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[BeginnerJoe]

I just made a live call on the ES thread due to me being amazing

No, I was looking for a vendor-side live call in this thread. I believed I was promised it. I won't let it go easily on those who let me down. They are going to pay until my satisfaction.

 

[The Leopard]

Please post up a picture of the queue of people going to your office. I find it strange you have no time to post up a single line of trade call during office hours, but you have plenty of time to entertain hordes of visitors coming to you within the same hours. Unless you can provide a reasonable explanation, I would have to conclude all the stuff you said are just a pile of camel dung that maroo would be proud off.

No, I was looking for a vendor-side live call in this thread. I believed I was promised it. I won't let it go easily on those who let me down. They are going to pay until my satisfaction.

:clap:

 

[rsh01]

The one from last night on selling the EUR on 50% retrace doesn't quite count in my book

The eu call is the standard continuation retest of a significant level, where support becomes resistance. The 50% bit is obv related to the eliptical orbits of protons around neutrons, which therefore means its a banker.

 

[neil]

Actually, Walter Mitty is a fantasist rather than a liar. But I only called you Walter after you started slinging insults about.

It still doesn't make any sense for you to be helping complete strangers given your earlier comment.

But then, so much of what you write doesn't make sense.

Yes - the following would support your assertion that Mitty = fantasist:

Who is Walter Mitty? | Politics | MediaGuardian

...................."Used as a noun, the phrase Walter Mitty is defined in the Oxford English Dictionary as "referring to a person who fantasises about a life much more exciting and glamorous than their own".

 

[barjon]

Hey ho - what a shame that what was an interesting and intelligent discussion - albeit a bit off the topic of the tread - has degenerated again into the usual handbag swinging. Such is life I 'spose

 

[the hare]

Hey ho - what a shame that what was an interesting and intelligent discussion - albeit a bit off the topic of the tread - has degenerated again into the usual handbag swinging. Such is life I 'spose

Its your own fault for letting vendor vermin abuse the forum. Decent people who understand wots wot are inevitably going to stick the boot in.

 

[timsk]

Its your own fault for letting vendor vermin abuse the forum. Decent people who understand wots wot are inevitably going to stick the boot in.

You still 'ere!
Your comment is both unfair and untrue. The Mods do a great job in upholding the site guidelines and, as far as I can see, they have not allowed any 'vendor vermin' to abuse this thread. On the contrary, it appears to me that most of the abuse seems to be coming from the vendor-bashing lobby. barjon's comments are 100% spot on, IMO.

As for decent people who understand wots wot sticking the boot in - that depends on your definition of decent. My definition doesn't include 'sticking the boot in' - whereas yours does, obviously. As for understanding 'wots wot', very few of them ever do. For example, most (but not all) of the anti-vendor lobby are incapable of accepting that other people may have and, most importantly are entitled to, an opinion that differs to theirs. That's the first step in understanding the principle of decent, open and civilized debate on a public forum such as this. Anyone who is unable or unwilling to respect someone else's views and thinks they're entitled 'to stick the boot in' is gravely mistaken and should find another forum to troll - they're not welcome here.
Tim.

 

[ChocolateDigestive]

Its your own fault for letting vendor vermin abuse the forum. Decent people who understand wots wot are inevitably going to stick the boot in.

i like that phrase Vendor Vermin or VV for short!

 

[pboyles]

You still

For example, most (but not all) of the anti-vendor lobby are incapable of accepting that other people may have and, most importantly are entitled to, an opinion that differs to theirs. That's the first step in understanding the principle of decent, open and civilized debate on a public forum such as this. Anyone who is unable or unwilling to respect someone else's views and thinks they're entitled 'to stick the boot in' is gravely mistaken and should find another forum to troll - they're not welcome here.
Tim.

Which vendor do you think we were wrong about? I don't recall one that turned out to be genuine. When did 'just give them a chance to prove themselves' ever work?

 

[the hare]

Tim, you have to realize that life does not always work the way we would like it to. I am simply pointing out the realities of the situation. You can stick your head in the sand and ignore reality, or you can accept it.

I suppose its a bit like overcoming a drug or alcohol addiction, the first step is acknowledging that you have a problem. If you read t2w on a daily basis as I and many others who are commenting do, you'll see that the evidence is there if you want to read it.

The situation is win win from my perspective, as much as Id like to see an improvement in standards of debate, I also appreciate the lulz, and would be sad to see it go.

 

[DionysusToast]

I don't have time to read through all the posts. For those who did, can you tell me if there was a live trade call ? The one from last night on selling the EUR on 50% retrace doesn't quite count in my book.

If there hasn't been a call, then in my capacity as the official statements checker, I have to declare the vendor side as the looser.

No live calls but if this software is so good, I am sure there will be a free trial... :whistling :whistling :whistling

 

[timsk]

Which vendor do you think we were wrong about? I don't recall one that turned out to be genuine. When did 'just give them a chance to prove themselves' ever work?

Hi pb,
My post isn't about vendors as such, it's about barjon's post and the hare's response to it.

In answer to your question, you specialise in focusing on certain types of vendors who are a bit dodgy at best and total frauds at worst. So, I can understand you're not aware of the good guys - but they do exist. Taring all vendors universally with the same brush isn't helpful as many traders of all experience and ability will often look to others for coaching. Even the hare has said he's open minded to doing this in principle. So, what would be helpful would be to provide ways in which less savvy and experienced traders are able to distinguish between the rogues and genuine people who can deliver what they promise. Coming full circle back to barjon's post - as he rightly said - there was some interesting debate taking place along these very lines; debate which has sadly given way to hand bag swinging.
Tim.

 

[the hare]

In answer to your question, you specialise in focusing on certain types of vendors who are a bit dodgy at best and total frauds at worst. So, I can understand you're not aware of the good guys - but they do exist.

Could you give an example of one of the good guys ?

Obviously I appreciate that any examples you are kind enough to provide are personal opinions and do not necessarily reflect the views of t2w. I wont use them as a stick to beat anyone with at a future date.

 

[BeginnerJoe]

No live calls

I didn't expect any, and I was giving people rope to play. But in reality it was very much a noose - no not loose. I do live calls occasionally and I know what's on the line and how difficult it would be. I doubt any vendor scum would have the balls.

I am normally vendor friendly because I believe everyone deserves to make a living. But I will turn hostile if they abuse my amiability by making explicit claims they have no way to full fill.

 

[rsh01]

No live calls but if this software is so good, I am sure there will be a free trial... :whistling :whistling :whistling

As that andy guy said there are scanners available for free so why pay at all. The IG one looks bit crap though which is one he mentioned.

EDIT: like to add that VV looks more like a big W, which is quite apt

 

[the hare]

I do live calls occasionally and I know what's on the line and how difficult it would be. I doubt any vendor scum would have the balls..

yeah, you need brass balls to make live calls (and its rumored amongst the trading community that Mike Baghdady has balls of titanium)

Actually its a very sad indictment of the quality of most vendors that they cant even pull of such a simple trick. It used to be a commonplace technique amongst traders who tried, failed and turned to the dark-side

These days most VV's don't even have that experience to fall back on. Wallstreet 1928 was the last to give it a try, but he was a bit too blatant for his own good.

 

[ZEN archer]

Some vendors do live trading. I haven't subscribed to the service, but one vendor keeps sending me emails with their views and market analysis and records of some live trades (some winning and some losing).

I've met them some time ago at one of the shows and they seemed like nice guys. Also, I was invited few times to attend their live trading room for few days where they did live trades (I was following closely and they didn't use delayed charts tricks)

 

[BeginnerJoe]

Some vendors do live trading. I haven't subscribed to the service, but one vendor keeps sending me emails with their views and market analysis and records of some live trades (some winning and some losing).

I've met them some time ago at one of the shows and they seemed like nice guys. Also, I was invited few times to attend their live trading room for few days where they did live trades (I was following closely and they didn't use delayed charts tricks)

Then share the live calls.

 

[ZEN archer]

Then share the live calls.

I've just attended the live room few times for free - I'm not subscribed.

 

[the hare]

Then share the live calls.

It wouldn't help you in the slightest, but I'll give you you a tiny clue.

The following statement was made by the CEO of one of the larger retail forex brokerages regarding an analysis of their customers trades taken during 2010. To put things into perspective the majority of their customers lost money that year (I wont give you figures cos you are probably still in denial)

"If the spread had been zero on all their trades, then all our customers combined would have realized profits in the tens of millions."

So what does that tell you about the size of the edge required to flip from a loser (looser) to a winner ?

Now do you understand why "live calls" are a complete and utter waste of time ?