Pivot Zones

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Another look at pivot

The daily pivot trading method has been around for a long time. It was
originally used as a simple arithmetical guideline to help floor
traders perform their daily monitoring and trading operation. The pivot
calculation set is very practical as it comes in a horizontal line format -
the same format which determines our profit or loss. In horizontal
format, charts get easier to be read and imagine in our head when we need
to monitor the market without watching it. In this minimal form, the
pivot is a deceptively simple but powerful and reliable tool to trade
with. However, it has several problems.

There seem to be multiple interpretations to use the pivot set - as
there are also several types of pivot calculations from the classic
7-point pivot to the very detailed 10-or-more-point complete with mid-area
support and resistance. There are also multiple methods to perform trades
using the pivot points. Some enters only with the bounces on support or
resistance points and some perform breakout entries on those points.
Anyhow, the fact that pivot has more than 1 line makes the whole system
to be more complicated than its original form. Watching the market
bounce or crosses 1 very thin line can be very frustrating, let alone 7 or
even 12 – especially when they’re very closely placed to each other! As
a mechanical discretion method, it's definitely not helpful - as market
may do the tango over them and leaves us completely baffled with our
trading decision.

Pivot should be returned to be viewed at as directional threshold to
market's movement. In this context, pivot is the final boundary for
market direction to expire and change. This boundary’s format should be as
simple as ONE horizontal line. After all, the term 'pivot' itself should
speaks for itself and not be distorted. If it's trading above the
threshold then we should logically accept (by globally accepted commonsense
premise) that price is trading upward - and the opposite, if below the
threshold. Trading along this universal concept will never go wrong.

Another problem with the single-price pivot output is the fact that
market is not exactly precise. In reality, market flutters, ranges, and
whips. The market is not always in nice small range - just like the ocean
isn't always calm. Therefore, when we compare the razor-thin 1-pip
precise pivot price compared to the market's movement - most of the time,
we'll have an extremely difficult time determining the market's
direction as it approaches and crosses the pivot.

To solve this issue, the thin pivot line can be expanded to accommodate
the market's flux in the form of a buffer zone. The pivot buffer zone
should be calculated to adapt to the latest market volatility as
breakout confirmation needs to be done by comparison toward the market's
fluctuation range. This way we can actually define/identify pivot crossing
easier and clearer. As the task of crossing identification is made
easier, so is the brain's logical procedure of determining market's true
movement. The result: easy and reliable trading technique with precise
entry & rigid risk control.

In addition to its basic trading functions, the straightforwardness of
the pivot principle can be applied further as a reliable tool to
track/monitor the market. As the pivot represents the market’s directional
threshold, the shifting behavior of these day-to-day thresholds can also
be interpreted as the condition in which the market is moving. Movement
is simplified into an easy-to-read format which is clearly legible in
intraday timeframe. The advantages: precision entry/risk control in
intraday timeframe and the convenience of being able to monitor bigger
movement from a relatively precise time scale.

The pivot alone (without the support and resistance) can be a very
powerful tool – if viewed and used properly. Add simple trading method,
precise entry & risk control, and market analysis capability and you will
have a remarkable instrument for trading the market.

Lets talk..... :cheesy:
 
hello mate, does your pivot buffer straddle either side of the conventioal 1 pip pivot or sup/ res. line or is it a varying amount based on volatility purely above or below the conventional lines? for example pivot at lets say 1.7432 buffer pivot zone 1.7427 -1.7437 or pivot buffer zone 1.7432-1.7442 ? I realise that the depth of buffer zone may vary depending on volatility you say is that necessary ?

and what would be an average since pivot buffer inception of the expanded pivot line ?

jd
 
jsd said:
hello mate, does your pivot buffer straddle either side of the conventioal 1 pip pivot or sup/ res. line or is it a varying amount based on volatility purely above or below the conventional lines? for example pivot at lets say 1.7432 buffer pivot zone 1.7427 -1.7437 or pivot buffer zone 1.7432-1.7442 ? I realise that the depth of buffer zone may vary depending on volatility you say is that necessary ?

and what would be an average since pivot buffer inception of the expanded pivot line ?

jd



Jsd

average pivot zone wide: 20-40pips,yes depth depends from volatility,its NESESSARY.
I trade pivot zones from 2001 and i never need nothing more to cach all big market moves.
2 digit risk 2 digit reward.Thx to stops behind wide pz you may follow small and big trends up to 5-7days without been stopped.
Husky
 
FOREXHUSKY said:
Jsd

average pivot zone wide: 20-40pips,yes depth depends from volatility,its NESESSARY.
I trade pivot zones from 2001 and i never need nothing more to cach all big market moves.
2 digit risk 2 digit reward.Thx to stops behind wide pz you may follow small and big trends up to 5-7days without been stopped.
Husky


Hi Forex,

Could you please explain how you determine the pip width of your pivot zone on a day to day basis ?

Thanx
 
I think the term 'volatility' explains it all - try doing deeper
research on that subject. The thickness adapts itself to the latest market
'mood' using a special calculation, so to speak. It's not expanding
symmetrically to both side of the conventional pivot - it depends on the
market's directional tendency as well. So it's not just simply expanded.
But the concept that I've posted pretty much explains the basic premise
& its practical use.

Good luck.

ForexHusky Team
 
Simple rules working the best

Simple rules for pivots was always sell below buy above,stops on oposite site of pivot zone.

Well so far i cant post nothing about my pivot system so i will hold until admin will give me permission for links to my last trades.

If you will do some digging in threads you will find tutorial of my pivot system.

And people trade plz. demo demo demo,stop asking me "i have 5k to invest how long it will take me to made 100k"-its madness until you will not master your skills your account will become 0 faster then you can imagine.

Greed kill all non experienced traders,emotions are our worst enemy here.
First find system with suits you,then find group succes. traders and beginners with trade same thing,use them as your support group-work togheter ..create community.

"Don't wish it was easier.Wish you were better"-Jim Rohn

And maybe you will come from street to palace.

All good to you traders.

Husky
 
Tokyo

Hi Traders

Many emails and same questions over and over so some answers here:

1.performance is on website

2.my start capital was 25k in 2001,then in from 2002 i trade full time

3.I dont see nothing strange in made huge income from 25k(need to follow 2 rules consistant profit more or close to 10% monthly,and compound interest on account by minimum 40-50months)

4.Negs i can always invite to my yahoomesenger web cam,and show how traders live large :cheesy:

5.I dont belive in past performance-never ever market is doing same steps,thats why we post daily screenshots from actual trades.

6. I consider trading sup/res bounces as very profitable,just need to have good levels and master your skills.Money mann. is key to dont keel yourself during draw downs(we all have bad days in trading)

7.I dont recommend no Brokers other then i know from many years,i dont recommend no expensive educational cds

8. I never say P.Bain talking bulsh...,i personaly use pivots from many years,but i dont recomm.hes page or hes courses,nothing rong in taking 7 days free info trial.

Ok i hope it will help

Husky
(sorry for my english)
 
Hi Husky:

In PLAIN ENGLISH, why cant you explain your pivots setup in brief, "Where is the BEEF"
Thanks
Zee
 
A very cynical person would suggest it had something to do with wanting to take you to another place and charge you for the pleasure.

Actually, such a cynic would wonder how FH got back on this board.

Not being cynical I see this all as a wonderful opportunity for new people to learn an old lesson. Enjoy :D
 
Indeed.

Forexhusky, we were due to receive a communique from you last week regarding your posting back on the board. As yet, we are still waiting.

This thread - as far as I can see - doesn't actually contain any useful information, other than being a bit of a tease as to what may or may not be on offer.

As such, I have closed it. If you could write to me explaining its purpose and the reasons it should stay open, we may consider re-opening it.
 
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