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Old Jun 28, 2015, 8:32am   #46
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This shows that the US has the lowest emigration rates. As bad as some people say that Americans are, it appears that most people want to be one. Australia is second in the world only to the US.

having spent a month out there last year (and I love the USA having worked for big US companies in the past) I think that outside the urban conurbations the perception of foreign travel for the average American is that foreigners will

- rob you
- shoot you
- both of the above

......... in the country you visit

England is probably one of the more favoured destinations but the insular and jingoistic nature of US mainstream news channels and communications continues to spread this propaganda

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having spent a month out there last year (and I love the USA having worked for big US companies in the past) I think that outside the urban conurbations the perception of foreign travel for the average American is that foreigners will

- rob you
- shoot you
- both of the above

......... in the country you visit

England is probably one of the more favoured destinations but the insular and jingoistic nature of US mainstream news channels and communications continues to spread this propaganda

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Most Americans do not pause for thought and consider the question why:-
Is it because they are mostly loud, brash, insensitive, overweight dummies; with a Govt that is also loud. aggressive and over here in force or perhaps something else turns people off. It's NOT for nothing that's for sure.

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Most Americans do not pause for thought and consider the question why:-
Is it because they are mostly loud, brash, insensitive, overweight dummies; with a Govt that is also loud. aggressive and over here in force or perhaps something else turns people off. It's NOT for nothing that's for sure.

I admire you hhiusa in facing up to a serious problem but are you man enough to do something positive about it OR is it the easy path to reply angrily and spitefully ?? Which is what I am expecting. In which case the problem won't go away but get worse.

Stoning the messenger is really not a sensible way to go.
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Most Americans do not pause for thought and consider the question why:-
Is it because they are mostly loud, brash, insensitive, overweight dummies;

Now what gives you that idea Pat..?



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Old Jun 28, 2015, 4:16pm   #51
 
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Most Americans do not pause for thought and consider the question why:-
Is it because they are mostly loud, brash, insensitive, overweight dummies; with a Govt that is also loud. aggressive and over here in force or perhaps something else turns people off. It's NOT for nothing that's for sure.

Why would anyone need to pause for thought about England's weather? The picture is true to form. England is $&@! weather as the Middle East is to oil and $$$ and the US is to military power.

Forget the queen, long live the hegemony!
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Now what gives you that idea Pat..?



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_7679298.html
I wonder why.

My concern is that the people say in the Mid West won't understand the issues and probably won't care either but here nearer to the action ( about 20+ Brits murdered yesterday ) we got to put up with the anti-Americanism, being perceived as their smaller side-kick.
The US politicians are more concerned with how many votes they are going to get or lose. World affairs is generally seen as a losing cause there, which is not so surprising seeing how useless they are at it.
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Most Americans do not pause for thought and consider the question why:-
Is it because they are mostly loud, brash, insensitive, overweight dummies; with a Govt that is also loud. aggressive and over here in force or perhaps something else turns people off. It's NOT for nothing that's for sure.

Lifestyle diseases alone will bankrupt the NHS within a decade. Say what? The British are fat too?
http://www.england.nhs.uk/2014/09/17...about-obesity/
https://www.benenden.co.uk/media-cen...re-of-the-nhs/
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Lifestyle diseases alone will bankrupt the NHS within a decade. Say what? The British are fat too?
http://www.england.nhs.uk/2014/09/17...about-obesity/
https://www.benenden.co.uk/media-cen...re-of-the-nhs/
I talk about why Americans are so disliked abroad and chicken brains is off about the NHS and the weather. A complete Non Sequitor as usual.

The US just can't get it's head around the problem. More napalm they yell, bigger bombs, spend more trillions on defence ( which is really attack ) etc. No dear allies that is completely wrong.
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I talk about why Americans are so disliked abroad and chicken brains is off about the NHS and the weather. A complete Non Sequitor as usual.

The US just can't get it's head around the problem. More napalm they yell, bigger bombs, spend more trillions on defence ( which is really attack ) etc. No dear allies that is completely wrong.
Do you who frequently uses fallacies abound, know the logical meaning and proper use of "non sequitur". Your statement about non-sequiturs is completely irrelevant. There is no other statement to say that "this does not follow from that". I brought up the weather in one post. In another, I responded to your obesity comment.
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I talk about why Americans are so disliked abroad and chicken brains is off about the NHS and the weather. A complete Non Sequitor as usual.

The US just can't get it's head around the problem. More napalm they yell, bigger bombs, spend more trillions on defence ( which is really attack ) etc. No dear allies that is completely wrong.
Ad hominem statements galore. You throw them around like bombs.

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Old Jun 28, 2015, 5:26pm   #57
 
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Why would anyone need to pause for thought about England's weather? The picture is true to form. England is $&@! weather as the Middle East is to oil and $$$ and the US is to military power.

Forget the queen, long live the hegemony!
Long live the Queen ( will hhi live to 90 ? -I hope not )and dump the USA's losing rubbish ( hasn't won a war in decades )
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Long live the Queen ( will hhi live to 90 ? -I hope not )and dump the USA's losing rubbish ( hasn't won a war in decades )
You certainly do love your ad hominem propoganda.

Name calling

Changing the subject

Questioning the motives of the opponent

Stereotyping

Citing irrelevant facts or logic

The list of your fallacies goes on and on and ...
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You certainly do love your ad hominem propoganda.
Hillary Clinton is the odds on favourite at the moment for the Presidency. I expect that right wing snake oil salesman will be routing for yet another Bush ? The last one cost $17 trillion but they try and pretend it never was. Ha !
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Hillary Clinton is the odds on favourite at the moment for the Presidency. I expect that right wing snake oil salesman will be routing for yet another Bush ? The last one cost $17 trillion but they try and pretend it never was. Ha !
How is that not an argumentum ad hominem? Need I ask because you are incapable of logical arguments.
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