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Casino's are run by Gangsters.
The markets are run by Banksters.
Same thing I suppose....
P
postman
I'm relying on the crookedness of US market makers to push the Dow up 70 points from her so I'm long and going out for the morning. Good luck all.
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from watching cnbc fast money show, it appears there is a concerted effort to drive the market lower.
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FTSE testing December 2013 lows 6420
out of about 10days the ftse has only once been able to make a higher high on daily, and even that appears to have been fiddled
out of about 10days the ftse has only once been able to make a higher high on daily, and even that appears to have been fiddled
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I have 1739.5 s&p as a level to watch, does that work for you SD?
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htw,
the market is so trashed it is totally detached from any pivot. but
I would work on the levels from 2hr or 1hr chart
but the overnight high 1742, works fine as hourly trigger and seeing if we can clear overhead resistance.
the bund/us 10 are not overly negative this morning for markets as they were yesterday.
longs will have to overcome obliterated technicals and media talking market down.
the shorts stops get run but market collapses back to making lower lows
think they want to tickle 15,000, would use dow march to locate round number they may work from.
ftse overnight high 6433, trying to break that now
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Nice summing up .. you should be on youtube
thanks,
i going out be back midday.
good trading to everyone
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s&p broken overnight highs 1742
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From Nadeem Walayat
Dear Reader
Bearish rhetoric is once more reaching extremes FOLLOWING the tumbling of stocks to new recent lows, a decline that many market commentators have once more latched onto as a consequence of Fed Tapering of QE or more accurately money printing, this despite the fact that the stocks soared in response to the last December Taper decision which was a surprise for the markets whilst the January Taper move was expected.
Whilst at the present time I remain firmly immersed in the analysis of the housing markets as I attempt to get my latest ebook in the exponential inflation mega-trend series completed this month, as I have plowed most of my wealth into the UK housing market since early 2012.
However, I do still retain a sizeable 18% of assets invested in the stock market, so like most out there it would be useful to know whether the current sell off is a buying opportunity or not or whether it is an harbinger of the dreaded trend change that I have yet to acknowledge as a termination of the bull market trend that I have backed for the past 5 years duration of this stocks stealth bull market that began in March 2009 (Stealth Bull Market Follows Stocks Bear Market Bottom at Dow 6,470 ).
So first I refer to my last analysis of the stock market of mid November 2013 which laid out my expectations for the Dow over the following 4 months into early March 2014 as excerpted below -
11 Nov 2013 - Stock Market Forecast 2014 Crash or Rally? Drone Wars and the Nuclear Apocalypse
I expect the Stock market to break above the upper channel of Dow 15,770 and be trading above 16,000 by late December. Furthermore my analysis suggests that despite a volatile January that will likely bring forward many bankrupt doom merchants, the stock market will likely continue its rally into March 2014, when it is highly probable that the Dow will be trading above 17,000!
Where does the stock market stand in its oscillation around the trend forecast?
The last close on the Dow was 15,699, which translates into a deviation from the forecast trend trajectory of 5.5%.
Does a 5.5% deviation lend me to panic as many are doing in their inevitable proclamations of a NEW bear market ?
NO, a 5.5% deviation does not even constitute a NORMAL correction, on its own it is another soon to be forgotten blip, just as was the one in October 2013, remember October ? Remember that blip that elicited intense bearish diatribe ?
UNDERSTAND THIS - THIS stocks stealth bull market is one of the GREATEST bull markets in HISTORY!
For now I'll let the bears crow loudly despite the fact that THIS corrective price action was seasonally EXPECTED, for soon they will be silenced, wiped out, CRUCIFIED until they once more emerge at depths of the NEXT stock market correction.
Where do the Bears Break Even?
Every other month we get a correction like this and once more the bears dutifully emerge to proclaim that this time the bear market has definitely started, however soon to go into hibernation once more when the next rally to new highs gets underway. However the question readers need to ask themselves when they hear such commentaries is that after FIVE YEARS, at what point would the perma-bears break even ? Dow 10,000 ? 6000? 4000? Yeah as low as that!
Okay, that's the re-cap and rhetoric out of the way, now for the analysis:
DOW FORECAST - Current under oscillation of 5.5%, against earlier over oscillation of 4% is NOT abnormal. Oscillations can easily extend to 10% around the trend which currently extends to as low as Dow 15,000.
ELLIOTT WAVES - My unorthodox interpretation of EWT implies that a significant correction is under way as the rally from the October lows comprised three distinct waves which implies it was corrective and also implies that as a worse case scenario the whole move could be re-traced i.e. back to Dow 14,800.
MACD - MACD is heavily oversold which means a stock market bounce is imminent, though it would not mark the end of decline, so its going to be a tough learning experience for bottom hunting traders.
TREND ANALYSIS - The Dow has broken 1 major support trendline and is bouncing off the second, however given the velocity of the decline to date the bounce looks temporary and thus the Dow looks set to break this trend line to target the third stronger trendline at 15,000, though that does not mean that is where the Dow will bottom i.e. it may only spike below Dow 15,550 to sucker more bearish sentiment.
SEASONAL ANALYSIS - A DOWN JANUARY is usually a bad indicator for the stock market for the whole of the year i.e. implies a down year. This means that it is going to be tough for the stock market to reclaim and HOLD its recent all time highs as many demented bears will be piling in on the short-side by jumping on the Down January band wagon. So 2014 is NOT going to be a re-run of 2013, and instead from what I can see through the mists of time that it is more likely to resemble an upwardly sloping trading range.
PRICE TARGETS - Upside targets are 15900, 16200, 16400, 16800, and 17000. Downside targets are 15,550 and 15,000. Which implies a lot of overhead resistance and less support, which again points to probability that we have not seen the low for the current move.
The current stock market correction looks set to attempt to revisit 15,000. How close it gets to 15,000 I can't tell, perhaps half way, just that the correction is not done to the downside. Following which the price chart implies that the Dow will enter an upwardly sloping trading range that would target a NEW all time high. However given the nature of trading ranges it is difficult to say how many swings it would take for such an outcome to occur, i.e. the last such trading range comprised 7 swings before breaking higher. This one could be quite brief and just comprise 2 swings as indicated by the chart, which could imply a New Dow high by early April, though that does not mean that the Dow would be able to hold the high as it could remain in the upward sloping range for some time which implies Sell in May and Go away as probable.
So to answer the question - Is the stocks bull market over ?
NO ! No sign whatsoever that this (what people decades from now will look back on as being the greatest bull market in history) bull market is anywhere near being over!
Again, remember that this is my quick interim analysis as first I need to get the ever expanding housing market ebook out of the way, and then I have plenty more analysis to complete that I am doing in parallel such as on the Scottish Independence Referendum (big mistake for Scots as they look set to vote to jump over the economic cliff) and then the frenzy that will soon surround the run-up to the UK General Election (which I expect the Conservatives to win outright), but I will come back to take an in-depth look at the stock market by mid April at the latest.
The Stocks Stealth Bull Market 2013 and Beyond EbookWhat I am going to do?
My existing stocks portfolio (18% of assets) is staying put so no panic here. My favourite sector for investing in 2013 - BIO-TECH (as stated in my last ebook of Feb 2013 - FREE DOWNLOAD) has soared, most holdings even after the current stock market sell off have tripled! So I want to buy more biotech stocks, about another 1% worth of assets if the general stock market indices take a further tumble, though its not certain that biotech stocks would follow suit, so to be blunt I would prefer MORE PANIC OUT THERE! So I CAN BUY MORE BIO-TECH for the long-run.
What do I fear ?
Yes, I am human, I do fear, and what I actually fear right now is that the stock market indices FALL HARD but the Biotech Stocks instead RISE! Which would mean having to consider BUYING at a higher price! and that would be painful!
Dear Reader
Bearish rhetoric is once more reaching extremes FOLLOWING the tumbling of stocks to new recent lows, a decline that many market commentators have once more latched onto as a consequence of Fed Tapering of QE or more accurately money printing, this despite the fact that the stocks soared in response to the last December Taper decision which was a surprise for the markets whilst the January Taper move was expected.
Whilst at the present time I remain firmly immersed in the analysis of the housing markets as I attempt to get my latest ebook in the exponential inflation mega-trend series completed this month, as I have plowed most of my wealth into the UK housing market since early 2012.
However, I do still retain a sizeable 18% of assets invested in the stock market, so like most out there it would be useful to know whether the current sell off is a buying opportunity or not or whether it is an harbinger of the dreaded trend change that I have yet to acknowledge as a termination of the bull market trend that I have backed for the past 5 years duration of this stocks stealth bull market that began in March 2009 (Stealth Bull Market Follows Stocks Bear Market Bottom at Dow 6,470 ).
So first I refer to my last analysis of the stock market of mid November 2013 which laid out my expectations for the Dow over the following 4 months into early March 2014 as excerpted below -
11 Nov 2013 - Stock Market Forecast 2014 Crash or Rally? Drone Wars and the Nuclear Apocalypse
I expect the Stock market to break above the upper channel of Dow 15,770 and be trading above 16,000 by late December. Furthermore my analysis suggests that despite a volatile January that will likely bring forward many bankrupt doom merchants, the stock market will likely continue its rally into March 2014, when it is highly probable that the Dow will be trading above 17,000!
Where does the stock market stand in its oscillation around the trend forecast?
The last close on the Dow was 15,699, which translates into a deviation from the forecast trend trajectory of 5.5%.
Does a 5.5% deviation lend me to panic as many are doing in their inevitable proclamations of a NEW bear market ?
NO, a 5.5% deviation does not even constitute a NORMAL correction, on its own it is another soon to be forgotten blip, just as was the one in October 2013, remember October ? Remember that blip that elicited intense bearish diatribe ?
UNDERSTAND THIS - THIS stocks stealth bull market is one of the GREATEST bull markets in HISTORY!
For now I'll let the bears crow loudly despite the fact that THIS corrective price action was seasonally EXPECTED, for soon they will be silenced, wiped out, CRUCIFIED until they once more emerge at depths of the NEXT stock market correction.
Where do the Bears Break Even?
Every other month we get a correction like this and once more the bears dutifully emerge to proclaim that this time the bear market has definitely started, however soon to go into hibernation once more when the next rally to new highs gets underway. However the question readers need to ask themselves when they hear such commentaries is that after FIVE YEARS, at what point would the perma-bears break even ? Dow 10,000 ? 6000? 4000? Yeah as low as that!
Okay, that's the re-cap and rhetoric out of the way, now for the analysis:
DOW FORECAST - Current under oscillation of 5.5%, against earlier over oscillation of 4% is NOT abnormal. Oscillations can easily extend to 10% around the trend which currently extends to as low as Dow 15,000.
ELLIOTT WAVES - My unorthodox interpretation of EWT implies that a significant correction is under way as the rally from the October lows comprised three distinct waves which implies it was corrective and also implies that as a worse case scenario the whole move could be re-traced i.e. back to Dow 14,800.
MACD - MACD is heavily oversold which means a stock market bounce is imminent, though it would not mark the end of decline, so its going to be a tough learning experience for bottom hunting traders.
TREND ANALYSIS - The Dow has broken 1 major support trendline and is bouncing off the second, however given the velocity of the decline to date the bounce looks temporary and thus the Dow looks set to break this trend line to target the third stronger trendline at 15,000, though that does not mean that is where the Dow will bottom i.e. it may only spike below Dow 15,550 to sucker more bearish sentiment.
SEASONAL ANALYSIS - A DOWN JANUARY is usually a bad indicator for the stock market for the whole of the year i.e. implies a down year. This means that it is going to be tough for the stock market to reclaim and HOLD its recent all time highs as many demented bears will be piling in on the short-side by jumping on the Down January band wagon. So 2014 is NOT going to be a re-run of 2013, and instead from what I can see through the mists of time that it is more likely to resemble an upwardly sloping trading range.
PRICE TARGETS - Upside targets are 15900, 16200, 16400, 16800, and 17000. Downside targets are 15,550 and 15,000. Which implies a lot of overhead resistance and less support, which again points to probability that we have not seen the low for the current move.
The current stock market correction looks set to attempt to revisit 15,000. How close it gets to 15,000 I can't tell, perhaps half way, just that the correction is not done to the downside. Following which the price chart implies that the Dow will enter an upwardly sloping trading range that would target a NEW all time high. However given the nature of trading ranges it is difficult to say how many swings it would take for such an outcome to occur, i.e. the last such trading range comprised 7 swings before breaking higher. This one could be quite brief and just comprise 2 swings as indicated by the chart, which could imply a New Dow high by early April, though that does not mean that the Dow would be able to hold the high as it could remain in the upward sloping range for some time which implies Sell in May and Go away as probable.
So to answer the question - Is the stocks bull market over ?
NO ! No sign whatsoever that this (what people decades from now will look back on as being the greatest bull market in history) bull market is anywhere near being over!
Again, remember that this is my quick interim analysis as first I need to get the ever expanding housing market ebook out of the way, and then I have plenty more analysis to complete that I am doing in parallel such as on the Scottish Independence Referendum (big mistake for Scots as they look set to vote to jump over the economic cliff) and then the frenzy that will soon surround the run-up to the UK General Election (which I expect the Conservatives to win outright), but I will come back to take an in-depth look at the stock market by mid April at the latest.
The Stocks Stealth Bull Market 2013 and Beyond EbookWhat I am going to do?
My existing stocks portfolio (18% of assets) is staying put so no panic here. My favourite sector for investing in 2013 - BIO-TECH (as stated in my last ebook of Feb 2013 - FREE DOWNLOAD) has soared, most holdings even after the current stock market sell off have tripled! So I want to buy more biotech stocks, about another 1% worth of assets if the general stock market indices take a further tumble, though its not certain that biotech stocks would follow suit, so to be blunt I would prefer MORE PANIC OUT THERE! So I CAN BUY MORE BIO-TECH for the long-run.
What do I fear ?
Yes, I am human, I do fear, and what I actually fear right now is that the stock market indices FALL HARD but the Biotech Stocks instead RISE! Which would mean having to consider BUYING at a higher price! and that would be painful!
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The ebook referred to above is available here
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/pdf-d/Stocks-Stealth-Bull-Market-2013-by-Nadeem-Walayat.pdf
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/pdf-d/Stocks-Stealth-Bull-Market-2013-by-Nadeem-Walayat.pdf
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mornin' guys
i'm a bit stumped. At Friday close (4:30pm I use) ftse stood at 6510 and dow 15745
at 10am this morning ftse was 6458 and dow 15415
that means whilst dow is down 330, ftse is only down 52 so it's traded massively strong and is well over 100 points more than it should be by reference to dow.
Seems me ftse anticipates a sharp dow rebound. If not, ftse has got some downside catching up to do.
Maybe if you favour long then dow looks the best bet, favour short and ftse is the one.
I'm short ftse @ 6457 and long dow @ 15416 on the basis that whichever way it goes ftse is going to trade weak by comparison.
i'm a bit stumped. At Friday close (4:30pm I use) ftse stood at 6510 and dow 15745
at 10am this morning ftse was 6458 and dow 15415
that means whilst dow is down 330, ftse is only down 52 so it's traded massively strong and is well over 100 points more than it should be by reference to dow.
Seems me ftse anticipates a sharp dow rebound. If not, ftse has got some downside catching up to do.
Maybe if you favour long then dow looks the best bet, favour short and ftse is the one.
I'm short ftse @ 6457 and long dow @ 15416 on the basis that whichever way it goes ftse is going to trade weak by comparison.
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Hi Barjon IG clients are 78% long dow and 65% long ftse
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market aint moved,
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has dow done a head and shoulders breakdown, targeting 14,800 ? nk/line 15,700
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what tf?
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daily chart about 3 or 4 months
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it is suprising ftse only down 27, there are some very big fallers in ftse, BP -1.7%
BLT down 1.4%
BLT down 1.4%
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Vod down 1.2% BP now down 2%
bad mojo.
bad mojo.
