Modern communism in an old democratic house

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Xi Jinping spoke in the Canberra parliament today.

Much of the speech was I love you and we love you, blah blah blah

But there was future insights in the speech.

China growth forecasts.

China becoming socialist democracy in the next 50 years.

And the worry from the rest of the world with China power and growth.
 

Splitlink

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Xi Jinping spoke in the Canberra parliament today.

Much of the speech was I love you and we love you, blah blah blah

But there was future insights in the speech.

China growth forecasts.

China becoming socialist democracy in the next 50 years.

And the worry from the rest of the world with China power and growth.

There are a lot of prosperous (and happy) looking Chinese tourists knocking around Barcelona these days and, I suspect, the rest of the world's tourist spots, too They have come a long way from the days of Mao's long march.

They must be doing something right. Feeding off Western greed for cheap Chinese products? It is beginning to appear that we can live with them, after all. They appear so different from the Russians we see,who seem to be all oligarchs and not so nice.

I have an idea that the Chinese government--- although they appear to be in charge, because of the billions in the population--- are holding a tiger by the tail.
 
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Pat494

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The democracy movement in Hong Kong must have shaken the Old Guard in Beijing to the core. Even with the local news blackout, other areas will have heard about it and want some for themselves.

Another world when I used to work there in the 1960s with Red Guard riots to dodge getting to work. They were hungry for wealth too even in those days.

As Winston said something on the lines of democracy being pretty poor but the best available currently.

If only those dangerous psychopaths in the Middle East would hurry up and kill themselves and then the rest of us could have better lives.
 

Splitlink

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The democracy movement in Hong Kong must have shaken the Old Guard in Beijing to the core. Even with the local news blackout, other areas will have heard about it and want some for themselves.

Another world when I used to work there in the 1960s with Red Guard riots to dodge getting to work. They were hungry for wealth too even in those days.

As Winston said something on the lines of democracy being pretty poor but the best available currently.

If only those dangerous psychopaths in the Middle East would hurry up and kill themselves and then the rest of us could have better lives.

Talking of Hong Kong, I saw a travelogue documentary last week, where the camera went behind the scenes, to see how the poor survive.

i can't describe it, it was appalling. Completely different to the bad conditions in
Africa, etc., these people are all on top of each other. Someone preparing a poor man's rice dish at one end of the kitchen counter (with an electric mixer), while another has his tv at the other end and, a few feet away, another is flaked out in a narrow bed, while another is walking up and down inside his own patch.

China has its work cut out to improve any quality of life for this lot.
 

montmorencyt2w

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I guess they were always natural capitalists, so it was only a matter of time.

Not natural democrats though.


But what China did when it embraced capitalism (but not democracy) was a more extreme version of the "window guidance" used by Japan and the eastern tiger economies, in their most successful days, and what Germany also did post WW2.

However, they have made some of our mistakes, e.g. property bubbles, and so there will probably be pain ahead.
 
 
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