Waspwasp said:
I second that - Jon is doing a good job under difficult circumstances, devoting his time to what can be a thankless task.
He should be supported by all those who would like to see T2W thrive and not condemned.
Bear in mind that this is a voluntary unpaid post
Thank You Jon
Charlton
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I'll drink to that!wasp said:
Thanks for fighting a tough battle single handed Jon; I for one appreciate the work you do. I suspect that those that criticise your efforts are prone to forget that you aren't a salaried man. I'm paid handsomely for my day job and I doubt that I do it half as well as you moderate T2W for FREEEEE!
Respect!
Tim.
timsk said:
Jon,
You always say that you prefer the laid back, armchair, legs up, drink in hand type of investing to the daily knocks of short term trading.
Are you in the same position when you take stern, disciplinary, action with us, perhaps, with a wireless keyboard? 🙂
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Splitlink said:
I suspect modding is deceptively difficult - giving the impression of ease and laid-backness, but manic activity behind the scenes.
It cant be healthy to have to monitor overly-long posts, just in case there is some specific insult or litiguous remark that threatens to kick-off.
Hats off to the mods - once again.
Still, rather you than me!
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Splitlink said:
split
Good job I conduct most of my trading with resting orders since the diversion of modding would have cost me dear 😉
Modding is a bit like day-trading. Miss the signal bar that sets the trend off and you're forever chasing the market trying to turn the tide.
Many thanks for your support everyone, it's much appreciated. 😀
good trading
jon
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The issue need not necessarily be the number of mods but rather what it is exactly that the mods are supposed to do. Praising a moderator for doing a great job and criticizing him for doing a terrible job are equally inappropriate if no one agrees on what it is that the moderator is supposed to do.
If the moderator's job is to delete posts, there will be no end to it. If the moderator's job is to suspend the accounts of those whose behavior is generating the posts, then the problem of the posts virtually disappears. In other words, one can follow the dog day and night with a pooper-scooper, or he can get rid of the dog.
All of the turmoil of the last two months has centered around two people. If the moderators are tired of deleting posts and being referees, the solution is rather obvious.
If the moderator's job is to delete posts, there will be no end to it. If the moderator's job is to suspend the accounts of those whose behavior is generating the posts, then the problem of the posts virtually disappears. In other words, one can follow the dog day and night with a pooper-scooper, or he can get rid of the dog.
All of the turmoil of the last two months has centered around two people. If the moderators are tired of deleting posts and being referees, the solution is rather obvious.
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Splitlink said:
There are also a lot of dog lovers on the Yahoo message boards, but I've always believed that t2w aspired to more than that. That's why I accepted the invitation to join the board in the first place.
There are no difficulties. Calling t2w members morons, dunces, intellectual pygmies who are stupid and worthless etc should not be acceptable, but, clearly, it is. Therefore, the powers have to decide just what it is that they want. Otherwise, they're going to be spending a great deal of time deleting posts, to no avail.
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Funnily enough, it typed a post out yesterday highlighting dogs on and off leashes, need for muzzles so the park space can be enjoyed for other owners and their socially able to function dog. But I binned it.
Due to flare ups with any humans aint dogs buddy.... but i think the comparison is ok on behaviour terms.
Humans are more stubborn ? most dogs can adapt with training to change their behaviour , which benefits the same dog anyway in the long run, and the owners, and the other able to function already social muts in the park .
All round winners for everyone. Now the old stubborn socially disfunctioning dog at first will naturally attempt to pull on the leash, growl & snap maybe he's used to his old ways and rightly so, only there can be better ways for the poochie, what the dog needs is a good handler.
Humans when we get past (what 12?) are pretty much our own handlers , weve had basic training or not depending on own handlers at the time . I guess its trial and error of self management or not until a psycho maturity kicks in , (mid 20 to 35) self quality training for advancing self begins then if we are fortunate ? And maybe at this time the old dog within is still snapping against wanting to change.
And it needs a more skilful "seeing" input from here on with this post to highlight the sticking point from a person wanting to advance? for the better of self and his or her interaction with other selfs . Many reasons I expect, self hate, self harm, dont deserve it, low esteem , having a extreme laugh winding others up? on and on... but inside everyone is a core of possibility I believe . I can see that possibilty in others, all others, but others cant see it in themselves maybe. Do they need more time ,empathy discussion , care in the community, well this is a community, and who cares ?
Humanistic and holistic solution please anyone? or do we just get the baseball bats out , I'd like to think that there is a better way.
Due to flare ups with any humans aint dogs buddy.... but i think the comparison is ok on behaviour terms.
Humans are more stubborn ? most dogs can adapt with training to change their behaviour , which benefits the same dog anyway in the long run, and the owners, and the other able to function already social muts in the park .
All round winners for everyone. Now the old stubborn socially disfunctioning dog at first will naturally attempt to pull on the leash, growl & snap maybe he's used to his old ways and rightly so, only there can be better ways for the poochie, what the dog needs is a good handler.
Humans when we get past (what 12?) are pretty much our own handlers , weve had basic training or not depending on own handlers at the time . I guess its trial and error of self management or not until a psycho maturity kicks in , (mid 20 to 35) self quality training for advancing self begins then if we are fortunate ? And maybe at this time the old dog within is still snapping against wanting to change.
And it needs a more skilful "seeing" input from here on with this post to highlight the sticking point from a person wanting to advance? for the better of self and his or her interaction with other selfs . Many reasons I expect, self hate, self harm, dont deserve it, low esteem , having a extreme laugh winding others up? on and on... but inside everyone is a core of possibility I believe . I can see that possibilty in others, all others, but others cant see it in themselves maybe. Do they need more time ,empathy discussion , care in the community, well this is a community, and who cares ?
Humanistic and holistic solution please anyone? or do we just get the baseball bats out , I'd like to think that there is a better way.
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Crap Buddist said:
If the moderator is to be therapist and the forum group therapy, then perhaps, but I suspect that most would consider this to be unreasonable.
I suspect that what most participants want is the opportunity to discuss trades and trading without having to concern themselves with being attacked and belittled. If they can't have at least that, then what's the point?
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Agree, its not down to mods to be the handlers, most people should be able to have a go at self handling what i think it needs as it is in the real world are signs, order signs, for instance dogs must be kept on leash (in the area etc) and for on these boards, the sign debate ideas, not the posters sanity!
Chump mentioned idea of signs, (these are subtle order signs,+ info reminders), I think these would work, with absolutely no harm to those who flick eyes on them ? why they are not up already I do not know, especially as its a growing community. It will help the mods, not having to remind behaviour, help members .
perfect ,no lose, little cost ,huge potential benefits.
Chump mentioned idea of signs, (these are subtle order signs,+ info reminders), I think these would work, with absolutely no harm to those who flick eyes on them ? why they are not up already I do not know, especially as its a growing community. It will help the mods, not having to remind behaviour, help members .
perfect ,no lose, little cost ,huge potential benefits.
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Another idea, the members choose to display under their avatar or something.
Support positive posting Logo
its a visible badge of supporting standards awareness of acceptable behaviour laid out in the spec, and will gather momemtum. Those who choose not to display it may have an issue or be worried that they may not be able to control themselves and argue till blue in the face for why they shouldnt be displaying one.
but..... worth a go?
Support positive posting Logo
its a visible badge of supporting standards awareness of acceptable behaviour laid out in the spec, and will gather momemtum. Those who choose not to display it may have an issue or be worried that they may not be able to control themselves and argue till blue in the face for why they shouldnt be displaying one.
but..... worth a go?
