What kind of trading things can be offered here?

toptrader0

Junior member
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I guess is logical for some people insult before see the prove???...

I will repeat something: if is not real I know Holy Grail, then why I said I can prove it before you do any payment? It is impossible it is not true if I give you proves first. If I do not have proves, then why I offered you these before you do any payment?...

If is not real, why I am offering, for example, a Top trader will support this, before any payment? Just because you are feeling difficult that a famous Top Trader will support this, that does not mean at all that is not true. That only mean you can lose this just because you are preferring not believe in this (before I give you the prove I offered you...).

I can not say the 3 steps and start receive offers because, as I told you before, I need to have permission first for public the 3 steps here. But remember this (this is only for you know it is true): the second step is I will give you the prove for you know this is real before you do any payment (is not this a good deal?... is not this a transparent deal that I offer you the prove before any payment?... is not this the ideal process and the process you prefer if somebody offer you Holy Grail?...). That mean that you will not close the deal until you know first this is true.

I tell you this: the prove I will give you is enough for you know it's true.


PS: I would prefer to not say thing I already said. I would prefer, for example, not said a top trader will support this. I would prefer just give you this in the step 2. Just thing about the logic of the deal: you will not close the deal until you know first this is true.
 

Lightning McQueen

Moderator
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You are wrong in both case. And you insulted me. I made a serious question, and you just said that. You can say nothing. I guess something about your ego.

I know this, and some day I will dominate it. Right now I am offering to people must want this (most people just will not do it because is very difficult). The interesting thing about make this offer is that, after I made it, all I am receiving here is answer of some people saying this is not true, before see the prove (and I said I can prove it). I guess some of you do not care about the prove, just talk and say is not true. You prefer say no before the prove, and later tell your self it was not true for feel better. Why you did not wait the prove?...

If someone say to know the holy grail, must be lying just because you do not know it??? perhaps nobody in the world knows just because you do not know it???

If someone know Holy Grail, and ask if he can offer it, the logical response is to kick him out, just because you do not know it and are thinking that if you do not know that means no one else knows it???

Why you did not wait the prove?... Why not test me???

All I want is just know if I can offer this, but you just prefer to insult me, according to your believe about yourself. I guess because you do not have the money, and you will not get this anyway.

Why not endure your envy, because maybe someone else will have it.
look chum, if someone else wants your grail secrets they are welcome to have it. though the inevitable posts rolling in complaining they've been conned should add to the festive fun.

you've already been told by admin that you can't post your advert for your grail secrets. yet here you are still here trying desperately to get the advert on :confused:

just trade your grail and make your fortune, no need to share with anyone, easy. though you can't, as most here know, so you have to sell it.

good luck with it (y)
 

neil

Legendary member
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Grail ********

I am surprised the Mods have not banned you. However,your blatant attempt to con people is so obvious they have probably left your scribbles online for the amusement of those that may pass this way.
Having said that, I confess that I have the real holy grail method but I am not going to sell it or give it away. Why? Because I am a mean spirited tight wad:LOL:
Christmas spirit -Bah bumhug !
(whisky is okay though)
 

toptrader0

Junior member
23 0
...you've already been told by admin that you can't post your advert for your grail secrets...
Where?
If an admin tell me I can not offer this here, I just stop this right away.


I guess you are refering to this?:

I won't support you on this one
He said that for answer to this:
I know is holy grail, and as I told you before, I can prove it, and a very, very well know top trader will support it. .
Then, he is saying that he is a Top trader and he will not support it, without know what I have. That could mean he is another person saying is not true I know holy grail. I do not know if he is an administrator because he answered to the top part, not to the offer part.

Now I am thinking is possible malaguti is an administrator. If he is an administrator, and he said no to offer this, of course, I will stop right away. But how can I now he is an administrator if he answered, not to the offer, but the top part.

I am not trying desperately to get the advert on against the decision of an administrator. I look first to speak with one administrator and I did not know how. Then, what I did was to asked "if I can" publish this here because I did not find administrator email. People start to ask (others to insult) and I answered. And I never published nothing.

And, is not possible you are telling this just because of what I answered you when you insulted me just because you wanted:

...you've already been told by admin that you can't post your advert for your grail secrets. yet here you are still here trying desperately to get the advert on...
Where?
 

Lightning McQueen

Moderator
4,916 780
Where?
If an admin tell me I can not offer this here, I just stop this right away.


I guess you are refering to this?:



He said that for answer to this:

Then, he is saying that he is a Top trader and he will not support it, without know what I have. That could mean he is another person saying is not true I know holy grail. I do not know if he is an administrator because he answered to the top part, not to the offer part.

Now I am thinking is possible malaguti is an administrator. If he is an administrator, and he said no to offer this, of course, I will stop right away. But how can I now he is an administrator if he answered, not to the offer, but the top part.

I am not trying desperately to get the advert on against the decision of an administrator. I look first to speak with one administrator and I did not know how. Then, what I did was to asked "if I can" publish this here because I did not find administrator email. People start to ask (others to insult) and I answered. And I never published nothing.

And, is not possible you are telling this just because of what I answered you when you insulted me just because you wanted:



Where?
post 2 and also post 5 where admin point you to read the site guidelines.

all of which conveniently ignored by you.
 

toptrader0

Junior member
23 0
I am surprised the Mods have not banned you...
Hello neil. How are you? If someone offers holy grail here, should be banned , just for ask if he can offer it?

I understand that an administrator tell me I can not offer it, But to be banned for ask if I can offer it...

...I confess that I have the real holy grail method but I am not going to sell it or give it away. Why? Because I am a mean spirited tight wad:LOL:
...[/QUOTE]

I know Holy Grail too (is not a system). In my case, I am offering to 3 people.

Why not?
 

toptrader0

Junior member
23 0
post 2 and also post 5 where admin point you to read the site guidelines.

all of which conveniently ignored by you.
post 2 and also post 5 where admin point you to read the site guidelines.

all of which conveniently ignored by you.
It was not conveniently ignored by me:

The first time I ask if I can offer the holy grail here was in the 3rd message, so the second did not respond to that. Very logic, right?

In the 5th message Tim told me I can not because it goes against the guidelines, although I did not find it, I do not know if he is an administrator, and later he told me I can send him a MP and an email...

And it is not convenient for you to try to say I'm ignoring the rules on purpose after I responded to your insult?... I know you did not like my response.

You insult me. You can not just insult because you 're not believing in something. You can said you're not believing it, but you can not just insult because you want.

Any way, I will not write anything here. I just will find the guidelines, and if I see I can do it, I will ask where Can I speak with an administrator for ask him first. Is not fair be thinking I can not do something that I can, just because you will not have it.
 

timsk

Legendary member
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Hi toptrader0,
I'm afraid I'm getting increasingly confused by your responses to both my posts and to other members who have contributed - such as Lightning McQueen, above. So, allow me to introduce some clarity. . .

Reading your posts, I sense that English isn't your first language. Nothing wrong with that, T2W welcomes everyone. So, maybe your understanding of the term 'Holy Grail' is different from the understanding generally accepted by most members. Individual members will have their own take on what it means but, in broad terms, I'd describe it as:

'A trading methodology that does not rely upon individual knowledge or skill. It can be taught to anyone and, once understood, it can be used ad infinitum to treat the market as one’s own personal ATM. It is risk free and unlimited profits are guaranteed.'

1. As per my definition above, there is no Holy Grail, period.
2. If you agree with this definition, then whatever it is that you're trying to sell, it's not the Holy Grail.
3. If you disagree with this definition, then you're not selling what most people think of when they use the term 'Holy Grail'. Ergo, it's not the Holy Grail!

Irrespective of whether or not you think your products and services are or are not the Holy Grail (based on the definition above), you can't sell them here. I hope this is very clear and removes any confusion surrounding your enquiry.
Tim.
 

toptrader0

Junior member
23 0
he's gone to pm now, desperately trying to con members perhaps?
You do not know me. If I am sending MPs desperately making the offer, say it.

The only 3 private conversations that I have are these:

One was to malaguti, because I was thinking he could be an administrator, and it was for asking him if he is one administrator, and to explain him I am not broker any rule on purpose. He told me that it was not, and you can ask him.

The other person was someone who made ​​me an offer before you made this mess, and we talk about a different deal, not about sell it (then, there is no problem there).

The other is with timsk because he told me I cand send him a MP, and he told me: "In the highly unlikely event That I can not do that and you That convinces me it 's the real deal , after eating my hat I'll Become One of your customers myself and I guarantee you 'll Have absolutely no trouble at all in finding another two ". Of course I can do it, even without he make an offer first because I want to know if is true. But I think now I will need authorization.
 
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toptrader0

Junior member
23 0
Hi toptrader0,
I'm afraid I'm getting increasingly confused by your responses to both my posts and to other members who have contributed - such as Lightning McQueen, above. So, allow me to introduce some clarity. . .

Reading your posts, I sense that English isn't your first language. Nothing wrong with that, T2W welcomes everyone. So, maybe your understanding of the term 'Holy Grail' is different from the understanding generally accepted by most members. Individual members will have their own take on what it means but, in broad terms, I'd describe it as:

'A trading methodology that does not rely upon individual knowledge or skill. It can be taught to anyone and, once understood, it can be used ad infinitum to treat the market as one’s own personal ATM. It is risk free and unlimited profits are guaranteed.'

1. As per my definition above, there is no Holy Grail, period.
2. If you agree with this definition, then whatever it is that you're trying to sell, it's not the Holy Grail.
3. If you disagree with this definition, then you're not selling what most people think of when they use the term 'Holy Grail'. Ergo, it's not the Holy Grail!

Irrespective of whether or not you think your products and services are or are not the Holy Grail (based on the definition above), you can't sell them here. I hope this is very clear and removes any confusion surrounding your enquiry.
Tim.
Hello Tim. Now I know you are an administrator here because you have "staff" on your profiles. Then, because you said that, I will not offer this and I will not say anything else in this forum (at least, of course, I have a permission from the forum).



If somebody make me an offer for buy me this, you are losing your time.
 
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