Do you dread sitting down to trade?

Joe Ross

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“Sometimes I absolutely dread sitting down to trade. I have had so many bad experiences that I’m not sure I can pull the trigger. Is there anything I can do about it?”

What happens to us as we trade colors the way we see things in the market and influences the way we approach them. We take a big hit in a particular market, and we decide never to trade there again. Or, when we have a great trade in a market, it produces pleasure, so we try to trade there again as soon as we can.

How do you envision the markets overall? More importantly, how do you conceive of your role in the market? Do you see the markets as potentially hazardous arenas in which you must be very, very careful? Do you see them as though everyone in them is out to take your money? Or do you view them as a place in which there is dynamic profit opportunity?

Each time you sit down to your trader workspace, do you feel uncomfortable and wish you were somewhere else? Or are you really eager to jump into your work, look over your charts, and get down to trading? Does plowing through new material feel like a lot of hard work, or does it excite you to learn new information that will add to your ability as a trader?

The way you envision the markets will have a powerful influence on your actions! So it's absolutely necessary for you to be very much aware of just what your perception is and what past experiences colored your perception. You need to honestly assess your vision of - and feelings towards - the markets and your role in them. It will surely be time well spent.

Here's something to think about: the longer you sit in front of your screen, the more bad experiences you are going to have. The thing that defeats most day traders is that of overtrading. As you continue to sit in front of your trading screen, your focus and your sensibilities become increasingly numb. The longer you sit there, the more the probabilities increase in favor of your making bad decisions and wrong trades.

Let me ask you a question that may put the entire situation into perspective for you. Have you ever seen old people in a nursing home sitting hour upon hour staring at the TV screen? If you haven't, can you picture what it would be like? Almost everyone has seen people who either by choice or circumstance, sit all day watching TV. They sit and watch the "boob tube" hour after hour. What do you suppose this is doing for their minds? Do you think they are becoming increasingly sharp? Is sitting there all day helping them to grow? What would you say is happening to their minds? Are they not going to suffer from an increasing amount of atrophy as they fail to think - as they fail to use their minds?

When I see a trader sitting in front of his trading screen all day long, it generates the same kind of picture for me as when I see someone watching TV all day. They are destroying their minds. At least with TV you might learn something. But what are you learning watching a cursor tick up and down hour after hour?

Trading is a terrible occupation if all you do is trade. Taking signals from a mechanical trading system is one of the most mind numbing, emotionally crippling things anyone can do. The shorter the time frame being watched, the worse it is. Is it any wonder that 90% or more of day traders last only 3-6 months in the market?

A successful trader has two major things going for him/her: 1. Plenty of money to have an excellent life-style. 2. Plenty of time to do some good in this world. But if you sit and trade all day, what do you have to show for it in the end? What have you produced that is of benefit to anyone but yourself?

I'll let you answer that. But my suggestion to you is that you strive to trade less, not more. Learn what the good trades look like, and then trade them only when they occur. And when they do occur, focus your money - trade as many contracts on the good trades as you can. Don't trade more of the time on lots of trades, trade lots of contracts less of the time on the good trades.

Use your time and money to help those less fortunate than you. After all is said and done, it is more blessed to give than to receive. Do you know what the word "bless" means? It is a verb meaning to "make happy." Paraphrased, that old saying translates to "you will be a happier person if you 'give,' than if all you do is strive to 'get.'" But if you are busy spending all your time on a 1-minute chart trying all day long to get, you're not going to be able to get much of the happiness that is available from giving.
 
Joe,

I totally agree with your sentiment, there is a lot more to life than trading. Tomorrow, it's golf for me, i've done my bit for the week.
 
Can I ask why you post this?

Joe likes to spam the site.

I used to take the p!ss with an image of him dressed as a can of spam.

But now i feel sorry for him because he will soon be in a nursing home sitting hour upon hour staring at the TV screen..
 
1. If I dreaded sitting down to trade I would return to being a dentist - though I'd make less money.
2. Watching TV is rarely intellectually stimulating, whereas trading is so it's quite different - at least for some of us. Of course if you are merely looking at candles forming or squiggly lines then I can see some would find that boring.
3. Trading is what you make it.
4. I liken it to being a sniper, patience is required. Others might look at a sniper and say what a boring job, (s)he is doing nothing, why don't they go play shooting ducks in an amusement park......
Richard

PS Mr. Ross,
Your comments are often worth reading even if I don't agree :)
 
That's the same thing unless you were thinking of anal fissures rather than swollen blood vessels in the anus.
 
some folk are absorbed by TV,.....and are lost to "reality",......some folk are absorbed by the markets,...and loose their sense of reality,.....and there are a few who,..see the wood through the trees,..go figure!!
 
Here's something to think about: the longer you sit in front of your screen, the more bad experiences you are going to have. The thing that defeats most day traders is that of overtrading. As you continue to sit in front of your trading screen, your focus and your sensibilities become increasingly numb. The longer you sit there, the more the probabilities increase in favor of your making bad decisions and wrong trades.

Reading your post can harbor positive and negative vibes from the reader. But if you dread doing something e.g trading, why do it then? But I think I do get your point and it is still worthy to ponder on, so I guess thanks for letting me know what you think/feel. :)
 
Sometimes I absolutely dread sitting down to trade. I have had so many bad experiences that I’m not sure I can pull the trigger. Is there anything I can do about it?”

Yes! prepare your trades



Each time you sit down to your trader workspace, do you feel uncomfortable and wish you were somewhere else? Or are you really eager to jump into your work, look over your charts, and get down to trading? Does plowing through new material feel like a lot of hard work, or does it excite you to learn new information that will add to your ability as a trader?

This should be a pleasure and a task you should forwared to

Here's something to think about: the longer you sit in front of your screen, the more bad experiences you are going to have. The thing that defeats most day traders is that of overtrading. As you continue to sit in front of your trading screen, your focus and your sensibilities become increasingly numb. The longer you sit there, the more the probabilities increase in favor of your making bad decisions and wrong trades.

Agree completly

Trading is a terrible occupation if all you do is trade
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Best occupation in the world

A successful trader has two major things going for him/her: 1. Plenty of money to have an excellent life-style. 2.

You don't need plenty of money to be a good trader
and an excellent lifestyle will come from being a good trader


Use your time and money to help those less fortunate than you.



Trading is very hard work don't get that confused for one second enjoy you success.
Sod the less fortunate!
let the likes of Bill Gates and Buffet help them.
 
If you dread sitting down to trade then possibly one of the following apply: 1. you're doing it wrong , 2. you're not cut out for it, 3. you need to get your ar%e seen to - as has been mentioned.

Nothing succeeds like success and if you've cracked it or know that you are on your way then dread (if you ever had it) is out of the window and trading is delightful / exciting / boring / rewarding - whatever you want, because you're in control (of yourself - never the market). Perhaps the hardest thing to admit / recognise is if you just ain't got the talent - I'm sceptical of the "anybody can be taught to trade" brigade. You can learn the motions etc but you must have a feel for it - just look at any highly skilled activity. I can drive to Tesco's but Grand Prix F1 - don't make me laugh!

As a former long-time trainer of people doing a highly skilled activity it's been my experience that the people who don't have the natural aptitude for a skill and can't succeed in any meaningful way are sometimes the most determined not to give up. Persistence is a fine thing but not to the point where it becomes self-defeating. Often, such people know they are in difficulty but can't / won't admit to themselves that the activity is not for them. Does this apply to trading? - perhaps the oft-quoted 95% statistic is relevant here? All this assumes of course that correct methodology has been taught (often self-taught in trading) and practised for a sensible amount of time. Although I'm self taught (I find books are the best way for me) I wonder if a good trainer could have got me there more quickly and efficiently - my biggest problem was to find the trading method and t/f that suits me best - possibly easily diagnosed by an experienced trainer?

The trainer / teacher is an outsider looking in and can often see where the problem is and advise remedial (including quitting) that is unapparent to the student. Where you get such unbiased advice in trading I don't know (maybe your employer if you are a trainee Pro) - There must be a proportion of good (trading) trainers out there but would the snake-oil merchants advise you to quit? - I think not. Best leave it to your bank-manager:LOL:

So my point is: it's difficult to know when to give up, external advice may help but if you dread trading, then do something about it because you definitely have a problem that needs sorting - unless you are an oddball of course.
 
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