear in mind here. First there are hawks and doves in the US about support for Ukraine. I would go as far as to say Trump has had considerable opposition to his approach and plans at the start. The opposition to Trump may have simmered down but they are still there with alternative objectives. Secondly, Zelensky was not invited to peace talks with Russia couple of months ago. Much of the debate and negotiations didn't include Zelensky.

It seems now, Russia is not consulted as US has stepped back and EU (mainly UK, Germany and France) thinking and searching for how they can profit or grab some concessions from Russia for some payback of sorts. It could be the frozen Russian assets or some other payback. I don't believe we will ever hear the full story as it'll all behind closed doors and under the table horse trading. Eitherway Ukraine is well and trully plucked of her fine feathers.

NATO and the EU are completely sidelined and utterly impotent. They are desperate people resorting to desperate measures with the sole aim of keeping Ukraine afloat financially and keeping the war going. Their worst nightmare is that Putin achieves all the goals he set out at the start of the 'special military operation' and then stops his advance westwards. The insane rhetoric of Mark Rutte, Von der Leyen, Starmer, Macron et al will be exposed for what is is: fear mongering to prop up their failing regimes. When the war ends, their whole raison d'être will be gone and, hopefully, so will they.

Agreed yes. EU countries and weapons industries are lobbying for extra spending, drumming up the war fears. I don't believe EU citizens take the case put forward for Russian expansion or war seriously or even have the stomach for a stupid war which is in no way necessary. Agree fear mongering is futile and I don't see it happening other than the EU caressing public to justify diverting resources to defence spending. I mean the BBC is constantly bullshitting the public about detering Russian expansion from invading other countries. Do people believe this shiite that we are facing invasion by the Russians? Crazy that NATO expands all teh way to Russia's border adn then accuse the Russians of looking to invade European countries.

As for Zelensky, well you know my feeling about that clown. I have a strange feeling the Ukrainian opposition and some of the real and better generals and various patriots he got rid of at the start of the war may ask questions of him. They probably saw these outcomes and wished to prevent the destruction of their country. Zelensky supported by the West got rid of any sensible opposition to his personal interests. That's my take on him.

I don't see the Russian's even attempting to remove him as he is such a disaster for Ukraine. Same for the West as he has their fingers up his arse. I thikn and hope Zelensky is dealt by his own people sooner or later to face the truth and justice for the death and destruction he has brought.