The Next US President

[sminicooper]

Donald's fake news....:whistling

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

If this stuff turns out to be true then life's going to get very interesting.

But the forces of propaganda/deception/doublethink/manipulation/disinformation and international politics are always working undercover in the background. What do us ordinary peasant-mortals know?

 

[Pat494]

If this stuff turns out to be true then life's going to get very interesting.

But the forces of propaganda/deception/doublethink/manipulation/disinformation and international politics are always working undercover in the background. What do us ordinary peasant-mortals know?

If it is about politicians a useful and usually right mode is " think the worst and you will probably be right ". If Trump is Moscow's puppet and it is if then things could be really bad.

 

[mike.]

Trump will never backdown, or resign...he has had so many law suits filed against him over the years he is hardened to it.... Once you admit guilt then its game over.......just deny,deny,deny and ridicule the evidence, he knows the script.

 

[sminicooper]

Trump will never backdown, or resign...he has had so many law suits filed against him over the years he is hardened to it.... Once you admit guilt then its game over.......just deny,deny,deny and ridicule the evidence, he knows the script.

And plenty of (ex) British politicians know all about that!

 

[dbphoenix]

If it is about politicians a useful and usually right mode is " think the worst and you will probably be right ". If Trump is Moscow's puppet and it is if then things could be really bad.

And of course there's Farage, LePen, etc

 

[Atilla]

DT strategy - Just blame everyone else.

Blame the intention and agenda behind the news.

Divert, distort, disinform, dilute, deflect.


Feck it just blame everyone else that they are out to get you coz your sooo goood and the establishment doesn't want you to drain the swamp.

 

[Signalcalc]

Donald's fake news....:whistling



https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-Intelligence-Allegations.html

I'm still not seeing anything to validate the provenance of the document or the material presented therein, anyone could have written it?

 

[mike.]

I'm still not seeing anything to validate the provenance of the document or the material presented therein, anyone could have written it?

In order to get it validated, one would have to commit to a full and thorough investigation, this its self would be thwarted by corruption and espionage at the very highest level, we may never find out the truth...... unless the video pops up..

 

[Pat494]

Let's be reasonable. Would you say no to a gorgeous woman knocking on your bedroom door at 3 am ? DT is a groping sex mechanic and that has been proved. Need one say more ?
Could he be impeached just for screwing her ? No. But if he has been blackmailed and under their influence ??

 

[sminicooper]

Let's be reasonable. Would you say no to a gorgeous woman knocking on your bedroom door at 3 am ? DT is a groping sex mechanic and that has been proved. Need one say more ?
Could he be impeached just for screwing her ? No. But if he has been blackmailed and under their influence ??

The average bloke? – Possibly not. But I think DT with all his resources would be quite capable of organising it for himself without the extra free viewing facilities. But there again, just like trend following in trading, the old tried and tested honey trap has a good track record!

 

[wackypete2]

I'm still not seeing anything to validate the provenance of the document or the material presented therein, anyone could have written it?

It's complete trash. It wasn't even written by the US intelligence agencies. It was written by an ex British military agent who is now in hiding.

Peter

 

[CurrentBill]

Even if all this is true. I doubt it would cause trump to resign. He has already ridden out the sexist audio tape of him. No one cared and he won the election

 

[Atilla]

It's complete trash.

It wasn't even written by the US intelligence agencies. It was written by an ex British military agent who is now in hiding.

Peter

Some would argue to the contrary, fact it was written by ex British Military Agent working for MI6 and now in hiding lends greater credibility then that coming from slam dung FBI or CIA...

 

[mike.]

Let's be reasonable. Would you say no to a gorgeous woman knocking on your bedroom door at 3 am ? DT is a groping sex mechanic and that has been proved. Need one say more ?
Could he be impeached just for screwing her ? No. But if he has been blackmailed and under their influence ??

No, apparently he hired them to pee in his bed to somehow belittle the obamas who had previously slept there.....If they did it to me in a premiere inn, i swear to god i would knock them clean out...

 

[counter_violent]

No, apparently he hired them to pee in his bed to somehow belittle the obamas who had previously slept there.....If they did it to me in a premiere inn, i swear to god i would knock them clean out...

Don't worry Mike, you are not important enough, so will never happen

 

[Atilla]

No, apparently he hired them to pee in his bed to somehow belittle the obamas who had previously slept there.....If they did it to me in a premiere inn, i swear to god i would knock them clean out...

I was wondering how much it would cost to request such a service?


They wouldn't pee in your bed unless you paid them, so rest easy mate you have nothing to worry about.

 

[mike.]

Whats the odds of the video surfacing ? Putin has some bargaining power there....i bet sanctions are dropped within the next few months. Assuming its all true of course....:whistling

 

[Atilla]

Whats the odds of the video surfacing ? Putin has some bargaining power there....i bet sanctions are dropped within the next few months. Assuming its all true of course....:whistling

This could be democrats on the offensive.

Sanctions should be dropped as Russia has done nothing wrong. Simply claimed what belongs to her.

Russia has not attacked any country but only helped an ally where it was invited.

Trump has also rocked the boat wrt CIA, FBI and defence and with drug companies disputing charges.

Considering leak is from the UK and US intelligence side, what does that tell you?

Maybe the establishment doesn't like Trump.

Maybe Trump with all his meglomaniac traits WILL rock the establishment.

As I wrote before, I don't see why Russia would do some of the anti-US or Trump acts that is accused of right now.

Do you not see who gains and who loses here?

 

[hhiusa]

Make complaining on forums great again.

 

[dbphoenix]

This could be democrats on the offensive.

Sanctions should be dropped as Russia has done nothing wrong. Simply claimed what belongs to her.

Russia has not attacked any country but only helped an ally where it was invited.

Trump has also rocked the boat wrt CIA, FBI and defence and with drug companies disputing charges.

Considering leak is from the UK and US intelligence side, what does that tell you?

Maybe the establishment doesn't like Trump.

Maybe Trump with all his meglomaniac traits WILL rock the establishment.

As I wrote before, I don't see why Russia would do some of the anti-US or Trump acts that is accused of right now.

Do you not see who gains and who loses here?

Whether or not any of it is true is immaterial. Even if it were, Trump did nothing illegal. Even if it comes to influence-peddling, that is not necessarily illegal, though it depends on exactly what was/is peddled and how. But Trump is not going to be embarrassed by any of this. He did after all marry a soft-porn model. And he's made no secret about his attitudes toward women.

Used to be character was important in a president. Bill Clinton pretty much threw that out the window. Then there was McCain. And the list goes on. Now it's just hucksters, but at least we're honest about it.