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Is it just me who cannot understand why Two obviously intelligent educated people managed to leave Three kids alone in an apartment in Portugal.

Hope for the little girls safe return, but it's beyond me how people can be so selfish and careless.

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How old are the kids who were looking after the 3 year old ? hmm hang on, ive checked.

Ithought the kids looking after the little girl might of been 12/14 years old. A grey area of responsibility for teenagers to shoulder but can be accepatable i think depending on the sense of the older kids.

BUT, These kids were only 2 years old ? I dunno professional doctors leave 3 kids under the age of 4 on their own. Unfortunately ,this is what can happen.

Maybe its a planned kidnap based on affluent tourists and the agenda is an exchange for monies and nothing more sinister.

Medical bods know that they have to make the best decision based on what is known at the time, but the fact that the eating house had a creche facility, makes you think what planet are these people living on.

I notice reading news web services the coverage of (or rather lack of) gross parental neglect , seems to be lacking. What would the headlines read if it was a lower social class couple making headlines.?
 
So now the authorities are at the stage of offering them deals....what exactly is the world coming to....accident eh !!! wot ...they accidently slapped her about a bit .....what is this all about ?......visit the pope ...why ? ...forgiveness? ....If these Two ever get found guilty .....I'd make an example of them both and send them away for life.......
 
I don't know if that's your opinion or if you're quoting from The Sun, but regardless of any ‘official outcome’ on this issue, I doubt we'll ever know the real truth, nor do we really need to.

Even if the parents are tried and found guilty, or not, they'll likely go on professing their innocence, which they may or may not be.

The thing is, we all screw up now and again, and whether it was just less than pristine parenting in leaving the kids alone even for just half an hour or something far worse, I just hope next time you screw up, you manage to do so in relative privacy or at least have a less vengeful audience than they obviously do.

What you think they deserve is a complete irrelevance.
 
counter_violent said:
So now the authorities are at the stage of offering them deals....what exactly is the world coming to....accident eh !!! wot ...they accidently slapped her about a bit .....what is this all about ?......visit the pope ...why ? ...forgiveness? ....If these Two ever get found guilty .....I'd make an example of them both and send them away for life.......
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But the point is that they have not been found guilty, yet. That they were terribly , even criminally, careless, I'll go along with but, as I see it, there is a sad case of character assassination going on right now which has been started, as always, by the media and is being taken up by the public.

Split
 
ive not really been following it apart from the odd headline that I run itno every few weeks, the latest was the DNA and parents being named official suspects so direct questions could be asked..... what the questions were I dunno etc.... but my point is the legal system is a sham anyway, isnt it ? the police done want truth, nor the courts , everyone is only interested in winning a case ? get a result ?

Well what bollox,,,,, whats wrong with truth and making judgements on the truth, how come the police or courts and even worse scumm attorney's will knowingly try to keep a guilty party from the truth ?


it sux very big things I feel.
 
Crap Buddist said:
ive not really been following it apart from the odd headline that I run itno every few weeks, the latest was the DNA and parents being named official suspects so direct questions could be asked..... what the questions were I dunno etc.... but my point is the legal system is a sham anyway, isnt it ? the police done want truth, nor the courts , everyone is only interested in winning a case ? get a result ?

Well what bollox,,,,, whats wrong with truth and making judgements on the truth, how come the police or courts and even worse scumm attorney's will knowingly try to keep a guilty party from the truth ?


it sux very big things I feel.
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As in CSI I would follow the evidence.

How do they know she was drugged? There needs to be an explanation!

Have they really found Maddie's blood in the rental car? There needs to be an explanation!

The rest is hearsay and non-substantiated possibilities. These could all be simply red herrings or plants by the police to gauge reactions. The guilty have a way of owning up to their guilt.

I'd keep an open eye mind rather than follow papers. :rolleyes:
 
If these Two ever get found guilty .....I'd make an example of them both and send them away for life.......
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You need to be careful here.

They may get found guilty when in fact they are totally innocent......wrongful convictions happen more than we realise and can often be as a result of police frame-ups. It's happened in the UK many many times over the years and still continues to happen - unfortunately and frighteningly.

However, if they are really guilty and ever truly confess to their guilt , then I would go along with your comments.

I cannot see this happening though.

Nobody in this world except the most consumate of actors with nerves of super re-inforced steel would either dare or be able to dupe the whole world, including the Pope, over an extended period whilst under the continual glare of the media spotlight.

They would have cracked long ago.

These people are totally innocent ....my humble opinion only.
 
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I've been following this very sad story.

It is unheard of in Mediterranean countries for parents to leave children at home alone.

I do know that the father visited George Bush and the Pope for emotional support.

There is something quite strange about this very sad story but I don't know what.
 
I'll be most surprised if they were involved in the death of this child, hid the body in a foreign country in which they are strangers, without having been discovered by now.

Who is capable of doing such a thing?

This is my opinion only but I doubt if the police would have let them go home if there had been a good case against them.
 
Splitlink said:
I'll be most surprised if they were involved in the death of this child, hid the body in a foreign country in which they are strangers, without having been discovered by now.

Who is capable of doing such a thing?

This is my opinion only but I doubt if the police would have let them go home if there had been a good case against them.
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This could be a ploy to force out the real suspect who is being closely watched and monitored.

The hairs into the boot could have been easily transferred from luggage which was bound to be in contact with Maddie's hair. Not sure what the fuss here is about.

Blood is a little more tricky but could easily have been planted. Even by the criminal party who kidnapped Maddie. Where was the car kept for 25 days?

Portugeese police leave a lot to be demanded. There could be loads of justifiable explanations.

As for the media they really suck big time.

The couple don't fit the phsychological profile of killers to me but there certainly is a lot of explanations to be done.

Was the sedation true or a bluff? Not sure what explanation the granny gave. Anybody know? :rolleyes:
 
Approximately 800,000 kids go missing worldwide every year.

Are we going to debate each one?
 
TheBramble said:
And there's my point. Why this one? Because the media have told you to.
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The media in this case have themselves been manipulated from the get go...firstly by the Mccanns and their supporters secondly by the Portugese authorities and more latterly by the public frenzy for information.

Quite unusual the way all of this has unfolded and very different from the normal course of events.
 
TheBramble said:
And there's my point. Why this one? Because the media have told you to.
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I can't remember another case just like this one. It had to attract the attention of everyone. It has happened to two, comfortably off, middle class professionals who seemed to have no problems in the world. It just shows how luck can turn. It seems likely that they could lose their two remaining children, as well.

Don't like to think of what most people are thinking.
 
yacarob1 said:
Do you by any chance take a contrarian approach to your trading ?
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If by that you mean do I make money trading, yes. But I don't adopt a specifically contrarian view.

However. if you're attempting to line me up for another snipe from 'that crowd', you're on your own and you should have learned your lesson by now.

I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and making an assumption your question was genuine rather than another failed attempt at frame setting.
 
Just engaging in harmless leg-pulling Tony.

Moving on.......

1. I wonder if anyone has considered the possibility that the reason the Mccanns didn't leave their kids in the holiday resort nursery could possibly have been because Madeleine was already dead ?

2. I am slightly concerned that the managers / trustees ( ? ) of the Madeleine fund are seeking advice now to see if they can hand over some of the money to the Mccanns to subsidise their legal costs. I think such a move would be immoral , would certainly cause a public outcry and would drastically harden public feeling against these people.

3. I love the media. Where would I be without my daily dose of b******t ?
 
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