Psychology Money Management Why Don’t We Keep Stops?

With everything said and written on the subject of stops, it should be given that everyone is conditioned to keep them religiously even before they start trading. No matter what source a newer trader turns to, utter importance of stops will be underlined and emphasized up to the degree that keeping them is heralded as the ultimate key to success. We all heard adages like “Take care of your losses, profits will take care of themselves”.

Do all the stern warnings work? Not really.

Time and again traders blow their stops, widen them in a course of a trade, hold losing position in false hope it will make them whole. If this destructive behavior continues despite all the warnings, there must be deeply rooted reasons for this. As with most trading flaws, failure to keep stops roots in fundamental misconceptions about the very nature of the market and trading. Such misconceptions cause incorrect psychological makeup which, in turn, results in behavioral patterns harmful for a trader’s performance. In order to re-condition oneself it is necessary to work out fundamental, even philosophical if you will, understanding of the market as an environment in which a trader operates.

Let us list and analyze the misconceptions that cause failure to keep stops.

Right action must result in profit.

This misconception stems from misunderstanding of the very nature of the market as an uncertain environment. Newer trader sees a market as a conglomerate of firm links between reasons and outcomes. In such a conglomerate, every reason results in single possible outcome. The simplest case of such link would be “good news – up, bad news – down”. We know it’s not true – price reacts to news in a wide variety of ways.

Similarly, an inexperienced trader applying the setup he knows “should work” expects every trade to be a winner, providing all the components of the setup are right. Have you ever heard complaints like “Everything was exactly like in that book, yet the trade failed”? That is direct result of this misunderstanding. Everything may be right, yet the trade fails – just because markets work in probabilities and not in certainties.

If a system produces certain percentage of wins over time, it’s just statistics – and, as it is always the case with statistics, it cannot predict an outcome of a particular trade. No matter how good the setup is, any given trade can fail. That’s why it’s imperative for a trader to distinguish between two kinds of losses.

The first kind is a loss caused by a trader’s mistake – failure to follow all the rules of system applied, or impulsive entry without any reason at all. Such losses must be taken as a lesson. The second kind is the case where every piece of puzzle was in place, yet the trade failed – such losses must be written off as a part of trading game, as a tribute to uncertainty of the markets.

Of course, if you identify a component of your trading system that regularly causes trade failure, you can and should tweak your system in order to minimize failures. However, during the trade a stop must be taken as soon as signal of failure appears. The line of thinking “The setup was so good, it must work eventually” is a disaster waiting to happen.

Failure to perceive the market as an uncertain environment can result in another misconception:

Losses can be eliminated.

In a paradoxical way, this erroneous notion leads to more losses. A trader tweaks his system endlessly trying to get rid of losses completely. In such constant adjusting and re-adjusting, the system evolves into something totally different, losing its original logic, or even stops producing entry signals at all. As a result, a trader either abandons his system, which was not a bad one to begin with, or in a worst case, simply refuses to take losses. After all, he made his system so perfect by eliminating all the reasons for failures, it just MUST work! Meanwhile, had he stayed with original approach, maybe with some minor tweaks, it would continue producing steady results.

My trade is who I am.

This is one of those hidden subconscious misconceptions that cause us to refuse to take our stop. A trader perceives the result of his trade as a reflection of his personality, his abilities. A trade failure makes him feel as though he is a failure. Winning makes him feel "right", while losing makes him feel "wrong". Nobody likes to be a failure, to be wrong. That’s why, in order to avoid being wrong, we refuse to take our stop. You can be right and still lose on this particular trade. You can be wrong and win, too.

It’s important to differ between good and bad trade, and we will be back to this later, in the Random reinforcement part. At this point it’s important to separate your self-perception from the result of your trade. Taking a stop loss, you are stopping your loss – nothing foolish about that. The major trigger for the right approach here is a realization that by accepting the market as an uncertain environment, we already have accepted the possibility of losses. If we haven’t expected the market to work in our favor every time, there is no reason to feel foolish when it doesn’t.

A loss is just a paper loss until it’s taken.

This is a big mistake in thinking. If a loss gets out of hand, it’s very real. It paralyzes you, it clouds your judgment, and it makes you miss plenty of other opportunities. Instead of taking a pre-determined loss and moving on to another trade, you sit and watch your losing one, twitching in pain and feeling remorse. Your chance to take a small stop is long gone. You are agonizing now over big one that is going to deplete your account too much and inflict serious emotional wounds. You hardly notice many other opportunities. The market has moved on, other sectors and stocks are in play, and you still nurture your losing trade, hating it and not being able to finally drop it. At some point you will ask yourself "Why was this trade so important to me? What made me hold onto it?" And this takes us to the next common error:

Putting too much importance into single trade.

A newer trader tends to see each trade as overly important, as if it’s going to make or break him. The market is an endless stream of opportunities. The next trade is right around the corner. No single trade is so important that it would be worth abandoning all other opportunities. Perceive your trading as a process, not as separate events. With the correct approach trading becomes natural, like breathing. Each entry is inhale, each exit is exhale. Breathe in and breathe out. Don’t choke yourself trying to hold onto each given breath.

Random reinforcement.

This is an important concept to understand. The market is not always rewarding right decisions and punishing bad ones. The practical implication is that a trader runs a risk to stop applying propper techniques if he sees wrong ones being rewarded sometimes. Take a stop, observe a stock reversing and going into profit zone – and you get tempted to skip your stop next time. If you try it and it works, there is significant chance that you continue doing just that – the bad habit gets reinforced. You may win several times by breaking your rules. What happens eventually is that one trade that does not reverse destroys your account. It’s important to define what good and bad trades are. Unlike many think, a good trade is not always a winning trade; a bad trade is not always a losing trade.

- A good trade is a trade where you kept all your rules that you know to be working in a long run. A good trade can be a winning one when the market acts accordingly to what your system indicates. It can be a losing trade when the market acts against it, but it’s still a good trade.

- A bad trade is a trade made against your better judgment, against your rules. It can be a losing trade when a market acts as it “should”. It can be a winning trade when the market rewards your bad judgment, and it can be a very dangerous trap as a bad habit gets reinforced.

The last thing to say in conclusion is that a certain psychological barrier for a trader to overcome to start applying his stops with no hesitation. When this barrier is taken, things suddenly become so clear and automatic that a trader can’t even believe it was ever a problem for him. When this barrier is overcome, you feel that stops became natural part of your trading, that you take them with no slightest hesitation and forget about them instantly, moving on to search for your next trade, that taking stops do not trigger any negative emotions. This is wonderful feeling of total self-control. Not only will it do plenty of good to your trading performance, it’s a very rewarding feeling in itself.
 
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Rob, Am I right in thinking you're referring to the expanded spreads with spreadbetting? Since the spread is larger than it is on the underlying cash or futures product I always halved the spread, and added/subtracted that from the the logical stop I'd planned for the share etc itself.
 
travelerbtad

THis article reads like a self-description. I relax stops, set them too high and watch my options rise after being stopped out or I set then too low and lose profits. I can't figure out where to put stops. I'm new at options and make all the mistakes spelled out in the article. This will help me be more aware.
 
Very Good, I wholly approve, and completely sympathise with the sentiment....However....Valid and well meaning as it is, and indeed well written, the message delivered therein is inevitably doomed to fall on deaf ears yet again.

It will fall on deaf ears. Why?

The article is a good observation of traders' behaviour. At the same time he is not offering a specific technique how to deal with the issue - maybe he is not a professional psychologist?
 
You are taking about me!

Very well said. It is very hard to overcome all these psychological barriers.
 
Ignoring stops is something a lot of traders fight with. It is tough for some to realize that trading is simply an odds game that is repeated over and over. Moving or ignoring stops happens through the desire to be right and then reinforced when a trader sees their stop hit only to watch the price reverse. The brain works by trying to avoid pain - loss is a pain event. If someone sees that the pain could have been avoided (aka stop out to reversal), they learn bad behavior. What they often do not realize is the huge losses that would have been realized on many trades had the stop not been used - meaning the stop did its job.
 
love/hate and back to sort of love relationship with stops

you start with using stops because of the fear of the market and with a stop you know exactly what you will lose(plus perhaps another few points which your broker will tell you was slippage due to volatility but amazing how there is never any slippage with limits).then there is the added anxiety of sitting there watching the price getting closer and closer to your stop until finally a sense of relief,your stop is hit and your out of the market.
and then you know what happens....the market turns in which would have been your favour.all too often the price doesnt rip through your stop,which would make it slightly more tolerable but barely gives it a kiss,the kiss of death,before reversing.
after watching this happen all too often and falling into a state of despondency you think fk this and stop using stops altogether,lets see what the market can do now,how much more could you possibly fk me.
for a short while this can work,theres no anxiety of being stopped out and your in trades longer.you watch them go against you,past now where your stop would of been, but wait a minute whats happening ,its reversing in your favour and you even manage to close out in profit!
have you stumbled onto the holy grail of trading? fk no!
it'l work awhile before this strategy also loses you a fortune,before where you were being stopped out for 10-20 points,it stops reversing and now your losing 60/80/100 points because you dont know when to cut it.
damn,i cant believe ive written so much and gotten only half way.i think i need a ghost writer.
so anyway,
call me a skeptic but its known to happen,stop hunting anyone?
so my solution to this problem is to be a better trader.try and make better entries,i dont use hard stops cos spikes come from no where to take them out and then quickly fade.And use mental stops!
 
wow

great article - issue is after trying for 7 years for a consistent profits - i now know why - !
 
Experience in the markets creates an understanding of many principles

This article is outstanding in my opinion.
Many new traders want to become an instant success, but truth is it will take much hard labour and toil within the market environment to get an understanding of self and how markets work.
There is no shame in starting from the beginning just as a child has to in its learning and development.
The thing though being an adult is that we can be impatient and greedy. Our greed and impatience causes us to treat with contempt the process of learning.
There is wisdom in a multitude of advisers. We just have to seek knowledge and understanding and be able to make adjustments to our thinking as we go on our journey learning each day.
 
An excellent article, well written, good ideas, and i could see my own subconscious mind battling it out over this subjetc.

Kind regards Shane.
 
From my own experience and learning, the only reason I never used to keep stops was because I didn't really understand where to place them or how to identify how to. The market has many levels and I was never really certain.

It was only after I was shown how to identify these key areas that I could use stops confidently and effectively.
 
"No body can make you lose the amount of money you lose. Only you can do that to yourself" - A quote from the documentary film - Floored.

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