Capitalism

Life will never be perfect - Capitalism and Socialism both have their strengths and weaknesses - but they both can be improved and controlled rather than exist in a "jungle" or in the "wild west" situation that you look upon as being free and natural environment

Capitalism doesn't have any inherent weaknesses, rather it's the natural outcome that you find distasteful. The fact that you think they both need to be 'controlled' shows that you don't even understand what this argument is about! :rolleyes:
 
Hi Forexmospehrian,

May I say some great posts of yours here and I have been reviewing your trading thread with delight. (A hell of a lot of pages though :) ) With regards to head transplants (although off topic here) - They have successfully carried this out already on primates so we know it can be done. I wouldn't put money on it being the next 5 years though. Not even in 20 years. The main problem would be from people opposing similar in style to when the first face transplant was carried out.
 
Capitalism doesn't have any inherent weaknesses, rather it's the natural outcome that you find distasteful. The fact that you think they both need to be 'controlled' shows that you don't even understand what this argument is about! :rolleyes:


Do you know what Capitalism is?

Are you suggesting the only weakness capitalism has is external?


Nothing has any inherent weakness if you consider it for what it is! Steel has no no inherent weaknesses for what it is but leave it outside and expose it to a few minor elements that don't amount to much and it will rust away.


You blinkered stubborn mule :LOL:

The mind boggles... :rolleyes:
 
Capitalism doesn't have any inherent weaknesses, rather it's the natural outcome that you find distasteful. The fact that you think they both need to be 'controlled' shows that you don't even understand what this argument is about! :rolleyes:

The irony is the fact you made that statement with a face like this :rolleyes:

What are you advocating your position to be now? The new breed of Capitalist Anarchist?

I'm bored.

:sleep:
 
Hi Forexmospehrian,

May I say some great posts of yours here and I have been reviewing your trading thread with delight. (A hell of a lot of pages though :) ) With regards to head transplants (although off topic here) - They have successfully carried this out already on primates so we know it can be done. I wouldn't put money on it being the next 5 years though. Not even in 20 years. The main problem would be from people opposing similar in style to when the first face transplant was carried out.

There is a great deal of complexity in the difference between doing it on a monkey and doing it on humans. That's like building a volcano for a grade school project and then thinking you know everything there is to know about volcanoes. Not likely. Although, I am in agreement with you @Anon1 about it taking more than 20 years.

Do you know what Capitalism is?

Are you suggesting the only weakness capitalism has is external?

Nothing has any inherent weakness if you consider it for what it is! Steel has no no inherent weaknesses for what it is but leave it outside and expose it to a few minor elements that don't amount to much and it will rust away.

You blinkered stubborn mule :LOL:

The mind boggles... :rolleyes:

You are the rudest stupid person on this board. You only posit arguments, if one could call them that by mudslinging and calling people names. If you have anything intelligent to say, then by all means, do so. Did you even notice how @new_trader never calls anyone names. He also manages to stay on topic and posts his own arguments instead of only tearing apart others.

1. Steel does have an inherent weakness.
2. Not all steel rusts as there is stainless and carbon steel, which differ by the amount of chromium they possess. Chromium plays a dominant role in reacting with oxygen to form this corrosion product film. In fact, all stainless steels by definition contain at least 10 percent chromium.
3. There are inherent properties of steel that could be considered inherent weaknesses or strength such as coefficient of thermal expansion, plasticity and tensile strength.
4. Steel has an increase in plasticity at the cost of tensile strength. Since I am sure you do not know this, judging from your comment, plasticity is the ability to bend without deformation and return to its original state. The greater the tensile strength, the more force that can be imparted upon it. Things with greater tensile strength are prone to shattering like carbon fiber.

Your ignorance in all things never ceases to amaze me. I am sure new_trader feels the same way.
 
There is a great deal of complexity in the difference between doing it on a monkey and doing it on humans. That's like building a volcano for a grade school project and then thinking you know everything there is to know about volcanoes. Not likely. Although, I am in agreement with you @Anon1 about it taking more than 20 years.



You are the rudest stupid person on this board. You only posit arguments, if one could call them that by mudslinging and calling people names. If you have anything intelligent to say, then by all means, do so. Did you even notice how @new_trader never calls anyone names. He also manages to stay on topic and posts his own arguments instead of only tearing apart others.

1. Steel does have an inherent weakness.
2. Not all steel rusts as there is stainless and carbon steel, which differ by the amount of chromium they possess. Chromium plays a dominant role in reacting with oxygen to form this corrosion product film. In fact, all stainless steels by definition contain at least 10 percent chromium.
3. There are inherent properties of steel that could be considered inherent weaknesses or strength such as coefficient of thermal expansion, plasticity and tensile strength.
4. Steel has an increase in plasticity at the cost of tensile strength. Since I am sure you do not know this, judging from your comment, plasticity is the ability to bend without deformation and return to its original state. The greater the tensile strength, the more force that can be imparted upon it. Things with greater tensile strength are prone to shattering like carbon fiber.

Your ignorance in all things never ceases to amaze me. I am sure new_trader feels the same way.


For an educated person I find you remarkably obtuse and stupid too.

You don't answer questions but only reply about **** which you think you know about. However, you don't because it's obvious your application leaves much to be desired. You are a malfunctioning human specimen. Applied intelligence is not your strong point. Like a computer with disk and memory but no CPU. Useless piece of sh!t.

In my jungle you wouldn't survive a day let alone a week. Now get lost and suck up to some other white supremacist who may give you some of his c0ck and BS.
 
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Morning hhiusa

I do agree with you here that new_trader does stay on topic and tries to keep the discussions focused on the main subject Capitalism

I do think though what frustrates many of the other contributors is that you are both great theorists and maybe "ideologists" - but in the real world so many other factors play a part - many that you just seem to dismiss as being unimportant.

Theory and reality - don't always meet up and agree

That's why Capitalism in its "raw format" as many flaws - and if you are in favour of keeping it it is raw format - then so many other important " non economic" factors of life suffer badly.

Will be trying to explain more later on today - but meanwhile after lunch - back to trading

Both of you have a good day


Regards


F
 
Some plonker from Manchester pays 49 million for some plonker from Liverpool.

Capitalism.

Hi Oscar

100 million outlay with his £200k a week wages

The UK football world does seem to have gone mad - but Man City still look upon it as a good deal - and I reckon they hope in 5 yrs time when he is only 25 he could still fetch £100m + and he will have helped City make 1 billion + out of all the world TVE rights from the Premier and Champions league

If you are a Liverpool support you are probably pleased him and his agent have gone. I am a Man U supporter - so delighted we been spending multi millions again to try and get back at the top. We need an Oil multi billionaire to take us private again lol

Regards


F
 
The mean, money grabbing landowners in Ireland were a direct cause of the Irish rebellions. Some landowners did turn the poor out of their miserable shacks to be homeless if they couldn't pay the rent. The resentment got so bad in some places that the mob ransacked and burnt down the big houses there in the 19th century.

The obvious lesson is to treat people humanely or else.
 
For an educated person I find you remarkably obtuse and stupid too.

You don't answer questions but only reply about **** which you think you know about.

I happen to know exactly what I am talking about. Did you even go to a university?

However, you don't because it's obvious your application leaves much to be desired.

Application of what pray tell? The fact that I do not sugarcoat things, I call you out when I see you posting things with no facts or evidence. You spend most of your time calling people names. That is an application that leaves much to be desired.

You are a malfunctioning human specimen. Applied intelligence is not your strong point. Like a computer with disk and memory but no CPU. Useless piece of sh!t.

Now who is using twisted and far fetched metaphors. That pretty much describes your posts. Using foul language is all you seem capable of.

In my jungle you wouldn't survive a day let alone a week. Now get lost and suck up to some other white supremacist who may give you some of his c0ck and BS.

In your jungle? Seriously what world do you live in? Again with the faulty jungle analogies. You may think my applied intelligence is flawed but you have not even shown that you have any. Your statements are loaded with fallacies and cop outs. You do realize that you are the only person talking about white supremacy, don't you?
 
I happen to know exactly what I am talking about. Did you even go to a university?



Application of what pray tell? The fact that I do not sugarcoat things, I call you out when I see you posting things with no facts or evidence. You spend most of your time calling people names. That is an application that leaves much to be desired.



Now who is using twisted and far fetched metaphors. That pretty much describes your posts. Using foul language is all you seem capable of.



In your jungle? Seriously what world do you live in? Again with the faulty jungle analogies. You may think my applied intelligence is flawed but you have not even shown that you have any. Your statements are loaded with fallacies and cop outs. You do realize that you are the only person talking about white supremacy, don't you?



So what if one has been to university or not?

You smug obnoxious little snot. It's only another school for learning a discipline to make one self useful to humanity. Not to indulge one self in ones own ****.

Never heard of anyone talking them selves up soooo much EVER before. You have got to be the smallest person I've ever come across.

Pathetic twit with an inferiority complex is how I'll always remember you.

Same ilk as your twin look alike Dylann Storm. He thought he was superior to those innocent 9 victims he murdered in cold blood.

However, at his subconscious level he also knew he wasn't. In fact he was miserable and unhappy. So he creates a fictitious concept "you rape our women and you’re taking over our country".

Fact is those nine peoples ancestors lands were invaded and raped. They should be shooting his ass but that's life for you.

BUT NO! HE BELIEVES HE IS SUPERIOR. HIS COUNTRY IS UNDER ATTACK. THE 9 PEOPLE ARE RAPISTS AND INVADERS. HE IS JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE. Survival of the fittest is the elimination of the unsuccessful right? He believes it with all his heart and mind. His given a 21st b'day present. A gun! Great now he can show them. The gun is the great equaliser.

SAME AS YOU WHO BELIEVES HE IS SUPERIOR. You are the same ilk. You think you are superior but everyone and you included deep down knows that's a lot of b0ll0cks.

He used a gun but you like to troll and blog people to death with pieces of information that have no bearing on discussions.

When it gets a little too involved and you lose the plot it's all about gramer, English and how you cna speak zillion languages and how California is 1000 x the size of UK blah blah blah... My goodness you are one crazy stupid f0cker. Like a scratched record.

After a while it's simply too much...

I do hope you seek some therapy and counselling to sort your **** out. I really do. I think you'll find it will help you in your life.


Nuff said. (y)


Placed on ignore. :)
 
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So what if one has been to university or not?

You smug obnoxious little snot. It's only another school for learning a discipline to make one self useful to humanity. Not to indulge one self in ones own ****.

Never heard of anyone talking them selves up soooo much EVER before. You have got to be the smallest person I've ever come across.

Pathetic twit with an inferiority complex is how I'll always remember you.

Same ilk as your twin look alike Dylann Storm. He thought he was superior to those innocent 9 victims he murdered in cold blood.

You get fixated upon certain things. You love to bring up Goldman Sachs, white supremacy and the murder of 9 innocent victims by some guy. Why you keep bringing such random things, the world will never know.

However, at his subconscious level he also knew he wasn't. In fact he was miserable and unhappy. So he creates a fictitious concept "you rape our women and you’re taking over our country".

It sounds as if you are trying to assure yourself of this more than anything.

Fact is those nine peoples ancestors lands were invaded and raped. They should be shooting his ass but that's life for you.

BUT NO! HE BELIEVES HE IS SUPERIOR. HIS COUNTRY IS UNDER ATTACK. THE 9 PEOPLE ARE RAPISTS AND INVADERS. HE IS JUST TRYING TO SURVIVE. Survival of the fittest is the elimination of the unsuccessful right? He believes it with all his heart and mind. His given a 21st b'day present. A gun! Great now he can show them. The gun is the great equaliser.

SAME AS YOU WHO BELIEVES HE IS SUPERIOR. You are the same ilk. You think you are superior but everyone and you included deep down knows that's a lot of b0ll0cks.

He used a gun but you like to troll and blog people to death with pieces of information that have no bearing on discussions.

When it gets a little to involved and you lose the plot it's all about gramer, English and how you cna speak zillion languages and how California is 1000 x the size of UK blah blah blah... My goodness you are one crazy stupid f0cker. Like a scratched record.

California is awesome. It has everything, even a little something for socialists like you such as the highest franchise tax in the country.

After a while it's simply too much...

I do hope you seek some therapy and counselling to sort your **** out. I really do. I think you'll find it will help you in your life.

After your reaction here, I would say it is you who needs to seek therapy in a big way. The caps lock is an interesting touch. :cheesy:. It is not about being a broken record when they are all facts. :smart:

Nuff said. (y)


Placed on ignore. :)

You have said that before. :confused:
 
It is clearly obvious to me who has won the argument. Atilla is a decent moderate while cowboy is a neo Nazi monster. Let's hope his type doesn't get to high office. Do the decent residents of Newport Beach realize they have this fellow living amongst them and just waiting to explode ?
 
It is clearly obvious to me who has won the argument. Atilla is a decent moderate while cowboy is a neo Nazi monster.

I think neither of you have won anything considering you have to continue to back up each other's inane posts. The only one who has exploded is @Atilla judging by his insane use of the caps lock. :LOL:

You do realize that cowboys are awesome right. :clap:
 
You get fixated upon certain things. You love to bring up Goldman Sachs, white supremacy and the murder of 9 innocent victims by some guy. Why you keep bringing such random things, the world will never know.



It sounds as if you are trying to assure yourself of this more than anything.



California is awesome. It has everything, even a little something for socialists like you such as the highest franchise tax in the country.



After your reaction here, I would say it is you who needs to seek therapy in a big way. The caps lock is an interesting touch. :cheesy:. It is not about being a broken record when they are all facts. :smart:



You have said that before. :confused:

Hi hhiusa

Major mistake there

I am me and not Atilla

I dont think Atilla has mentioned Goldmans - its me who keeps going on about these fine upstanding smart crooks.

Do you ever think you might also not be perfect ?

Regards

F
 
Hi hhiusa

Major mistake there

I am me and not Atilla

I dont think Atilla has mentioned Goldmans - its me who keeps going on about these fine upstanding smart crooks.

Do you ever think you might also not be perfect ? I have not claimed to be perfect although my arguments more so than yours and Atilla's and Pat's.

Regards

F

You are not the only one who goes on and on about Goldman Sachs.
 
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