Spanish Properties

Carlo1

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We are thinking of buying a property in Spain via the Atlas International company click here for their web site http://www.atlasinternational.com/en-gb

Has anyone here had any dealings with this company, or know any one who has. We have heard so many horror stories recently of people paying large deposits for properties abroad and then the building company they are dealing with going bust and taking the deposit with them.

Atlas appears to be a reputable company, they have been in business for 25 years, but one can never be sure can one.
 
Know nothing about Atlas, but do about the Spanish property/tourist business.

After the Madrid bombings, there was an immediate and dramatic impact (negative) on tourism bookings, property and tourist/leisure industry related sectors.

I am sure it is only temporary, but bear this in mind when/if you go forward with a purchase/lease. You can get a very good deal by bringing the initial offer down to a silly starting point (50% as a guide) at the moment.
 
Carlo,

Creo que Bramble tiene razon. Ahora mismo los precios de las casas en Costa del Sol son muy barato.

Pero, cuidado!....lo que necesitas es un notario que conoce bien lo que hace.
 
Yes, but as I say, it's only a temporary situation. Costa property prices have shown regular and long-term increases to date and expectations are that they will continue to do so after the Madrid effect has passed.
 
If you're concerned, it would be best to find an established UK company with overseas affiliates or branches.
 
Always, always use a lawyer. Think with your head - not with your heart.

Why not go over there and rent for a while, look around?
 
Which province is it that's passed a law allowing the local government to compulsorily purchase in order to provide housing for local families?This has been hijacked by developers to legally confiscate people's gardens and build luxury homes.Is it also the case in Spain that a person's debts remain with their property,even when it's sold??
 
If your looking to buy mainly for investment purposes on the costa del sol, these guys are probably your best bet..... www.newspanishproperty.com . We bought through them after looking at many companies, they were very honest and gave us a great lawyer. Our off plan investment (bought not even a year ago) has gone up 30% already, as these guys specialise in this area and get pre-publicised prices.

Although our property won't be built for another 2 years we are going to sell it now, and make our 25-30% TAX FREE! Then buy another.

Happy hunting. :D
 
If you buy before developers start marketing the new project, you can make 10-15% in the space of days if you time it right. Of course make sure you use a reputable developer and check out their previous projects.

Eg. Property price 200,000 euros (30% deposit put down, guaranteed mortgage starts upon completion of property).....4 weeks later 15% rise due to the start of heavy marketing and more buyers.....decide to hold for 1 year, another 15% rise in prices that year......property now worth 260,000euros.

Heres the interesting bit (and completly legal in Spain, done through lawyers).......You market your property for a BARGAIN 250,000 pounds. The buyer now has to pay you the 50,000 euros + your deposit in CASH ( both parties lawyers are present at exchange of cash). This leaves the buyer with the mortgage which will only start upon completion of build.

The buyer gets 10,000 euros discount and a property that will increase X% in the time it takes to build.....and you get a pocket full of cash to lay as deposit on your next purchase... :D

This process happens all the time in Spain, and until The Spanish Goverment put in solid laws, people can carry on making money TAX FREE.

Once you have accumulated enough cash, and want to start spending some (aswell as re-investing of course), you open an offshore account.
You are still a UK resident,paying UK tax from your occupation in the UK!

1. You need someone in the know, to get you on board early.
2. You must be careful and pick a plot/apartment that is one of the best in the development. This will make getting rid of it alot less stressful, as you will sell it quick.
3. You must use a good lawyer that you can trust.
4. You must use a big developer with a reputation to uphold.

After making a bit in UK property over the last 5 years, I am now investing in Spain, I think annual returns will be better over the next 5 years at least. Thats just my opinion, so good luck to all you investors out there whatever your investing in... ;)
 
Excuse me one minute while I stop laughing... :LOL:

Ok, I'm ready now....
Not quite, he's West Indian!.......but he's also very good.

You missed your vocation Chump, Peter Kays gonna be knocking on your door begging for material!!

You sound like your very knowledgable from your wise one liners, but how can I be sure when you don't back it up with anything?

If you know something I don't, please tell me. This is a 'discussion board' after all!

looking forward to another take on the Mongolian joke, be careful not to kill it though!! :|
 
Chump

I don't know the place your talking about! whats the post code?

Cpital Gains....

Let me try and explain the loophole...... You don't actually own the property until it's built (completion). You own the contract, if you hold the contract upon completion, you have to pay capital gains..... If you sell the contract before it's complete you pay NO CAPITAL GAINS.

Opening an Off Shore account....

You can set up a company account in Gibraltar for less than £2000, then pay about £1000 fee per annum. Thats it!

I don't know about you but I want to keep as much of my hard earned money as poss! The goverment will only waste it on things and people that don't deserve it anyway.

Is your accountant related to Gordon Brown?
 
Gibraltar, Jersey, Mauritius, Panama, take your pick from these and many others. It dosen't matter where you keep your money the reasons are still the same!

I don't think the comparison between car dealer and property investor is a good one. Ok you are effectively dealing properties, but who's gonna find you if your 'dealing' under an off-shore company name?
And who cares if your making a few bob anyway, your doing nothing illegal, the tax mans got bigger fish to fry!
 
Careful Red, you don't know who reads these boards!! If you are going to pick an offshore jurisdiction you're better off using one which doesn't have any links to the UK, getting fewer now due to money laundering regs. Hope your company was incorporated using bearer shares and without a corporate reigister, too easily traceable otherwise. Be careful with what you do with your offshore bank statements too.

The Spanish property scheme sounds interesting though, gonna have to look into at that :)
 
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