Slashing and bashing Unfashionable Advice

[ZDO]

Socrate's JFTB was littered with spins, hits, fights, personal jabs, etc – even after moderator cleanup.
The originator and serious participants deserved better.
Out of respect for the intent behind Unfashionable Advice, I had an idea that we could open up a stream of c for all of the irreverent and irrelavent stuff we might need to dump and enjoy -
leaving the actual topic for his contributions and ‘on-task’ work and Q&A.

I would also ask that the moderators ‘break bad’ on the cr@p early and hopefully
that will also keep the thread just a little bit ‘cleaner’

So I’ll start with a stab (Soc please don’t take it personally - it’s a joke)

 

[ZDO]

More than 50 posts already and no bug stories – what’s up with that?!

 

[ZDO]

“Animal tracks. Not scat or paw-prints. Just the gentle indentations on the forest floor which indicate small animals have gone this way…”
Looks like we skipped right over the bug stories and went straight to the animals tails.

Ah those animals
they’re setting a bad example
living on nuts and berries

 

[rossored]

We'll be happy to keep threads clean, but we are all pretty busy a lot of the time, and hence some things go unnoticed.

Hence, feel free to use the "report bad post" button if you see something that in your opinion requires action or attention.

We may not always reply personally to these emails, but we do always get them.

Thanks.

 

[ZDO]

Rossored,
re:

We'll be happy to keep threads clean ... "report bad post" button ... but we do always get them.

Thanks Rossored. However, ‘Clean’ and ‘discouraging some of the khrapp’ would actually only be a ‘tertiary’ plus for me. We automatically get bot ted into side conversations about articles published here. Is ‘starting a bot’ inappropriate? Or is the occasional riot preferred – so you can knock some heads off?

Here are some comments that illustrate the more primary purposes of this ‘flanking’ thread:
“Is it ‘Tolle’ or ‘troll’? This and all the trading pysche / energy technique topics that rise and fall on trading boards travel along the precipice of what Chogyam Trungpa calls ‘spiritual materialism’... “

Such commentary doesn’t really help or seek help from that thread. It belongs, it’s valid – but it doesn’t belong on that thread. Hence this thread … which, btw, I don’t see ever preventing any sincere, however lighthearted or goofy, posts and contributions to the real thread.
Now I will go and ask a seemingly apt (trick?) question that, in my view, does help or seek help from that topic…

zd

 

[rossored]

I have to confess that you've kinda lost me there.

 

[ZDO]

Rossored,

I apologize. Do you want me to rewrite it ?

zd

 

[Anonymous]

The free homepage sites usually give a certain amount of free Disk Space or Bandwidth. I wonder how much space or bandwidth does each post on T2W take up?

Maybe the slashing and dashing is good for increasing page views.

 

[rossored]

Not a lot.

Rest assured, I would (as would all the mods) be very happy if we could get rid of all the slashing, bashing, pointless posts, posts one after each other mere seconds later (you know who you are!) that require merging, placing into the right threads/forums etc.

Page views or not (which are, lets face it, beneficial from a commercial perspective), I'd rather have good content than rubbish and mud-throwing contests.

I'm open to suggestions if anyone can come up with ways of doing what do, only make it better, easier, or more comprehensive.

ZDO, if you could elaborate?

 

[dbphoenix]

Tolerating the posts doesn't help. To the contrary, tolerance makes more work for the mods both in the short term and the long.

But that's policy, and those decisions aren't made at the member level . . .

--Db

 

[ZDO]

RudeBoy, re "Concentration levels within individuals? Can concentration be taught? Can it be assumed by the individual to a point where they are more bothered about concentration than the actual thing they are supposed to be concentrating on? We all have to think. Self analysis is a component of successful trading. Spend too much time looking at yourself and you miss your real objectives. It's a fine line. The genetic make up of a person throws too many variables and constants into trading. "

That thread is about a process some people must go through. You may be 'unconsciously competent' at it - even blind to the fact that anyone else may have to 'work' at such processes. And even though you eloquently allude to that at the end with "We can all be catagorised, but, we are all too individual for anything more specific. Trading needs different people. All too often an absolute is sought after. There is no absolute." you still discount the whole thread - probably bcse you don't need it. You are correct that there are multiple paths and each of us would be wasting our time on many of the proscribed alternatives. Precision is 'gone' . "It seems as though the human point of view has been deliberately splintered into many fragments, insuring that no one will get a firm grasp of its entirety" (ouran). The path on the 'unfashionable' thread is for a limited few who need just that - so please bring the discounts over here to this thread.

In any event - “To prevent the possibility of exposing ourselves to damage, we need to create an internal structure in the form of specialized mental discipline and a perspective that guides our behavior so that we always act in our own best interests. This structure has to exist within each of us, because unlike society, the market doesn't provide it.” Mark Douglas TITZ Maybe you already got that so well that you couldn't even describe how you do anymore...

zd

 

[chump]

There' s a lot on ASC 's thread to be quietly applauded ..I say "quietly" because it is prescriptive and it clearly will not be 'acceptable' to people who have taken their life down a different route ..no matter , we each make our own destiny in the way we choose and in that sense we bear the fruits from our choices and that is perhaps the way it must be.
I especially liked the references to balance and approach to life made from time to time..I identify with it ...I am what I would call slowly fast ...that is it takes me a long time to arrive at decision points but when i do I become fast...this in turn has meant that i could crystallise my entire financial life into maybe 4 such points...that in turn means that for long periods of my life I have worked away earning practically nothing ..in effect I was working literally for the love of what I was doing knowing that a decision point would arrive when I was ready and 4 such times the money tree got a serious shake that negated all of my periods in the financial wilderness ...this suits me it needs patience and a sense of balance , but I still say I would do this (trading) for nothing but the satisfaction that I derive from it and the way it fits with my overall needs from life. Having money does help though
As Spike Milligan said "all I want is a chance to prove that money won't make me happy" ..LOL

 

[blackcab]

Excellent post chump, agree with it completely.

 

[ZDO]

...lost me... ZDO, if you could elaborate?

Rossored,

Please excuse the time lapse in replying...

My primary purpose for this thread is to respectfully make an appropriate place for me to post thoughts that relate to Unfashionable but are not quite on topic or do not necessarily forward the topic.
My secondary purpose is to invite others to differentiate and discriminate and this gives them a place to put their almost on topic comments, too. Chump’s #12 post is a perfect example of that.
My third purpose is to make a place for myself and others to tear that d!&^ thread a new
A@@&((# if we need to … and some of us do really need to! I have no solutions for that. We are 43,434 jerks... amazingly well behaved... but not without shadow...

Let me know if you need more clarification.

All the best,

zd

 

[ZDO]

Tip for a tiny niche subset of the tiny Unfashionable ‘population’:

Do you feel Aleph may be glazing over the limbic system and emotions to work his angle on the forebrain and recticular activating system connection? Or, instead of getting a zen master, do you feel you must inch yourself toward Aleph’s “irrevocable, unstoppable avalanche which propels you with breathtaking speed (but in only an instant of time) to a quite different level”? Or … emotional probems, too? Or…?
Lester Levinson taught a more procedural path to “hootlessness” that also gave emotions a real place at the table. Are you “hootless” now? Many of us are habitually carrying a compound of control, approval, security, and unity angst, etc in our physical and energic head and body that autopilots our normal daily approach to life. It’s the habitual want (ala Budhism’s trapped monkey) for that compound rather than one’s actual levels and true current needs for those four descriptives that is to be passionately and gradually “released” – before and during ‘moments’ whenever possible, and certainly after. Per individual, per situation, the influence of ‘wanting’ some of these descriptives will be blatantly obvious, but the power of some will be subtle, vague, and only occasionally conscious. The ‘vague’ times are when developing the nonjudgemental watching (in spite of any despairs) starts to pay off.
The ‘releasing’ is not mentally forced. It is a ”benevolent compassion” (ASC) for self. “Could I…” “Would I” LET GO of my newly identified ‘now want’ for my special ‘wish now’ spot on the continuum of security/risk, the continuum of approval/reject, the continuum of controlling/being controlled, the continuum of union/separation? For further info – see The Sedona Method by Hale Dwoskin (book available used on Alibris.com)

HTH
ZDO

 

[ZDO]

and today's short lesson is -
don't make commitments you can't keep...

 

[sulong]

and today's short lesson is -
don't make commitments you can't keep...

How about - Its alright to change your mind.

 

[ZDO]

sulong,

re "Its alright to change your mind":
Sure... however, a commitment WAS made...
Check my posts on the main thread - the short lesson was not directed at him. It was a lesson for all of us. You're speaking in the same vein with "Squalls, doldrums, heavy seas, gear failures, being tired, being cold are the condition for sailing, part and parcel of the commitment to get from here to there -- not enemies to be eliminated, but companions to be danced with. - Unknown "

- commitment ... hey maybe he was committed maybe he just sank !

All the best.

zdo

 

[dbphoenix]

Aleph doesn't/didn't owe you a thing, zdo. Be grateful for what was made available.

--Db

 

[ZDO]

Aleph doesn't/didn't owe you a thing, zdo. Be grateful for what was made available.

--Db

db, I will also refer you to my posts of thanks on the main thread.
It was NOT directed at him.
It's just a small, misunderstood lesson
"Don't make promises you can't keep"

I sincerely apologize if this 'lesson' has wounded anyone.
But why would "Don't make promises you can't keep" hurt?

Have a great weekend.

zd