Is Twitter the new Reuters?

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To what extend to you all think that social media, and specifically the "reporting" of "news", (quotes intended as derisory), impacts the markets longer term?

Two recent examples:

- The slating of William Hague over Libya
- The risk of Nuclear fallout in Japan

Both were/are totally exaggerated by use of things like twitter, where you have Car mechanic Dave Smith and his Hairdresser wife Sarah (accompanied with 12yr old Jack and 8yr old Britney) reporting from the thomas cook hospitality suite in sharm-el-sheik on the socio and political situation, and likelihood of a retaliatory coup d'état, in egypt. Or the correct way to handle a clandestine insertion of a team of SAS and MI6 officers into eastern Libya in order to establish links with the rebel group, and no doubt arrange for appropriate support to be made available to them. Or on how likely a nuclear fallout is ***ushima and what the consequences could be.

I mean, free speech and all, but we've all played chinese whispers, right?

is Twitter the new Reuters?

Not, I hasten to add, because of the quality of reporting. In that regard, reuters are a world leading news agency, and twitter will remain the sum of its parts. But, much like playground rumors spread like wildfire, the proliferation of media outlets has created a force of twitter (et al) users who just seem to report whatever they hear from someone else.

In the short term, there is negligible effect, but lest you forget that these people can vote, have ISA's, pensions, mortgages, credit cards and household bills. And if twitter slags of William Hague enough, you can expect him to be "re-shuffled" (look at the situation with Kan and Jack Bauer now).

I don't actually mean that twitter is a substitute for reuters, but that "alternative' news sources are gaining a significant amount of influence even if the credibility of the "news" that is reported doesn't punch it's weight.

what do you think?
 
twitter is a bubble :)

people gonna get very very bored of it I think


maybe I'll turn out to be wrong...
 
twitter is a bubble :)

people gonna get very very bored of it I think


maybe I'll turn out to be wrong...

I've never used it, but it already bores me to tears.

An appropriate cure for this strange mental illness might be to chuck tw@tters into C wing where they keep the sex offenders, and let all the lifers and gang bangers loose on them.
 
What pisses me off most is lazy journalists peppering stories with quotes from it.

Anyone doing that should be shot
 
What pisses me off most is lazy journalists peppering stories with quotes from it.

Anyone doing that should be shot in the genitals and left in a ditch

Fixed that for you. You left the end of your sentence off for some reason. :)
 
What pisses me off most is lazy journalists peppering stories with quotes from it.

Anyone doing that should be shot

yes arabian thats what made me think about it.

I mean you can say they're all tw@tters or whatever, but going on from what you said earlier - twitter isn't a bubble in itself, it's a petri dish for bubbles :/
 
Reuters isn't above the odd bit of tabloidism. It got a fair bit of criticism today for describing 'panic' in Tokyo. The FT and *gulp* The Grauniad seem to be the most sober reporters of current events.
 
Unless you trade the news, or want to avoid timed economic news releases, what's the point in paying attention to the news whether it be from Reuters or Twitter?

Journo's are about as reliable at reporting fact as Barry & Candice are in Tripoli airport IMO. Marvel at how well journalists understand nuclear physics given current events - appaling.
 
Disposable pop tech yoof culture crosses over to mainstream, popularised by old farts, yoof move on to next cool post modernistic tech fad bull$hit site.
Anyone remember Myspace...

Now watch Zuckerberg & spacefook turn into the next Bill gates and Micro$haft.
I'm knackered, cynical and couldn't be arsed to think of anything more constructive :)

Never used any of them myself, not that you'd ever guess :clap:
Seriously though, agree with pretty much all OP points.
 
I don't actually mean that twitter is a substitute for reuters, but that "alternative' news sources are gaining a significant amount of influence even if the credibility of the "news" that is reported doesn't punch it's weight.

what do you think?

Agree, although a lot of this is to do with newsroom budgets being absolutely slashed, so there are very few real journalists on the ground anymore. Cheaper to have an intern checking Twitter trends, than an experienced war-correspondent holed up in some hell-hole.

Anyone wonder why the BBC insists on blowing our licence fees on shipping newsreaders out to the latest exotic location when it adds absolutely no value relative to them being at home? This morning listened to James Naughtie interviewing people in London from Tokyo ffs.
 
Reuters isn't above the odd bit of tabloidism. It got a fair bit of criticism today for describing 'panic' in Tokyo. The FT and *gulp* The Grauniad seem to be the most sober reporters of current events.

but reuters tabloid/quality is probably equivalent to twitter quality/tabloid


* and you get some pretty stupid people in markets live/long room sometimes... been a few months since I made a visit but ..er.. Taxloss, praxis22 and LadyEconomist I thought were OK. alot were chumps all asking about Gulf keystone or summit :/
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but reuters tabloid/quality is probably equivalent to twitter quality/tabloid


* and you get some pretty stupid people in markets live/long room sometimes... been a few months since I made a visit but ..er.. Taxloss, praxis22 and LadyEconomist I thought were OK. alot were chumps all asking about Gulf keystone or summit :/
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Alphaville is brilliant, IMO. Although a bit like T2W you soon learn to differentiate among the contributors, the Howards from the Arabians if you like.
 
Unless you trade the news, or want to avoid timed economic news releases, what's the point in paying attention to the news whether it be from Reuters or Twitter?

Well, i'll sorta skip this bit


Journo's are about as reliable at reporting fact as Barry & Candice are in Tripoli airport IMO. Marvel at how well journalists understand nuclear physics given current events - appaling.

Yes, that's the thing; you get people talking about something they know nothing about.... but Barry and Candice are whats actually behind the economy believe it or not. If Barry and Candice are convinced that double A batteries are made in same japanese energy plant then sell Duracell!! It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy the more frequently the "news" is reported


comments in red :)
 
Alphaville is brilliant, IMO. Although a bit like T2W you soon learn to differentiate among the contributors, the Howards from the Arabians if you like.

yes you're right, Alphaville is good, and a bit like trade to win i suppose. been some very bad stuff but also very good stuff (if though not that applicable to me, I think you are UK equities? so it's probably quite good for you (y))
 
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Originally Posted by robster970 View Post
Unless you trade the news, or want to avoid timed economic news releases, what's the point in paying attention to the news whether it be from Reuters or Twitter?

Well, i'll sorta skip this bit

It's largely irrelevant for the way I trade. That's not to say that I don't pay attention to what's going on - that's all I was illustrating here. Getting the gist of what's going on just requires any old source IMO

Journo's are about as reliable at reporting fact as Barry & Candice are in Tripoli airport IMO. Marvel at how well journalists understand nuclear physics given current events - appaling.

Yes, that's the thing; you get people talking about something they know nothing about.... but Barry and Candice are whats actually behind the economy believe it or not. If Barry and Candice are convinced that double A batteries are made in same japanese energy plant then sell Duracell!! It becomes a self fulfilling prophecy the more frequently the "news" is reported

I know what you're saying but after absorbing so much news whilst watching how markets behave over a long enough period of time, you do develop a sh1t filter for stuff don't you agree?
 
I know what you're saying but after absorbing so much news whilst watching how markets behave over a long enough period of time, you do develop a sh1t filter for stuff don't you agree?
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Yeah, there are wires that on an intra day basis are worth listening to and there are wires that are not.

But Barry and Candice aren't likely to ask Platts if they should get a diesel or petrol motor, they probably don;t even know about Peston (no bad thing). But if twitter. facebook etc are all re-tweeting (or whatever) Sun Says - "QE means inflation so buy GOLD!!!!!" means that, well, you get the idea.
 
I do see what you are getting at - all Twitter is doing is democratising news without filtering again - it's the 21st century equivalent of village gossip.

What's probably more important is what value do news agencies add now given that their news gathering networks are being eclipsed by t'internet? Is it filtering? Is it niche news? I think the problem is that news and media is struggling to create an identity for itself and provide value.
 
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