The Lure of Jihad

Pat Riley

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Anthropologist Scott Atran writes in the Guardian about the lure of jihad as an "egalitarian, equal-opportunity employer: fraternal, fast-breaking, glorious and cool" to Western volunteers he describes as "mostly youth in transitional stages in their lives - immigrants, students, between jobs or girlfriends". He adds: "They are self-seekers who have found their way to jihad in myriad ways: through barbecues or on the web; because they were perhaps uncomfortable with binge-drinking or casual sex; or because their parents were humiliated by form-checking bureaucrats or their sisters insulted for wearing a headscarf."

Uncomfortable with binge-drinking or casual sex? Who the hell could be uncomfortable with that?
 

Pat494

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Just seen in the papers - 82 year old granny beheaded by screaming man in black.

Dear oh dear what has Britain become ?
 

postman

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The world was a much nicer place to live in when I was a lad. :mad:

Feck me I sound like my dad. :eek:
 
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Sonicscooter

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The world was a much nicer place to live in when I was a lad. :mad:

Feck me I sound like my dad. :eek:

That means you're probably starting to look like your Dad..............My Dad does look like that old bloke out of Father Ted....and that isn't a joke..........God help me...:(
 

kimo'sabby

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Anthropologist Scott Atran writes in the Guardian about the lure of jihad as an "egalitarian, equal-opportunity employer: fraternal, fast-breaking, glorious and cool" to Western volunteers he describes as "mostly youth in transitional stages in their lives - immigrants, students, between jobs or girlfriends". He adds: "They are self-seekers who have found their way to jihad in myriad ways: through barbecues or on the web; because they were perhaps uncomfortable with binge-drinking or casual sex; or because their parents were humiliated by form-checking bureaucrats or their sisters insulted for wearing a headscarf."

Uncomfortable with binge-drinking or casual sex? Who the hell could be uncomfortable with that?


I stopped reading after the word, Guardian. Let me guess,...it's not 'their' fault?
 

Atilla

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ISIS is a creation of US, UK and Turkey to;

1. bring down Maliki's so said to be non-embracing government
2. release North Kurdistan's oil through pipe-line in Turkey (key objective)
3. raise Sunni representation in Iraqi politics
4. divide up Iraq essentially

Originally established to fight Assad's regime in Syria and to reduce Russian influence.

Before the usual mob cries conspiracy read this... There were 5 ships laden with oil through Iraq with no home or buyer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...e-order-thrown-out-for-texasx-oil-tanker.html

Furthermore, the Ukraine fiasco is much ado about nothing but uncle Sam stirring it up. Ukraine is 95% Russian and even under democratic vote is Russian. Biggest Russian fleet is in the Crimean port of Sevastopol.

So what on Earth are people in Europe and the West and in America barking about I have no idea.

However, another big offensive to hurt Russia and Iran is in the offing. With increase in oil output and a turn in global manufacturing and slow down, it is expected the price of oil and gold will soon drop again. Some analyst say the biggest pain Russia and Iran will feel is when oil drops below $80.


The rest about a few heads been ripped and how much of an outrage all this is and everything to do with religion is the opium of the masses.


There is no God, man created God in his own image to suit his own purposes. Beggars belief that like snake oil salesmen, people can still peddle this **** and minds lap it up.
 
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Mr. Charts

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"There is no God, man created God in his own image to suit his own purposes. Beggars belief that like snake oil salesmen, people can still peddle this **** and minds lap it up."

SPOT ON !!
 

Forexmospherian

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ISIS is a creation of US, UK and Turkey to;

1. bring down Maliki's so said to be non-embracing government
2. release North Kurdistan's oil through pipe-line in Turkey (key objective)
3. raise Sunni representation in Iraqi politics
4. divide up Iraq essentially

Originally established to fight Assad's regime in Syria and to reduce Russian influence.

Before the usual mob cries conspiracy read this... There were 5 ships laden with oil through Iraq with no home or buyer.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-...e-order-thrown-out-for-texasx-oil-tanker.html

Furthermore, the Ukraine fiasco is much ado about nothing but uncle Sam stirring it up. Ukraine is 95% Russian and even under democratic vote is Russian. Biggest Russian fleet is in the Crimean port of Sevastopol.

So what on Earth are people in Europe and the West and in America barking about I have no idea.

However, another big offensive to hurt Russia and Iran is in the offing. With increase in oil output and a turn in global manufacturing and slow down, it is expected the price of oil and gold will soon drop again. Some analyst say the biggest pain Russia and Iran will feel is when oil drops below $80.


The rest about a few heads been ripped and how much of an outrage all this is and everything to do with religion is the opium of the masses.


There is no God, man created God in his own image to suit his own purposes. Beggars belief that like snake oil salesmen, people can still peddle this **** and minds lap it up.

Strong stuff ;-)

You will be telling us next that there's no Father Christmas - All Bankers are deceitful dishonest crooks, all men want more sex,woman fake orgasms, the world is flat ( its got to be - have you heard of anyone falling off it ? )and that after 3 pints of best bitter you are still OK to drive home ;-)

Ok - I believe you - but there again I am a full time experienced Forex Trader and I am totally sensible - unlike 90% of the rest of the world(y)
 

Pat494

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Iraq in my humble opinion should be split into 3 countries.
Kurds in the north, sunnis in the middle and shia in the south.
Otherwise the fighting will go on and on. Israel however stands to gain from a weakened Iraq. The US sponsored Iraq has little support from the people who live there. They have wasted trillions on it, which is very poor judgement as usual.

The USA is also misjudging The Crimea. The majority are Russian and have voted to tie up with Russia. Let them. It is not worth the cost of wrecking the world economy.

Just my tuppence worth.
 

kimo'sabby

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The USA is also misjudging The Crimea. The majority are Russian and have voted to tie up with Russia. Let them. It is not worth the cost of wrecking the world economy.

Unfortunately, that is what the world is about...commodity control.
 

Atilla

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Iraq in my humble opinion should be split into 3 countries.
Kurds in the north, sunnis in the middle and shia in the south.
Otherwise the fighting will go on and on. Israel however stands to gain from a weakened Iraq. The US sponsored Iraq has little support from the people who live there. They have wasted trillions on it, which is very poor judgement as usual.

The USA is also misjudging The Crimea. The majority are Russian and have voted to tie up with Russia. Let them. It is not worth the cost of wrecking the world economy.

Just my tuppence worth.

Yes agree and that was always the agenda.

The Axis-of-Evil business is not over yet though Pat,

Iran is next. Pressure on Russia is growing as the US tightens nuts. Assad manage to survive because of Russian support. Weakend but survived. Attempts to sideline Russia continues againts European interests. German Russian relations still good and will be much in play.

Iran will be destabilised next - I suspect over next elections or possibly with the use of ISIS Sunni v Shia or further Iranian Kurdish conflicts.


The jihadists are mere numbnuts and muppets. Intelligence Officers wet dreams. For $25 one can get a special escort and introduction to ISIS in Turkey as I understand. Holiday of a life time. Sand sea and some short excursions for a shootem up! G8 fun for some.

Anybody notice BBC announces ISIS as militants and not terrorists? Weren't they called geurillas in the past?
 

Pat494

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I see absolutely no lure to fight and die in someone else's crappy war. If the soldiers think they will get anything out of it they must be really stupid. Same old story. The leadership stands to get oil rich wells and power. The PBI won't get much and may well get a hole in the ground for their efforts.

The psycho volunteers may get to chop some heads but are basically unreliable.
 
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Atilla

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I see absolutely no lure to fight and die in someone else's crappy war. If the soldiers think they will get anything out of it they must be really stupid. Same old story. The leadership stands to get oil rich wells and power. The PBI won't get much and may well get a hole in the ground for their efforts.

The psycho volunteers may get to chop some heads but are basically unreliable.


Soldiers die for fighting so called national interest. We get cheap oil and holidays.

Supposedly several hundred muslims have died fighting ISIS not to mention many 000s in Syria but chop off two heads (so we are led to believe) and everyone is up in arms making case for war.

Also further tighten spying rules and laws. So now when you fly you have to declare your inside leg measurements. :LOL: Liberals went againts Cameron I think. Good on them.

Let those who want to fight, fight. Militant or Soldiers pretty much all the same. Men with guns... Some do it for money and some for the cause.

I'm confused as to has the noble high ground :rolleyes:

I'll have to remember to ask my shrink next time I go to see her :devilish:
 
 
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