in 20 years of trading. I'm not associated in anyway with this group, but the service and the trading system that they show you everyday is very, very impressive. Go to www.cfrn.com to sign up. This group shows you the monthly profits it's making from their system and after you listen to them for awhile, you will know that they are not hiding anything. They are christian based and happen to have a great trading program. I don't think you can get the results this group gets anywhere. If I'm wrong, please let me know.