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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:16pm   #121
 
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ok then sensible dabate..

why do i need to test it through the most difficuilt trading years? when you dont?

and dont give me some bs about trading data
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:19pm   #122
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oildaytrader started this thread In 2001 , 2002 and 2003 the system did not do very well .Although it made a profit , there is a tweak to this system which would have made triple double to triple the profits shown.

All this nuggets of info is confidential and propreitary.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:21pm   #123
 
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why would you need to back test 2001,2002,2003, when we are not in those years? we are in 2010..

who cares if your system performs in the past when it almost certainly doesnt now, which is why you wont test past 2008. (well you have tested it but you have seen the results so dont post them)
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:23pm   #124
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ok then sensible dabate..

why do i need to test it through the most difficuilt trading years? when you dont?

and dont give me some bs about trading data
In a few weeks I will test it when I have time .I have some data for some currencies until end of 2008 .

I don't have the data , provide me with 1m data in metatrader hst format in 4 digits and I will test.The other problem is data for metatrader changed to 5 digits after 2008.

I don't have tradestation.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:26pm   #125
 
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so what if it changes to 5 digits? does that mean your system doesnt work? lol.

maybe you should get tradestation with your untold riches of system trading?

but from what your saying, you design system, back test them to 2008 to find if they work, then trade them live with blind faith on the current market? some how i don't quite believe that.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:30pm   #126
 
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more to the point actually, after 2008 you say its 5 digits which causes a problem..so err...how are you trading them live as we speak? am i the only one who see's threw this clown?

go just admit you're a fraud and we can be done with it
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:34pm   #127
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so what if it changes to 5 digits? does that mean your system doesnt work? lol.

maybe you should get tradestation with your untold riches of system trading?

but from what your saying, you design system, back test them to 2008 to find if they work, then trade them live with blind faith on the current market? some how i don't quite believe that.

Half data is in 4 digits , half in 5 digits bit akward to back tests half and half in 4/5.

The system is on live accounts on 5 digits.

Why give tradestation my profits in fees?

Why should I make you believe it?I don't sell anything to make anyone believe me.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:36pm   #128
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more to the point actually, after 2008 you say its 5 digits which causes a problem..so err...how are you trading them live as we speak? am i the only one who see's threw this clown?

go just admit you're a fraud and we can be done with it

The only fraud is someone who pretends to be a Rothschild.

The system was converted to 5 digits for live trading.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:38pm   #129
 
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so answer me this. you back test up to 2008, then unleash them on the real market having no clue if they will work or not? true/false?
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:49pm   #130
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so answer me this. you back test up to 2008, then unleash them on the real market having no clue if they will work or not? true/false?
2001 to 8 gave us a good range of market conditions to back test on , however we were not sure of if any bugs existed in the automated systems and if live accounts would trade the same as demo testing on feeds supplied by bucket shops, this would only be known after a live run on small amounts.

Hope you understand about development and testing.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:53pm   #131
 
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that doesnt answer my question.

do you or do you not trade systems live that have only been tested up to 2008?
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:57pm   #132
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that doesnt answer my question.

do you or do you not trade systems live that have only been tested up to 2008?

Yes and they make profits on live accounts since 2009.
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 2:58pm   #133
 
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evidence?
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 3:00pm   #134
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http://www.trade2win.com/boards/gene...ml#post1084340
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Old Apr 20, 2010, 4:31pm   #135
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Are you seriously trying to say that this is a good looking equity curve that shows you have an edge in the market?
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