Robin Watt
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New to this site, but just want to say I know Phil Boakes and unlike 90% of the people involved in this business he makes money for his clients and himself -- any more info. required come back to me.
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chilltrader
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......
Robin/Phil - whats your website? Please let us know immediately!!!
I have my credit card details ready.
Robin/Phil - whats your website? Please let us know immediately!!!
I have my credit card details ready.
Robin Watt
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hmmmmmmm .. at least it has brought you all out from the undergrowth. An it proves that most of us are sceptics in this business. I fancy you are 'pulling my leg' Chilltrader -- as you are a Veteran Trader -- and I grovel to the likes of you, but if you are serious send us your email address and I will pass on the info.. Oh, legendary member -never been to Ulster -- Wales is good enough for me !!
Robin Watt
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P.S. I can see you Veterans like to 'squash' newbies when they first come on.
Claudia123
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I aint a veteran - just tell us what you selling. Be quick before ya get banned :cheesy:
rathcoole_exile
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wtf is "wales"
it doesn't make any sense.
it doesn't make any sense.
livingdaylight
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i subscribed to Phil Boakes' signals. The intro price was like £50 for the month as i recall. Well, there were some winning trades and some losing trades, unfortunately overall i was down. I put it to him who didn't seem to believe me or have the same results even though i traded the same signals. Well, one text did arrive hours late! but even so on the whole i could not have entered the trades that much after him.
He does boast to manage people's account with a 20% return over a year and he seemed very confident in his system despite my own experiences to the contrary. Therefore rather than depending on signals being sent by text i decdided to buy and learn his system. To attend a seminar cost around £900 but if you just bought the book with some support it was £500 Then he gave this 50% discount offer for the £500 package and i went for that believing i was unto a bargain. Well, it was not the same package at all! So, truly i was not receiving the same package but only at 50% discount i was receiving something else-a watered down deal. What i got for £250 was a small folder with some photocpied material. Now, i'm not one for style over substance and wouldn't care if it was handwritten notes if the knowledge was genuine and comprehensible, but nor was that the case.
At least for a complete novice i couldn't make anything out of it. I needed it really broken down in steps and explained one bit at a time How-To-Actually read and setup the trades! I emailed and said that i didn't get it and that i was frankly surprised at what he sent and how it was presented and that in any case i could do nothing with it and get nothing out of it. But Phil wasn't interested and also refused to give me a refund.
There seems to be this prevailing philosophy, the opt out clause, which everyone uses to get out of and avoid responsibility and accountability. That is 'don't use money you're not prepared to lose' which then makes it ok for every tom dick and harry to advertise anything ask money for it and if one has been duped and thrown money into another hole then that is apparently all part of the risk of getting involved in this industry. Its one thing not trading with 'scared' money but its another for teachers and mentors to just grab money off people without care whether their product actually matches up to what is advertised or not and/or whether customers are satisfied with it or not. Doesn't exist as far as i know in any other area of business.
Well, that is my experience of Phil Boakes. It seemed to me that he doesn't use scared money because he uses everybody else's money. Who knows maybe his system does work out for him in the long run but it didn't for me. Who knows maybe the folder he sent me is filled with gems if i just applied them but i wasn't able accessible to me. It's the 'oh, well, i've got your money now - bye then' attitude that hurts.
He does boast to manage people's account with a 20% return over a year and he seemed very confident in his system despite my own experiences to the contrary. Therefore rather than depending on signals being sent by text i decdided to buy and learn his system. To attend a seminar cost around £900 but if you just bought the book with some support it was £500 Then he gave this 50% discount offer for the £500 package and i went for that believing i was unto a bargain. Well, it was not the same package at all! So, truly i was not receiving the same package but only at 50% discount i was receiving something else-a watered down deal. What i got for £250 was a small folder with some photocpied material. Now, i'm not one for style over substance and wouldn't care if it was handwritten notes if the knowledge was genuine and comprehensible, but nor was that the case.
At least for a complete novice i couldn't make anything out of it. I needed it really broken down in steps and explained one bit at a time How-To-Actually read and setup the trades! I emailed and said that i didn't get it and that i was frankly surprised at what he sent and how it was presented and that in any case i could do nothing with it and get nothing out of it. But Phil wasn't interested and also refused to give me a refund.
There seems to be this prevailing philosophy, the opt out clause, which everyone uses to get out of and avoid responsibility and accountability. That is 'don't use money you're not prepared to lose' which then makes it ok for every tom dick and harry to advertise anything ask money for it and if one has been duped and thrown money into another hole then that is apparently all part of the risk of getting involved in this industry. Its one thing not trading with 'scared' money but its another for teachers and mentors to just grab money off people without care whether their product actually matches up to what is advertised or not and/or whether customers are satisfied with it or not. Doesn't exist as far as i know in any other area of business.
Well, that is my experience of Phil Boakes. It seemed to me that he doesn't use scared money because he uses everybody else's money. Who knows maybe his system does work out for him in the long run but it didn't for me. Who knows maybe the folder he sent me is filled with gems if i just applied them but i wasn't able accessible to me. It's the 'oh, well, i've got your money now - bye then' attitude that hurts.
stephen2003
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please tell me more about him.
Robin Watt
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Hi there Living Daylight and Stephen2003. Sorry for late reply, I have been out of the office for ten days --Also, very sorry that your experience with Phil Boakes has been as you describe (Living Daylight).
Mine was similar to yours when I started with him but i persevered as I could see from his website that he continued to make money for his clients and subscribers. You can get into his website and will see that the last few months of last year were very good and the first few months of this year have been modest with a loss in February which he somehow achieves every year and is quite open about it in his daily emails ! This is not an unusual pattern for a Trader-- or is everyone else reading this making 100% every month ??
He does guarantee 20% per annum on your money invested in his fund -- this time last year I put some in and I am about to receive my 20% which will up to 25% when I leave my capital with him. I have further funds with him due to redeem later in the year. He made enough last Dec to cover all his outgoings for the next 12 months on this fund -- I watch his progress every day, even on holiday -- he does take people-potential traders through a Course which costs several thousands but he tutors you for the year as well as setting you up over a four hour initial one to one meeting with laptop and software to a Broker. I have not done that yet preferring to leave my money with him and make the % s mentioned above but I know he has more than 50 traders doing his system.
Also, when I invested the money with him, he refunded all the expenses that I had had with him -- about £875 -- when I initially started out.
If you get through to his website and make personal contact in the future as a result of this email you are reading from me, I would be grateful if you could mention my name. I would welcome any further comments and be happy to try and answer them frankly and honestly -- but I will not be answering sarcastic or vindictive emails -- as I have found Phil Boakes to be an honest bloke working in what is quite frankly a dangerous industry and not for Widows or Orphans.
Mine was similar to yours when I started with him but i persevered as I could see from his website that he continued to make money for his clients and subscribers. You can get into his website and will see that the last few months of last year were very good and the first few months of this year have been modest with a loss in February which he somehow achieves every year and is quite open about it in his daily emails ! This is not an unusual pattern for a Trader-- or is everyone else reading this making 100% every month ??
He does guarantee 20% per annum on your money invested in his fund -- this time last year I put some in and I am about to receive my 20% which will up to 25% when I leave my capital with him. I have further funds with him due to redeem later in the year. He made enough last Dec to cover all his outgoings for the next 12 months on this fund -- I watch his progress every day, even on holiday -- he does take people-potential traders through a Course which costs several thousands but he tutors you for the year as well as setting you up over a four hour initial one to one meeting with laptop and software to a Broker. I have not done that yet preferring to leave my money with him and make the % s mentioned above but I know he has more than 50 traders doing his system.
Also, when I invested the money with him, he refunded all the expenses that I had had with him -- about £875 -- when I initially started out.
If you get through to his website and make personal contact in the future as a result of this email you are reading from me, I would be grateful if you could mention my name. I would welcome any further comments and be happy to try and answer them frankly and honestly -- but I will not be answering sarcastic or vindictive emails -- as I have found Phil Boakes to be an honest bloke working in what is quite frankly a dangerous industry and not for Widows or Orphans.
Robin Watt
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Hi Kamma,
I know Phil Boakes and am happy to speak positively of his credentials. Please say what you want to know about him.
Read earlier emails that I have posted on this Thread.
Regards, Robin.
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Very dedicated salesmen.
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so you guys got a website we can look at or what?
Tenapenny
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Maybe they're knocking one up over the weekend.
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Thanks for that Claudia. I see he's had the domain since 2006 but I don't think I'll be signing up anytime soon. :|
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Yes, I have found a system that is 100% accurate now -
While I don't dispute that you are getting your agreed returns of 20% you also did admit having the same experience of failing when using his signals which you admit to subscribing to initially. That is partly what I'm referring to when sharing my experience which you can't deny. Maybe my bad luck to get involved just when he had a downturn which you say is part of every successful traders overall trading pattern, but nonetheless his signals were FAIL in my experience.
My "discounted" course was also a waste of money, have you bought and looked at it? No doubt the more expensive one is a better overall package but I wasn't going to find out after being bitten twice already.
Its the lack of care that I found shocking that was most disappointing. If someone was dissatisfied with my service or product and I was both successful and felt I was delivering a genuine product I would without hesitation make sure that that they were not left bitter.
