Blair Government under police investigation for war crimes

[Crap Buddist]

Blair Government under police investigation for war crimes & apparently ALL UK citizens are complicit and have a duty to report this . And it is illegal to PAY TAX which is used to fund operations in Iraq.
It is a criminal offence to do so . So no citizen can or must pay it.

Please watch Lawyers video conference 2008 advising the situation. Appx. 40 mins


Blair Government under police investigation for war crimes.

1)why is this not our news ?

2)Who do we report to ?

3)what the hells going on ?

 

[Crap Buddist]

" In 2001 Parliament ratified the Rome Statute and enacted the International Criminal Court Act, which not only made genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and conduct ancillary to such crimes universal criminal offences, but for the first time in 1600 years placed every British citizen or resident under the jurisdiction of an external law enforcement authority, the International Criminal Court in The Hague. This means that if the UK’s law enforcement authorities fail to carry out their duty to enforce the laws of war the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court can take over the responsibility on behalf of the international community and prosecute any resident of Britain for taking part in genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes."

source.

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I dunno, I feel , as a human I am being squeezed to act, knowing 10,000 of kids have been slaughtered .. And we are lawfully bound to having to act, else we are as guilty of the crime itself ?

What does anyone else feel on it ?

cheers.

 

[arabianights]

Seems perfectly logical to me, by paying tax you are supporting the government's crimes. End of.

The only issue is the government will chuck you in gaol if you don't, and ultimately will kill you if you try to resist. Absolutely no functional difference to the Mafia, except the latter at least have a bit of discretion and less bureaucracy.

Yet more reasons to create a new country somewhere!

 

[Trader333]

This means that if the UK’s law enforcement authorities fail to carry out their duty to enforce the laws of war the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court can take over the responsibility on behalf of the international community and prosecute any resident of Britain for taking part in genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes."

We will just decide to opt out if it became of any major concern. Let's face it how will this be enforced ? Not by military action because the UK and US are the only two Western nations willing to commit to any form of military action so I guess nothing will happen.


Paul

 

[westernforce]

the UK and US are the only two Western nations willing to commit to any form of military action
Paul

Steady on there Mate, a few blokes in Iraq may dissagree with you.

 

[zambuck]

.....This was an illegal war but hype was so much that 70% of people supported it at that time.....

......any war's reality and it's effect on everyone comes much later after the damage has been done.....

.....But by then the purveyors of war have had achieved their initial means.....

 

[Trader333]

Steady on there Mate, a few blokes in Iraq may dissagree with you.

Fair point, I was not intentionally discounting others.


Paul

 

[ZEPPO]

.....This was an illegal war but hype was so much that 70% of people supported it at that time.....

QUOTE]

Sorry there, zambuck; there was no hype, only lies.
If a Head of Government declares that another nation is 45 minutes from creating, and using against yours, nuclear weapons, you act in consequence.
The British Prime Minister and his Government lied to the people of Great Britain who, with good reason, took his words as the truth and defended themselves from a (wrongly) perceived threat.
It is not surprising then that 70% agreed to it; I wonder who are the other 30% who did disagree, and on what basis they did it.

Eduardo.

 

[zambuck]

...agree with your post.....

....30% were the silent ones who were better informed and were not easily led by 'Daily Bile' of tabloids and media.....

 

[Splitlink]

" In 2001 Parliament ratified the Rome Statute and enacted the International Criminal Court Act, which not only made genocide, crimes against humanity, war crimes and conduct ancillary to such crimes universal criminal offences, but for the first time in 1600 years placed every British citizen or resident under the jurisdiction of an external law enforcement authority, the International Criminal Court in The Hague. This means that if the UK’s law enforcement authorities fail to carry out their duty to enforce the laws of war the Prosecutor of the International Criminal Court can take over the responsibility on behalf of the international community and prosecute any resident of Britain for taking part in genocide, crimes against humanity or war crimes."

source.

Make Wars History: Frequently Asked Questions


Looks like the paperwork we have ? to download and send off, is at that site ..below.

Make Wars History:


I dunno, I feel , as a human I am being squeezed to act, knowing 10,000 of kids have been slaughtered .. And we are lawfully bound to having to act, else we are as guilty of the crime itself ?

What does anyone else feel on it ?

cheers.

It has to be proved that Blair, as Prime Minister, deliberately intended to cause the slaughter of these people. I don't believe that he did, not in the way that Hitler did. That would be genicide. It can, also, be argued that we are responsible for the starvation in Africa. We are, but I do not think that there are many people, especially politicians, who could point a finger at anyone else, except those who, deliberately, caused that starvation.

Humanity, in general, is indifferent to inhumanity, unless they are the underdog. That is the same in all walks of life.

Split

 

[Trader333]

Where did the figure of 70% of the UK population agreeing come from ? Most people I know were against it and a lot went on anti-war protests. In my view the figure was well below 50% and was only hyped up by the media to be any higher.

People talk about all this slaughter as if it were somehow more important when a Western alliance is involved than when they are not. There has been little if any attempt to address the over 1 million people that were also slaughtered during the Iran - Iraq war of the 1980s. Are we really saying that this should be less of an issue than the more recent conflict ?


Paul

 

[Splitlink]

Where did the figure of 70% of the UK population agreeing come from ? Most people I know were against it and a lot went on anti-war protests. In my view the figure was well below 50% and was only hyped up by the media to be any higher.

People talk about all this slaughter as if it were somehow more important when a Western alliance is involved than when they are not. There has been little if any attempt to address the over 1 million people that were also slaughtered during the Iran - Iraq war of the 1980s. Are we really saying that this should be less of an issue than the more recent conflict ?


Paul

I agree with you on this, Paul. Blair did not have a majority mandate by the people to go into Iraq. I mentioned this on another forum, at the time and, although I agreed with him that we should do so, I said "only, if the majority wanted to" and I could see that that was not so. So I said no, in the end, although I was in favour.

Blair had a few years to go before the elections but the same was not true for Spain's Aznar, who had less than a year. There were millions out on the streets protesting against it and the socialist party made the most of the issue. I can only suggest that Spain had a problem with ETA and Morrocco (over Ceuta and Melilla) and he probably thought that he may need some help from the West at some time. Nevertheless, it was an appalling political blunder. Zapatero gained popular support by whipping the soldiers out of there and has made a ******** of everything, ever since!.

Now, does that make Blair guilty of the murder of Iraqi lives? I don't think that there is anyone in politics who can point fingers at him, or anyone else.

We are humans. This is what humans do.

Not to say that I am a Blair follower. He left the UK, just before the financial debacle and has made millions (and is still doing so). An opportunist if ever there was one, but that's another issue.

Split

 

[zambuck]

Almost three quarters of British people believe there should be a public inquiry into the invasion of Iraq, an opinion poll suggests.

Reality of hyped up war based on non existant weapons comes home to roost......

The mess is now being questioned by people....

Too late to question this now....it was a mess before it began and it is a mess even now....

Read on below......

BBC NEWS | Politics | Majority 'want Iraq war inquiry'

 

[dcraig1]

Almost three quarters of British people believe there should be a public inquiry into the invasion of Iraq, an opinion poll suggests.

Too late to question this now....it was a mess before it began and it is a mess even now....

Indeed, it will not bring back the dead, but still, the more questioning the better. It makes it a bit harder to engage in the next imperial adventure. It is very obvious that conscription is off the agenda because of the fear of social disruption that could easily have exceeded that of the anti Vietnam war movement. That is probably the thing the neocons feared most in their quest for world domination.

So at least some progress has been made.

 

[arabianights]

it will take some heat off the current government for their current policies and for that reason I oppose it.

 

[Crap Buddist]

Good ol jackie boy blocked an attempt to allow the public sight of the cabinets minutes/ disussion on A.G's legal advice on the Iraq Invasion. This doesn't help with the confidence behind the whiole episode of transparent government . I suppose the International Criminal Court could over ride the UK, I mean they have the "authority" to do so. But will that happen ?

Now the thing is , is that it is illegal for any of us to make tax payments to fund or aid and abet, war crimes. As according to the Criminal Court Act 2001, you would be guilty and liable of funding war crimes. based on the nurembergy principles that ALL are liable for their own actions, orders or not ...

Dunno what will happen from here on...... And whether the attorney will eventually file a complaint at the International criminal Court, if the UK seems to be blocking any investigations into these allegations of war crimes etc.....




Jack Straw's Commons statement 24th February 2009

The full text of Jack Straw's Commons statement announcing his decision to block the release of cabinet minutes relating to the invasion of Iraq

Jack Straw's Commons statement on his decision to block release of cabinet minutes | Politics | guardian.co.uk