TheBramble
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Qaza - you might be right but Fruity hasn't suggested any kind of commercial aspect to his/her system AFAIAA.
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If Fruity is mug2k then he must have swallowed Roget's Thesaurus, the Oxford English Dictionary, and Eats Shoots & Leaves, because his command of English has been transformed. :cheesy:
Options,
Your right about systems without a stop-loss should be avoided or traded with care.
My system will be backed up by a quality back test; I then will apply good money management, so that it can last until the system edge kicks in.
Any way I appreciate your constructive comments. All the best to you.
I will be trading this strategy for real. The upcoming trade will be my first real trade. I have slightly over 5k in my account. Let’s see how long that will last.
I have no intentions of charging
The sell limit I placed yesterday has now been adjusted to 10508, if triggered then target would be 10408.
CT
Your right about systems without a stop-loss should be avoided or traded with care.
My system will be backed up by a quality back test; I then will apply good money management, so that it can last until the system edge kicks in.
Any way I appreciate your constructive comments. All the best to you.
I will be trading this strategy for real. The upcoming trade will be my first real trade. I have slightly over 5k in my account. Let’s see how long that will last.
I have no intentions of charging
The sell limit I placed yesterday has now been adjusted to 10508, if triggered then target would be 10408.
CT
TheBramble
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Fruity said:
It closed at 10510. Does that mean the sell has been triggered and you're now short with a target of 10408?
Tony,
I’m following the Dow futures, so the sell limit hasn’t been triggered yet
JonhyT,
I don’t believe in handing everything on a plate. Some things you have to work out for your self. In that way you learn more. I’m sure you know what I mean, as you’re a system trader yourself.
I won’t be around for ever, so while I’m posting my signals along the way, you all can try and work out the system yourselves. I give you guy’s one big clue, it uses only one indicator.
My mission now is to try and work your system JT, or something similar. You given me a few clues scattered around this bb to work on. I’m very grateful for that. Unless you want trade your system with one of mine to save each other some time, I be happy to.
CT
I’m following the Dow futures, so the sell limit hasn’t been triggered yet
JonhyT,
I don’t believe in handing everything on a plate. Some things you have to work out for your self. In that way you learn more. I’m sure you know what I mean, as you’re a system trader yourself.
I won’t be around for ever, so while I’m posting my signals along the way, you all can try and work out the system yourselves. I give you guy’s one big clue, it uses only one indicator.
My mission now is to try and work your system JT, or something similar. You given me a few clues scattered around this bb to work on. I’m very grateful for that. Unless you want trade your system with one of mine to save each other some time, I be happy to.
CT
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Fruity,
a problem shared is a problem halved/thirded/quarted etc
anyone know the term for the reciprocal of 8000?
JonhyT,
I don’t believe in handing everything on a plate
so Fruity, what is the point in posting ure trades?? is it just so you have a record of your trades for the taxman? if so, im not too sure Sharky will be too happy with his servers overload.
Personally im with JT on this one.. i assumed this forum was for the exchange of information, not indoctrination. Its not personal Fruity, im just trying to help.. your system of 100 points a month is nothing to shout home about.. there are plenty of people here who if you are willing to learn from should be able to bump that up three- or four-fold without too much effort.
Unless you want trade your system with one of mine to save each other some time, I be happy to.
hmm, i really dont see this one happening.. lol
BUT, we can draw a positive from this.. you imply that you have attempted to construct more than one system. what caused you to reject the previous methods in favour of one that returns 100 points / month??? Maybe if you share your reasons for rejection then we can make suggestions to modify those. so even if you are unwilling to share your latest brainwave, then you might be able to transfer those suggestions to your latest masterpiece.
no personal offence intended anywhere.. just my attempt to be constructive..
FC
a problem shared is a problem halved/thirded/quarted etc
anyone know the term for the reciprocal of 8000?
JonhyT,
I don’t believe in handing everything on a plate
so Fruity, what is the point in posting ure trades?? is it just so you have a record of your trades for the taxman? if so, im not too sure Sharky will be too happy with his servers overload.
Personally im with JT on this one.. i assumed this forum was for the exchange of information, not indoctrination. Its not personal Fruity, im just trying to help.. your system of 100 points a month is nothing to shout home about.. there are plenty of people here who if you are willing to learn from should be able to bump that up three- or four-fold without too much effort.
Unless you want trade your system with one of mine to save each other some time, I be happy to.
hmm, i really dont see this one happening.. lol
BUT, we can draw a positive from this.. you imply that you have attempted to construct more than one system. what caused you to reject the previous methods in favour of one that returns 100 points / month??? Maybe if you share your reasons for rejection then we can make suggestions to modify those. so even if you are unwilling to share your latest brainwave, then you might be able to transfer those suggestions to your latest masterpiece.
no personal offence intended anywhere.. just my attempt to be constructive..
FC
Mr Chinos,
”a problem shared is a problem halved/thirded/quarted etc”
Whats the problem? I don’t have a problem.
“so Fruity, what is the point in posting ure trades?? is it just so you have a record of your trades for the taxman? if so, im not too sure Sharky will be too happy with his servers overload.”
I’m posting the trades to prove that my system works and that a system does not necessary need a stop loss to be profitable. My eod system is only going to produce about 10-20 trades in a year. So if I keep a record of it, how much memory is that gonna take, 1MB? 2GB’s?? I’m sure Sharky doesn’t mind.
“your system of 100 points a month is nothing to shout home about”
You can say that again. But hey, at the end of the day the system works, the system has a good win loss rate and it’s an eod system. In other words it’s easy to follow; you don’t need much time and attention to trade it.
BUT, we can draw a positive from this.. you imply that you have attempted to construct more than one system. what caused you to reject the previous methods in favour of one that returns 100 points / month???
The ones I’ve rejected either don’t work or don’t make enough.
The 100pts a month system is just something on the side and I’m still working on it. My bread and butter system is one I use to trade the first two hours of the dax open. The rest of the day is spent on other commitments.
no personal offence intended anywhere.. just my attempt to be constructive..
I understand, no offence taken.
CT
”a problem shared is a problem halved/thirded/quarted etc”
Whats the problem? I don’t have a problem.
“so Fruity, what is the point in posting ure trades?? is it just so you have a record of your trades for the taxman? if so, im not too sure Sharky will be too happy with his servers overload.”
I’m posting the trades to prove that my system works and that a system does not necessary need a stop loss to be profitable. My eod system is only going to produce about 10-20 trades in a year. So if I keep a record of it, how much memory is that gonna take, 1MB? 2GB’s?? I’m sure Sharky doesn’t mind.
“your system of 100 points a month is nothing to shout home about”
You can say that again. But hey, at the end of the day the system works, the system has a good win loss rate and it’s an eod system. In other words it’s easy to follow; you don’t need much time and attention to trade it.
BUT, we can draw a positive from this.. you imply that you have attempted to construct more than one system. what caused you to reject the previous methods in favour of one that returns 100 points / month???
The ones I’ve rejected either don’t work or don’t make enough.
The 100pts a month system is just something on the side and I’m still working on it. My bread and butter system is one I use to trade the first two hours of the dax open. The rest of the day is spent on other commitments.
no personal offence intended anywhere.. just my attempt to be constructive..
I understand, no offence taken.
CT
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Fruity, I'm all for sharing trading systems - embryonic or not, in order to test theories and share the workload and effort in developing and enhancing them - but there are not many on t2w who have the time or inclination to play guessing games.
If you're serious about your system and your intent - publish it.
Although you may feel you have something truly superb to offer, it may only be something that somebody else tried way back and knows doesn't work.
Saves a lot of time and means we can get on with more fruit-ful (sorry, couldn't resist it) avenues of research.
If you're serious about your system and your intent - publish it.
Although you may feel you have something truly superb to offer, it may only be something that somebody else tried way back and knows doesn't work.
Saves a lot of time and means we can get on with more fruit-ful (sorry, couldn't resist it) avenues of research.
Brambles,
“Fruity, I'm all for sharing trading systems.”
Where’s your trading system?
“If you're serious about your system and your intent - publish it.”
I am serious about my system, that’s why I’ll be posting the trades I take.
“Although you may feel you have something truly superb to offer, it may only be something that somebody else tried way back and knows doesn't work”.
You will find out in time, not the system as you’re not into playing guessing games, but whether the system works or not.
“Saves a lot of time and means we can get on with more fruit-ful (sorry, couldn't resist it) avenues of research.”
Go for it mate!
There are traders out there that have systems that can easily make two, three hundred pts a week, my system would look like a joke to them. You have to understand, what I am posting here is not intended for those accomplished traders. I’m not here to compete for the best systems trader trophy. I’m posting trades for the purpose of helping the not so well off traders to make some money, while they embark on their trading journey.
I wish someone did that for me when I was on that journey.
CT
“Fruity, I'm all for sharing trading systems.”
Where’s your trading system?
“If you're serious about your system and your intent - publish it.”
I am serious about my system, that’s why I’ll be posting the trades I take.
“Although you may feel you have something truly superb to offer, it may only be something that somebody else tried way back and knows doesn't work”.
You will find out in time, not the system as you’re not into playing guessing games, but whether the system works or not.
“Saves a lot of time and means we can get on with more fruit-ful (sorry, couldn't resist it) avenues of research.”
Go for it mate!
There are traders out there that have systems that can easily make two, three hundred pts a week, my system would look like a joke to them. You have to understand, what I am posting here is not intended for those accomplished traders. I’m not here to compete for the best systems trader trophy. I’m posting trades for the purpose of helping the not so well off traders to make some money, while they embark on their trading journey.
I wish someone did that for me when I was on that journey.
CT
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You tell em Mugsy
Back Test Results
06/01/03 100 05/01/00 100
23/01/03 100 14/01/00 100
19/02/03 100 21/01/00 100
27/02/03 100 06/03/00 -476
17/03/03 100 09/03/00 100
01/04/03 -275 22/03/00 100
16/04/03 100 18/04/00 100
29/05/03 100 26/04/00 -363
24/06/03 100 05/05/00 100
03/07/03 100 17/05/00 100
11/07/03 100 24/05/00 100
13/08/03 100 05/06/00 100
26/08/03 -92 23/06/00 100
01/09/03 100 10/07/00 100
11/09/03 100 27/07/00 100
19/09/03 -120 07/08/00 100
25/09/03 100 15/09/00 100
07/10/03 100 25/10/00 100
27/10/03 -138 14/11/00 100
30/10/03 100 06/12/00 100
18/11/03 100 18/12/00 100
05/12/03 100 28/12/00 100
10/01/02 100 15/01/99 100
14/02/02 100 23/02/99 100
20/02/02 100 01/03/99 100
26/02/02 100 09/03/99 100
25/03/02 100 25/03/99 -127
16/05/02 100 30/03/99 100
22/05/02 100 25/05/99 100
31/07/02 100 08/06/99 100
06/08/02 100 15/06/99 100
12/08/02 100 30/06/99 100
30/08/02 100 27/07/99 100
11/09/02 -250 16/08/99 100
16/09/02 100 30/08/99 100
18/10/02 100 07/10/99 100
12/11/02 100 14/10/99 100
25/11/02 100 25/10/99 100
06/12/02 100 13/01/98 -140
22/02/01 100 21/01/98 100
08/03/01 100 28/04/98 100
20/03/01 100 05/05/98 -152
28/03/01 100 08/05/98 100
04/04/01 100 09/06/98 -283
11/04/01 100 15/06/98 100
29/05/01 100 25/06/98 100
06/06/01 100 23/07/98 100
18/07/01 100 20/08/98 100
25/07/01 100 02/09/98 100
01/08/01 100 15/09/98 100
09/08/01 100 02/10/98 100
01/10/01 100 13/10/98 100
19/10/01 -239 03/12/98 100
26/01/01 100 22/12/98 100
03/10/01 100
06/10/01 100
29/11/01 100
07/12/01 100
14/12/01 100
19/12/01 100
22/02/01 100
As you can see, the results don’t look too bad. Be warned though, some trades can go in the red by about 500pts.
Spreadbetters, I recommend a maximum stake of a £1 for every 2k
Trading the ym, you would need at least 5k for every contract
If you are going to follow my trades then it’s at your own risk, past performance doe’s not mean it will repeat in the future.
06/01/03 100 05/01/00 100
23/01/03 100 14/01/00 100
19/02/03 100 21/01/00 100
27/02/03 100 06/03/00 -476
17/03/03 100 09/03/00 100
01/04/03 -275 22/03/00 100
16/04/03 100 18/04/00 100
29/05/03 100 26/04/00 -363
24/06/03 100 05/05/00 100
03/07/03 100 17/05/00 100
11/07/03 100 24/05/00 100
13/08/03 100 05/06/00 100
26/08/03 -92 23/06/00 100
01/09/03 100 10/07/00 100
11/09/03 100 27/07/00 100
19/09/03 -120 07/08/00 100
25/09/03 100 15/09/00 100
07/10/03 100 25/10/00 100
27/10/03 -138 14/11/00 100
30/10/03 100 06/12/00 100
18/11/03 100 18/12/00 100
05/12/03 100 28/12/00 100
10/01/02 100 15/01/99 100
14/02/02 100 23/02/99 100
20/02/02 100 01/03/99 100
26/02/02 100 09/03/99 100
25/03/02 100 25/03/99 -127
16/05/02 100 30/03/99 100
22/05/02 100 25/05/99 100
31/07/02 100 08/06/99 100
06/08/02 100 15/06/99 100
12/08/02 100 30/06/99 100
30/08/02 100 27/07/99 100
11/09/02 -250 16/08/99 100
16/09/02 100 30/08/99 100
18/10/02 100 07/10/99 100
12/11/02 100 14/10/99 100
25/11/02 100 25/10/99 100
06/12/02 100 13/01/98 -140
22/02/01 100 21/01/98 100
08/03/01 100 28/04/98 100
20/03/01 100 05/05/98 -152
28/03/01 100 08/05/98 100
04/04/01 100 09/06/98 -283
11/04/01 100 15/06/98 100
29/05/01 100 25/06/98 100
06/06/01 100 23/07/98 100
18/07/01 100 20/08/98 100
25/07/01 100 02/09/98 100
01/08/01 100 15/09/98 100
09/08/01 100 02/10/98 100
01/10/01 100 13/10/98 100
19/10/01 -239 03/12/98 100
26/01/01 100 22/12/98 100
03/10/01 100
06/10/01 100
29/11/01 100
07/12/01 100
14/12/01 100
19/12/01 100
22/02/01 100
As you can see, the results don’t look too bad. Be warned though, some trades can go in the red by about 500pts.
Spreadbetters, I recommend a maximum stake of a £1 for every 2k
Trading the ym, you would need at least 5k for every contract
If you are going to follow my trades then it’s at your own risk, past performance doe’s not mean it will repeat in the future.
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As you all know I’m not charging a penny for my trades
Some people may think that I’m a mug for doing this, but I couldn’t care less.
Posting my trades takes only a little effort for me, but may help a lot of people.
If you appreciate what I’m doing and would like to give a little back, now or in the future. Then any of these charities will benefit a great deal. Thank You!
nspcc.org.uk
redcross.org.uk
cancerresearchuk.org
CT
Some people may think that I’m a mug for doing this, but I couldn’t care less.
Posting my trades takes only a little effort for me, but may help a lot of people.
If you appreciate what I’m doing and would like to give a little back, now or in the future. Then any of these charities will benefit a great deal. Thank You!
nspcc.org.uk
redcross.org.uk
cancerresearchuk.org
CT
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