While this thread is rather old I thought I'd offer some insight into TAS tools and trading. For me, I thought they were the best tools I've ever seen. And while I too know they lost a lot of money as has been stated previously I think it's important to separate bad tools from bad trading decisions. TAS was one of the very first rooms I visited when I began learning to trade Futures. I leased and spent a lot of time studying and trying to figure them out. Once again, I was new, inexperienced and, I hate to say, immature. I spent Hundred of hours looking at different charts (Minute, Tick, Volume and Range) and different timeframes and different settings. Sound familiar to anyone. While I was not looking for the Holy Grail I was looking for a large enough chart that captured the dynamic nature of the ES and yet a small enough chart so as not to get blown out of the water with my small trading account. Looking back now, as I've grown and matured as a trader, I was looking for something that didn't exist. While still maturing, learning and developing Market wisdom and savy, I'm using TAS tools in a way that I never would have considered when I first began. The trick to trading TAS tools is in trading multiple timeframes on a larger scale. I trade the tools on Volume charts that are over 40K and on Range charts that are over 8 ticks. I actually trade 7 TAS charts that do an outstanding job of capturing the Market and key turning points. By using different type charts and looking for areas where multiple price levels line up (confluence) I can find key levels of interest. Make no mistake, TAS tools are not easy to learn (or maybe I'm just dumb) but at the end of the day thay have done an incredible job of identifying key levels of interest.