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And I thought it was because the ballooning population was using a finite resource faster than i was being processed
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And I thought it was because the ballooning population was using a finite resource faster than i was being processed
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Man, you have been spoon-fed controlled establishment media lies and propaganda for far too long!
Turn off your television
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The Myth Of Peak Oil
The Myth Of Peak Oil
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | October 12 2005
Peak oil is a scam designed to create artificial scarcity and jack up prices while giving the state an excuse to invade our lives and order us to sacrifice our hard-earned living standards.
Publicly available CFR and Club of Rome strategy manuals from 30 years ago say that a global government needs to control the world population through neo-feudalism by creating artificial scarcity. Now that the social architects have de-industrialized the United States, they are going to blame our economic disintegration on lack of energy supplies.
Globalization is all about consolidation. Now that the world economy has become so centralized through the Globalists operations, they are going to continue to consolidate and blame it on the West's "evil" overconsumption of fossil fuels, while at the same time blocking the development and integration of renewable clean technologies.
In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed.
Peak oil is a theory advanced by the elite, by the oil industry, by the very people that you would think peak oil would harm, unless it was a cover for another agenda. Which from the evidence of artificial scarcity being deliberately created, the reasons for doing so and who benefits, it’s clear that peak oil is a myth and it should be exposed for what it is. Another excuse for the Globalists to seize more control over our lives and sacrifice more American sovereignty in the meantime.
The lies of artificial scarcity
The crux of the issue is that if oil was plentiful in areas in which we are being told by the government and the oil companies that it is not, then we have clear evidence that artificial scarcity is being simulated in order to drive forward a myriad of other agendas. And we have concrete examples of where this has happened.
Three separate internal confidential memos from Mobil, Chevron and Texaco have been obtained by The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights.
These memos outline a deliberate agenda to gouge prices and create artificial scarcity by limiting capacities of and outright closing oil refineries. This was a nationwide lobbying effort led by the American Petroleum Institute to encourage refineries to do this.
An internal Chevron memo states; "A senior energy analyst at the recent API convention warned that if the US petroleum industry doesn't reduce its refining capacity it will never see any substantial increase in refinery margins."
The Memos make clear that blockages in refining capacity and opening new refineries did not come from environmental organizations, as the oil industry claimed, but via a deliberate policy of limitation and price gouging at the behest of the oil industry itself.
The mystery of Eugene Island 330 and self-renewing oil supplies
Eugene Island is an oil field in the gulf of Mexico, 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana. It was discovered in 1973 and began producing 15,000 barrels of oil a day which then slowed to about 4,000 barrels in 1989.
But then for no logical reason whatsoever, production spiked back up to 13,000 barrels a day.
What the researchers found when they analyzed the oil field with time lapse 3-D seismic imaging is that there was an unexplained deep fault in the bottom corner of the computer scan, which showed oil gushing in from a previously unknown deep source and migrating up through the rock to replenish the existing supply.
Furthermore, the analysis of the oil now being produced at Eugene Island shows that its age is geologically different from the oil produced there after the refinery first opened. Suggesting strongly that it is now emerging from a different, unexplained source.
The last estimates of probable reserves shot up from 60 million barrels to 400 million barrels.
Both the scientists and geologists from the big oil companies have seen the evidence and admitted that the Eugene Island oil field is refilling itself.
This completely contradicts peak oil theory and with technology improving at an accelerating pace it seems obvious that there are more Eugene Islands out there waiting to be discovered. So the scientific community needs to embrace these possibilities and lobby for funding into finding more of these deep source replenishing oilfields.
The existence of self-renewing oil fields shatters the peak oil myth. If oil is a naturally replenishing inorganic substance then how can it possibly run out?
The future of oil
This year in particular we have seen a strong hike in oil prices and are being told to simply get used to it because this is the way it is going to be. In the wake of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita gas prices have shot up amid claims of vast energy shortages. Americans are being asked to turn off lights, change thermostat settings, drive slower, insulate homes and take other steps. Meanwhile the oil companies continue to make record profits.
Flying in the face of the so called peak oil crisis are the facts. If we are running out of oil so quickly then why are reserves being continually increased and production skyrocketing?
In the 1980s OPEC decided to switch to a quota production system based on the size of reserves. The larger the reserves a country said it had the more it could pump.
Earlier this year Saudi Arabia reportedly increased its crude reserves by around 200 billion barrels. Saudi oil Is secure and plentiful, say officials.
“These huge reserves enable the Kingdom to remain a major oil producer for between 70 and 100 years, even if it raises its production capacity to 15 million barrels per day, which may well happen during the next 15 years,”
Is this the normal course of behavior if we are currently at the peak for oil production? The answer is no, it's the normal course of action for increasing production.
There have also been reports that Russia has vastly increased its reserves even beyond those of Saudi Arabia. Why would they do this if they believed there would be no more oil to get hold of? It seems clear that Russia is ready for unlimited future production of oil.
There is a clear contradiction between the peak oil theory and the continual increase in oil reserves and production.
New untapped oil sources are being discovered everywhere on earth. The notion that there are somehow only a few sources that the West is trying to monopolize is a complete myth, promulgated by those raking in the massive profits. After all how do you make huge profits from something available in abundance?
A Wall Street Journal article by Peter Huber and Mark Mills describes how the price of oil remains high because the cost of oil remains so low. We are not dependent on the middle east for oil because the world's supplies are diminishing, it is because it is more profitable to tap middle east supplies. Thus the myth of peak oil is needed in order to silence the call for tapping the planet's other plentiful reserves.
Richard Branson has even stated his intention to set up his own refinery because the price of oil is artificially being kept high whilst new sources are not being explored and new refineries not being built.
"Opec is effectively an illegal cartel that can meet happily, nobody takes them to court," Branson has said. "They collude to keep prices high."
So if more refineries were built and different resources tapped, the oil prices would come down and the illegal cartel OPEC would see profits diminish. It is no wonder then that the argument for peak oil is so appealing to OPEC. If no one invests to build refineries because they don't believe there is enough oil, then who benefits? OPEC and the oil elites of course.
It seems that every time there is some kind of energy crisis, OPEC INCREASES production. The remarkable thing about this is that they always state that they are doing it to ease prices, yet prices always shoot up because they promulgate the myth that they are putting some of their last reserves into the market. Analysts seem confused and always state that they don't believe upping production will cut prices.
In a recent report the International Monetary Fund projected that global demand for oil by 2030 would reach 139 million barrels a day, a 65 percent increase.
"We should expect to live with high and volatile oil prices," said Raghuram Rajan, the IMF's chief economist. "In short, it's going to be a rocky road going forward."
Yet independent analysts and even some within OPEC seem to believe that the demand for oil is diminishing. Why the contradiction?
The peak oil and demand myth is peddled by the establishment-run fake left activist groups, OPEC and globalist arms such as the IMF.
Rolling Stone magazine even carried an article in its April issue heavily biased towards making people believe the peak oil lie.
The Scientific evidence also flies in the face of the peak oil theory. Scientific research dating back over a hundred years, more recently updated in a Scientific Paper Published In 'Energia' suggests that oil is abiotic, not the product of long decayed biological matter. Oil, for better or for worse, is not a non-renewable resource. It, like coal, and natural gas, replenishes from sources within the mantle of earth.
No coincidence then that the Russians, who pioneered this research have pumped expenditure into deep underground oil excavation.
We have previously scientifically exposed the scam behind peak oil. Here is a 1 hour+ audio clip featuring Alex Jones' comments on peak oil and then the analysis of respected scientific commentator Dr. Nick Begich who presents evidence to suggest the idea of Peak oil is artificial.
A dangerous fallout precedent being set is that people on both the left and right believe wars are being fought in order to tap the last reserves of oil on the planet. The "coalition of the willing", whoever they may be for any given war, will not pay particular attention to refuting this claim because it allows them a reason to start and continue said war.
Even though many will see it as immoral, many will subconsciously attach it as a reason for the war. In reality the war is purely for profit, power and control, oil can be a part of that, but only if the peak oil claim is upheld.
If we continue to let the corrupt elite tell us we are wholly dependent on oil, we may reach a twisted situation whereby they can justify starvation and mass global poverty, perhaps even depopulation, even within the western world due to the fact that our energy supplies are finished.
Peak oil is just another weapon the globalists have in their arsenal to move towards a new world order where the elite get richer and everyone else falls into line.
The Myth Of Peak Oil
Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | October 12 2005
Peak oil is a scam designed to create artificial scarcity and jack up prices while giving the state an excuse to invade our lives and order us to sacrifice our hard-earned living standards.
Publicly available CFR and Club of Rome strategy manuals from 30 years ago say that a global government needs to control the world population through neo-feudalism by creating artificial scarcity. Now that the social architects have de-industrialized the United States, they are going to blame our economic disintegration on lack of energy supplies.
Globalization is all about consolidation. Now that the world economy has become so centralized through the Globalists operations, they are going to continue to consolidate and blame it on the West's "evil" overconsumption of fossil fuels, while at the same time blocking the development and integration of renewable clean technologies.
In other words, Peak oil is a scam to create artificial scarcity and drive prices up. Meanwhile, alternative fuel technologies which have been around for decades are intentionally suppressed.
Peak oil is a theory advanced by the elite, by the oil industry, by the very people that you would think peak oil would harm, unless it was a cover for another agenda. Which from the evidence of artificial scarcity being deliberately created, the reasons for doing so and who benefits, it’s clear that peak oil is a myth and it should be exposed for what it is. Another excuse for the Globalists to seize more control over our lives and sacrifice more American sovereignty in the meantime.
The lies of artificial scarcity
The crux of the issue is that if oil was plentiful in areas in which we are being told by the government and the oil companies that it is not, then we have clear evidence that artificial scarcity is being simulated in order to drive forward a myriad of other agendas. And we have concrete examples of where this has happened.
Three separate internal confidential memos from Mobil, Chevron and Texaco have been obtained by The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights.
These memos outline a deliberate agenda to gouge prices and create artificial scarcity by limiting capacities of and outright closing oil refineries. This was a nationwide lobbying effort led by the American Petroleum Institute to encourage refineries to do this.
An internal Chevron memo states; "A senior energy analyst at the recent API convention warned that if the US petroleum industry doesn't reduce its refining capacity it will never see any substantial increase in refinery margins."
The Memos make clear that blockages in refining capacity and opening new refineries did not come from environmental organizations, as the oil industry claimed, but via a deliberate policy of limitation and price gouging at the behest of the oil industry itself.
The mystery of Eugene Island 330 and self-renewing oil supplies
Eugene Island is an oil field in the gulf of Mexico, 80 miles off the coast of Louisiana. It was discovered in 1973 and began producing 15,000 barrels of oil a day which then slowed to about 4,000 barrels in 1989.
But then for no logical reason whatsoever, production spiked back up to 13,000 barrels a day.
What the researchers found when they analyzed the oil field with time lapse 3-D seismic imaging is that there was an unexplained deep fault in the bottom corner of the computer scan, which showed oil gushing in from a previously unknown deep source and migrating up through the rock to replenish the existing supply.
Furthermore, the analysis of the oil now being produced at Eugene Island shows that its age is geologically different from the oil produced there after the refinery first opened. Suggesting strongly that it is now emerging from a different, unexplained source.
The last estimates of probable reserves shot up from 60 million barrels to 400 million barrels.
Both the scientists and geologists from the big oil companies have seen the evidence and admitted that the Eugene Island oil field is refilling itself.
This completely contradicts peak oil theory and with technology improving at an accelerating pace it seems obvious that there are more Eugene Islands out there waiting to be discovered. So the scientific community needs to embrace these possibilities and lobby for funding into finding more of these deep source replenishing oilfields.
The existence of self-renewing oil fields shatters the peak oil myth. If oil is a naturally replenishing inorganic substance then how can it possibly run out?
The future of oil
This year in particular we have seen a strong hike in oil prices and are being told to simply get used to it because this is the way it is going to be. In the wake of Hurricanes Katrina and Rita gas prices have shot up amid claims of vast energy shortages. Americans are being asked to turn off lights, change thermostat settings, drive slower, insulate homes and take other steps. Meanwhile the oil companies continue to make record profits.
Flying in the face of the so called peak oil crisis are the facts. If we are running out of oil so quickly then why are reserves being continually increased and production skyrocketing?
In the 1980s OPEC decided to switch to a quota production system based on the size of reserves. The larger the reserves a country said it had the more it could pump.
Earlier this year Saudi Arabia reportedly increased its crude reserves by around 200 billion barrels. Saudi oil Is secure and plentiful, say officials.
“These huge reserves enable the Kingdom to remain a major oil producer for between 70 and 100 years, even if it raises its production capacity to 15 million barrels per day, which may well happen during the next 15 years,”
Is this the normal course of behavior if we are currently at the peak for oil production? The answer is no, it's the normal course of action for increasing production.
There have also been reports that Russia has vastly increased its reserves even beyond those of Saudi Arabia. Why would they do this if they believed there would be no more oil to get hold of? It seems clear that Russia is ready for unlimited future production of oil.
There is a clear contradiction between the peak oil theory and the continual increase in oil reserves and production.
New untapped oil sources are being discovered everywhere on earth. The notion that there are somehow only a few sources that the West is trying to monopolize is a complete myth, promulgated by those raking in the massive profits. After all how do you make huge profits from something available in abundance?
A Wall Street Journal article by Peter Huber and Mark Mills describes how the price of oil remains high because the cost of oil remains so low. We are not dependent on the middle east for oil because the world's supplies are diminishing, it is because it is more profitable to tap middle east supplies. Thus the myth of peak oil is needed in order to silence the call for tapping the planet's other plentiful reserves.
Richard Branson has even stated his intention to set up his own refinery because the price of oil is artificially being kept high whilst new sources are not being explored and new refineries not being built.
"Opec is effectively an illegal cartel that can meet happily, nobody takes them to court," Branson has said. "They collude to keep prices high."
So if more refineries were built and different resources tapped, the oil prices would come down and the illegal cartel OPEC would see profits diminish. It is no wonder then that the argument for peak oil is so appealing to OPEC. If no one invests to build refineries because they don't believe there is enough oil, then who benefits? OPEC and the oil elites of course.
It seems that every time there is some kind of energy crisis, OPEC INCREASES production. The remarkable thing about this is that they always state that they are doing it to ease prices, yet prices always shoot up because they promulgate the myth that they are putting some of their last reserves into the market. Analysts seem confused and always state that they don't believe upping production will cut prices.
In a recent report the International Monetary Fund projected that global demand for oil by 2030 would reach 139 million barrels a day, a 65 percent increase.
"We should expect to live with high and volatile oil prices," said Raghuram Rajan, the IMF's chief economist. "In short, it's going to be a rocky road going forward."
Yet independent analysts and even some within OPEC seem to believe that the demand for oil is diminishing. Why the contradiction?
The peak oil and demand myth is peddled by the establishment-run fake left activist groups, OPEC and globalist arms such as the IMF.
Rolling Stone magazine even carried an article in its April issue heavily biased towards making people believe the peak oil lie.
The Scientific evidence also flies in the face of the peak oil theory. Scientific research dating back over a hundred years, more recently updated in a Scientific Paper Published In 'Energia' suggests that oil is abiotic, not the product of long decayed biological matter. Oil, for better or for worse, is not a non-renewable resource. It, like coal, and natural gas, replenishes from sources within the mantle of earth.
No coincidence then that the Russians, who pioneered this research have pumped expenditure into deep underground oil excavation.
We have previously scientifically exposed the scam behind peak oil. Here is a 1 hour+ audio clip featuring Alex Jones' comments on peak oil and then the analysis of respected scientific commentator Dr. Nick Begich who presents evidence to suggest the idea of Peak oil is artificial.
A dangerous fallout precedent being set is that people on both the left and right believe wars are being fought in order to tap the last reserves of oil on the planet. The "coalition of the willing", whoever they may be for any given war, will not pay particular attention to refuting this claim because it allows them a reason to start and continue said war.
Even though many will see it as immoral, many will subconsciously attach it as a reason for the war. In reality the war is purely for profit, power and control, oil can be a part of that, but only if the peak oil claim is upheld.
If we continue to let the corrupt elite tell us we are wholly dependent on oil, we may reach a twisted situation whereby they can justify starvation and mass global poverty, perhaps even depopulation, even within the western world due to the fact that our energy supplies are finished.
Peak oil is just another weapon the globalists have in their arsenal to move towards a new world order where the elite get richer and everyone else falls into line.
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Man, you have been spoon-fed controlled establishment media lies and propaganda for far too long!
Turn off your television
did prisonplanet tel you to say that?
J - i've told you before I'm tool lazy to read long spiel like that you've attached. Before I get to the end, someone will have pasted a link to counter it.
Humour me would you? Is there a finite supply of oil? Will the demand soar due to population growth and £1,000 cars in India / China?
Edit - I've just read the snippet that says it's really being produced all the time. I'll box in with green men, ghosts and religion.
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did prisonplanet tel you to say that?
J - i've told you before I'm tool lazy to read long spiel like that you've attached. Before I get to the end, someone will have pasted a link to counter it.
Humour me would you? Is there a finite supply of oil? Will the demand soar due to population growth and £1,000 cars in India / China?
UTB
1. I could chose articles from sources other than prisonplanet. I just happen to think they are the most professional in terms of using wide-ranging sources, referencing their sources, deconstructing the lies and misinformation withh official documents etc. that they will provide links to etc.
2. You might argue that i copy & paste too much. Sadly, i don't have the time, to regurgitate their article into my own words, and then provide all the links etc. In any case what would be the point.
3. If you want to know the facts, stop being a lazy tw*t and read the article
.4. If you can't be arsed reading the articles etc. why bother replying to the posts/thread
:?:.If you were a member of a book club, and were given a homework assignment to - lets say - read a book based on a non-fictional event like the JFK assasination before the next class, but you only read the 1st chapter, lost interest, and decided your time was better spent smoking fags, eating kebabs and watching football, would you still turn up at the next class and readily offer your opinion as to what you thought the book was about, and how it should be interpreted etc.?
Me personally, I'd either a)not attend the class until i'd finished the book, b) attend the class and keep quiet, hoping i wasn't asked any questions about the book c) stop going to the class until they'd moved on from JFK, d) attend the class, briefly explain i'd not read the book and that there's no point in asking me anything about the book, but that you are happy to quietly sit in and listen to the discussion anyway, and you may read the book later.
I certainly wouldn't go along to the book club and say, well, I'm too lazy to read the book, but I'll tell you what i think happened to JFK anyway, but just for the sake of it, can you sum up what it said in the book.
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Pickens has said quite clearly that oil is a finite product that could easily reach $200 per barrel next year and that it will, not yet, but eventually, reach $800.
He said that he is not drilling for more oil but is investing in wind power.
He said the West is at war with those that have the oil, Not with guns but with energy as the main armament. We, either, get something else, quick, or we go down the pan economically.
Unfriendly noises can be heard from all over, but three countries are loudest. Iran, Venezuela and Russia.
He said that he is not drilling for more oil but is investing in wind power.
He said the West is at war with those that have the oil, Not with guns but with energy as the main armament. We, either, get something else, quick, or we go down the pan economically.
Unfriendly noises can be heard from all over, but three countries are loudest. Iran, Venezuela and Russia.
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Do you, really, believe that? I'm no Pickens but I can see the logic in all of that.
We're running out, mate. The signs are all there to see but
There is no one blinder than he who will not see. Forget the refinery shortage. That's a stop gap problem.
Split
We're running out, mate. The signs are all there to see but
There is no one blinder than he who will not see. Forget the refinery shortage. That's a stop gap problem.
Split
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split - read my previous comments - It was Jtrader's leg I was pulling.
As sure as the sun will rise in the morning, we will run out of oil.
(unless the BBC says otherwise
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split - read my previous comments - It was Jtrader's leg I was pulling.
As sure as the sun will rise in the morning, we will run out of oil.
(unless the BBC says otherwise
UTB
That we agree is the important thing. Apart from the BBC, of course. A wonderful organisation. The envy of the world. If it wasn't for the Beeb, birks like me wouldn't get half the news that I base my posts on. :whistling
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I might be missing your point - are you posting links to anything that Government's say that has been countered by someone else?
Rest assured, I think we all agree that Governments both get it wrong and spin / lie.
It doesn't mean we're sectretly being controlled by martians
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I might be missing your point - are you posting links to anything that Government's say that has been countered by someone else?
Rest assured, I think we all agree that Governments both get it wrong and spin / lie.
It doesn't mean we're sectretly being controlled by martians
UTB
As i said on the other thread the blades, if you lack the simple skills to perceive and interpret how my posts, and any articles i include, not only relate to the topic being discussed, but also to see how they inter-connect/are inter-related within the topic under discussion as a whole, perhaps you are a bit out of your depth trying to grasp the subject matter in the first place.
Of course, as i have said previously, actually reading the articles helps.
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to be honest, your posts are both too lengthy and abstract for me to follow. It's the material of fantasists that is easily countered - and spending time following it would simply be a number of minutes of my life I'll never get back.
I've clearly rattled you cage when I only intended to pull your leg - for that I'm sorry.
I think you need to create another poll
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Interesting thoughts and posts on Peak Oil, JTrader.
If oil was a renewable resource, then a study should be done to replicate the process in the laboratory to verify it. Even if it was done roughly, it could prove whether oil could be created in a matter of days or weeks rather than millions of years.
Must admit, have always been curious why Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen cant simply be mixed in a lab to create whatever chemical combo we wanted. I mean, we can create alcohol by fermenting sugars, cant we? And alcohol can be used to run engines.
But, I think its the ENERGY content of the bonds that makes oil so valuable. (and the energy required to make oil artificially may be greater than the energy content of the artificail oil; something to do with entropy, perhaps)
If it could be replicated, then the issue of scale is next challenge.
I would be more impressed by links to scientific journals where the theory of oil being renewable was discussed (and attempts to prove it; goodness sake, thats a NOBEL prize-winning research, isnt it?) rather than New World Order stuff.
Being pedantic, just because there are "more" reserves being found, doesnt mean oil is replenishing itself. It means, maybe, that we are looking in places we didnt look before.
You dont use a titchy telescope and say there are "many hundreds" of stars. Then, using a more powerful telescope, say there are "many thousands" of stars, therefore stars are replenishing themselves?
Similarly, the solar system doesnt replenish itself of planets because we have discovered the outer planets.
There appears to be more oil/stars/planets because we have become better at building instruments at detecting, and better equipment to exploit the oil reserves that may, even a few decades ago, been beyond our technological grasp.
Good stuff, though, JTrader.
My perspective, admittedly small-minded focus, is to say, if oil is replenishable, where are the scientists chomping at the bit to prove it in a lab?
sorry to be practical.
EDIT: I tend not to be too concerned about politics and agendas, but focus on practicalities of physics, chemistry, maths and engineering for my conclusions as to what can be done or cannot be done.
If oil was a renewable resource, then a study should be done to replicate the process in the laboratory to verify it. Even if it was done roughly, it could prove whether oil could be created in a matter of days or weeks rather than millions of years.
Must admit, have always been curious why Carbon, Hydrogen and Oxygen cant simply be mixed in a lab to create whatever chemical combo we wanted. I mean, we can create alcohol by fermenting sugars, cant we? And alcohol can be used to run engines.
But, I think its the ENERGY content of the bonds that makes oil so valuable. (and the energy required to make oil artificially may be greater than the energy content of the artificail oil; something to do with entropy, perhaps)
If it could be replicated, then the issue of scale is next challenge.
I would be more impressed by links to scientific journals where the theory of oil being renewable was discussed (and attempts to prove it; goodness sake, thats a NOBEL prize-winning research, isnt it?) rather than New World Order stuff.
Being pedantic, just because there are "more" reserves being found, doesnt mean oil is replenishing itself. It means, maybe, that we are looking in places we didnt look before.
You dont use a titchy telescope and say there are "many hundreds" of stars. Then, using a more powerful telescope, say there are "many thousands" of stars, therefore stars are replenishing themselves?
Similarly, the solar system doesnt replenish itself of planets because we have discovered the outer planets.
There appears to be more oil/stars/planets because we have become better at building instruments at detecting, and better equipment to exploit the oil reserves that may, even a few decades ago, been beyond our technological grasp.
Good stuff, though, JTrader.
My perspective, admittedly small-minded focus, is to say, if oil is replenishable, where are the scientists chomping at the bit to prove it in a lab?
sorry to be practical.
EDIT: I tend not to be too concerned about politics and agendas, but focus on practicalities of physics, chemistry, maths and engineering for my conclusions as to what can be done or cannot be done.
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As you suggest - we could make oil - but in the end the energy you get out wold have to be put it. Similar with Hydrogen, it will only be produced in plentifull supply by cracking water - and burning it will produce.......water. So the energy most come from elsewhere.
Nuclear is the only option. Unless Jtrader is correct.
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I agree although the world supply of the raw materials for this is also running out. The French and Russians saw this coming over 20 years ago and have invested heavily in this area. Successive UK governments did nothing and now we are being held to ransom by foreign energy companies.
I also agree that the demand by developing nations has had a big impact on oil. Whenever key resources become scarce it always results in war and in my view we are very likely to see a lot more of this especially as the world population is expected to rise by 50% in the next 20 years.
I can also see a scenario where the whole of the western world joins forces to invade and completely take over Iran. This may seem extreme but when westernised nations see the possibility of capitalism collapsing which is eminently possible with very high oil prices then they could believe that they have no choice but to take extreme measures to ensure its continuance.
Paul
