Hi Guys,
Mike, If they do send your money back, which i hope they do, keep it! Its quite likely there will be more calls along the lines of "look, we made you a profit, we sent it to you, now we have something now even bigger" followed by "you know we are reliable, we've already sent you your money back before" It's the sprat to catch a mackeral pitch, this is a traditional "ponzi scheme" tied into the stock business, give the odd client their money back to keep the heat at bay, the chance of everyone wanting there money back at the same time is almost zero, and those you do send money to, will send back ten times more. Not heard it for a while, but have been caught on it, I cant say it often enough, keep your money!
As for the other posts about apex and the similar site, some interesting data, on both sites, will comment at the bottom of the post.
First, the apex domain and hosting:
Registration Service Provided By: siteground.com
Contact:
[email protected]
Domain name: a-p-e-x.com
Registrant Contact:
Michael Butters (
[email protected])
442071981332
Fax:
Albert Buildings, 49 Queen Victoria Street
London, XX EC4N 4SA
GB
Administrative Contact:
Michael Butters (
[email protected])
442071981332
Fax:
Albert Buildings, 49 Queen Victoria Street
London, XX EC4N 4SA
GB
Technical Contact:
Michael Butters (
[email protected])
442071981332
Fax:
Albert Buildings, 49 Queen Victoria Street
London, XX EC4N 4SA
GB
Status: Locked
Name Servers:
ns1.sgwin3.com
ns2.sgwin3.com
Creation date: 01 Aug 2006 07:43:31
Expiration date: 01 Aug 2007 07:43:31
And now the focus-aim
Name World Internet Solutions, Ltd. - HostingPanama (TM)
Address Main St., Whickhams Cay 1
Address R.G. HODGE Plaza, Second Floor
Address Tortola, N/A
Country VG
CountryCode VG
Domain
Name FOCUS-AIM.COM
UpdatedDate 22-Feb-2007
ExpiresDate 13-Feb-2008
CreatedDate 13-Feb-2007
NameServer NS12.PTYHOST.COM
NameServer NS11.PTYHOST.COM
Status clientTransferProhibited
Registrar
Name TUCOWS, INC.
AdminContact
Name Care Department, Customer
Email
[email protected]
Address Main St., Whickhams Cay 1
Address R.G. HODGE Plaza, Second Floor
Address Tortola, N/A
Country VG
CountryCode VG
Phone +50
Fax (7) 2264678 Fax: +50 (7) 2266567
TechContact
Name Center, Network Operations
Email
[email protected]
Address Main St., Whickhams Cay 1
Address R.G. HODGE Plaza, Second Floor
Address Tortola, N/A
Country VG
CountryCode VG
Phone +50
Fax (7) 2264357 Fax: +50 (7) 2266567
The interesting thing here is looking at the sites, no doubt they are designed by the same person, the more concerning thing is the one year hosting only, if these sites and companies were here to stay, they would have substantially longer registration times as opposed to just a year.