pedro01
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Recently - on a thread who's name shall not be mentioned (OK - it was this one). A member put up a chart of an ETF.
Now - I do hold ETFs and am currently going through the process of exiting all of my mutual fund holdings to put into ETFs too. I also have a bit of an understanding of how the ETFs work.
The point I'd like to make is that traditional technical analysis or in fact ANY technical analysis breaks down when you look at some instruments. For ETFs, the instruments are exchange traded, you could actually quite easily pull one up on a stock screener & then start applying technical analysis.
The thread in question was about Natural Gas and an ETF that attempted to track gas was used to discuss where gas was headed. The concepts of S&R were mentioned as well as volume. Neither of which can be relied upon with a commodity ETF.
First of all, the volume represents people trading in the shares of the ETF. Unless the ETF presents a large portion of that commodities volume AND the ETF needs to issue new shares because of additional volume then the actual volume traded in relation to the price of the ETF is largely irrelevant. The moves of the underlying will move the ETF price regardless of ETF volume. It is the job of "Authorised Participants" to attempt to keep the price & value of an ETF in line.
Also - some ETFs do not buy the whole index that they track, they use sampling techniques which leads to tracking errors. By law, UITs are not allowed to re-invest dividend payments in stocks and therefore in bull markets, they will tend to lag. As such - the chart that you see on an index tracking ETF will not really be an ideal thing to use when looking for S/R, breakouts etc.
I just thought I'd mentions this because sometimes, a chart may not be showing you what you think it is showing you. Hence, I think it's always worth understanding the underlying instrument before going in on a TA driven trade.
Rant over.
Pete
Recently - on a thread who's name shall not be mentioned (OK - it was this one). A member put up a chart of an ETF.
Now - I do hold ETFs and am currently going through the process of exiting all of my mutual fund holdings to put into ETFs too. I also have a bit of an understanding of how the ETFs work.
The point I'd like to make is that traditional technical analysis or in fact ANY technical analysis breaks down when you look at some instruments. For ETFs, the instruments are exchange traded, you could actually quite easily pull one up on a stock screener & then start applying technical analysis.
The thread in question was about Natural Gas and an ETF that attempted to track gas was used to discuss where gas was headed. The concepts of S&R were mentioned as well as volume. Neither of which can be relied upon with a commodity ETF.
First of all, the volume represents people trading in the shares of the ETF. Unless the ETF presents a large portion of that commodities volume AND the ETF needs to issue new shares because of additional volume then the actual volume traded in relation to the price of the ETF is largely irrelevant. The moves of the underlying will move the ETF price regardless of ETF volume. It is the job of "Authorised Participants" to attempt to keep the price & value of an ETF in line.
Also - some ETFs do not buy the whole index that they track, they use sampling techniques which leads to tracking errors. By law, UITs are not allowed to re-invest dividend payments in stocks and therefore in bull markets, they will tend to lag. As such - the chart that you see on an index tracking ETF will not really be an ideal thing to use when looking for S/R, breakouts etc.
I just thought I'd mentions this because sometimes, a chart may not be showing you what you think it is showing you. Hence, I think it's always worth understanding the underlying instrument before going in on a TA driven trade.
Rant over.
Pete