High Frequency Trading Is Increasing More And More

Much misinformation, such journalism

These people literally have no clue what they are talking about. HFT is algorithmic trading. Not all algorithmic trading is HFT. And HFT doesn't mean front running like he claims. There's various types of HFT algorithms. Look them up on MIT and Harvard websites. I could make a MA crossover system and they would add it to their statistics of HFT to scare people into something that doesn't even exist. Without HFT, day trading wouldn't even be possible in most markets.
 
hello hhiusa,

yes it is since a long time i saw a documentary about it before a while back was interesting in good explaining of how its exactly effecting the finance market in one way or another you can see it on YouTube its called " The Wall Street Code (Marije Meerman, VPRO) "

not to mention most of traders nowadays are scalpers i do the scalping & swing trading myself but its not the exact way of high frequency trading as the HFT is more intense to the market when scalping seems to be normal .
 
Much misinformation, such journalism

These people literally have no clue what they are talking about. HFT is algorithmic trading. Not all algorithmic trading is HFT. And HFT doesn't mean front running like he claims. There's various types of HFT algorithms. Look them up on MIT and Harvard websites. I could make a MA crossover system and they would add it to their statistics of HFT to scare people into something that doesn't even exist. Without HFT, day trading wouldn't even be possible in most markets.


What garbage are you rambling on about little boy?

Day trading has been around for decades in many different forms in markets around the world long before HFT ever existed :LOL:


Please DO tell it like it is :LOL:

MORE PLEASE, I WANNA LEARN
 
Much misinformation, such journalism

These people literally have no clue what they are talking about. HFT is algorithmic trading. Not all algorithmic trading is HFT. And HFT doesn't mean front running like he claims. There's various types of HFT algorithms. Look them up on MIT and Harvard websites. I could make a MA crossover system and they would add it to their statistics of HFT to scare people into something that doesn't even exist. Without HFT, day trading wouldn't even be possible in most markets.

I would personally not consider a MA crossover to an algorithm. It has no form of automated reasoning, since it has does the same two things regardless of input; buy or sell upon cross-over. If we were to slightly alter it so that it continually changed its' parameters for cross-over to increase accuracy over time, then I would consider it an algorithm.

Interesting source for various algorithms and their problem solving uses.
http://www3.cs.stonybrook.edu/~algorith/

Additionally, I was only stating the "fact" that computers are performing trades more and more using complex rule-based system (algorithmically) due to the fact that people can access the market quicker than ever before. I think you have it backwards @drtro, day trading had to come before HFT as technology would dictate. We didn't have super fast computers or super fast connections to allow for HFT 30 years.

Creation of ECNs 1969

Founding of NASDAQ - orders placed electronically 1971

Appearance of "market makers" 1971

https://cobweb.business.nd.edu/Portals/0/MendozaIT/Research/Shared%20Documents/Nastraq/Nasdaq%20Stock%20Market%20Historical%20Background%20and%20Current%20Operation.pdf

So you see, people have been day trading ever since you could place orders electronically.

I ask you @drtro this, how you could trade HFT before the advent of day trading without computers? People were actually allowed to buy a stock on a certain day, which might take up to 10 days to clear prior to the NASDAQ being founded and sell those shares before the buy trade had cleared within the same day. This was essentially day trading without the use of a computer and with the use of a NYSE specialist - someone who would place the order at the exchange floor for you.
 
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Much misinformation, such journalism

These people literally have no clue what they are talking about. HFT is algorithmic trading. Not all algorithmic trading is HFT. And HFT doesn't mean front running like he claims. There's various types of HFT algorithms. Look them up on MIT and Harvard websites. I could make a MA crossover system and they would add it to their statistics of HFT to scare people into something that doesn't even exist. Without HFT, day trading wouldn't even be possible in most markets.

I would recommend to read the book "Flash Boys" by Michael Lewis.
HFT with faster connections to the many purposefully disseminated exchanges is all about front running and even better if Black Pools are involved, then nobody is accountable for the scam, and ordinary people like pensioners loose greatly when the funds in which their put their 401(k) have to pay more due to being front run by the HFF boys. The next scandal waiting to explode is the whole mis-"management"??? of the private people funds like 401(k) set aside for the retirement, poor armies of hopeful, but stupidly innocent people will find that their honey pot is much smaller they hoped for. "Money Master the game" by Tony Robbins is a good introduction on that subject.
HFF is unlikely to bother small traders whose orders are simply too small to front run them.
Simple questions remind still unanswered:

Why HFF firm exist? (for certain they are not charitable outfits to benefit your pension:LOL::LOL::p)

Why there are Black Pools? (to churn your funds without you and any regulatory authority knowing anything about it, apart of knowing that it happens and it is allowed to happen:LOL::LOL::LOL:)

Why there are so many exchanges trading that same securities? (So faster connections to these exchanges makes sense to HFT, otherwise speed will be of no advantage and if lets say a given security was trade-able only at one given exchange , there would be less likelihood of being front run:idea::whistle:eek:)

Surely whatever establishment there is, this arrangement prints licence for creaming activity like HFT and other "churning your account" common practices.

It does not matter where you are you need to choose very wisely how you invest, or trade and to whom you entrust your capital to be managed. Without doing homework on that you are most likely heading for great disappointment.
 
I would recommend to read the book "Flash Boys" by Michael Lewis.
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HFT with faster connections to the many purposefully disseminated exchanges is all about front running and even better if Black Pools are involved, then nobody is accountable for the scam, and ordinary people like pensioners loose greatly when the funds in which their put their 401(k) have to pay more due to being front run by the HFF boys.

I won't even begin to try with that one.:rolleyes:

The next scandal waiting to explode is the whole mis-"management"??? of the private people funds like 401(k) set aside for the retirement, poor armies of hopeful, but stupidly innocent people will find that their honey pot is much smaller they hoped for. "Money Master the game" by Tony Robbins is a good introduction on that subject.

How backward are you calling those people "stupidly innocent". You sound even less intelligent on the subject than you make them out to be. Not everyone in the army is stupidly innocent.:-0:-0

HFF is unlikely to bother small traders whose orders are simply too small to front run them.


Simple questions remind still unanswered:

You seriously need to spell check or else use google translate, especially if you are going to look down upon somebody about something you clearly do not know enough about. Maybe you do and are having trouble articulating it. "Simple questions still remain unanswered"


Why HFF firm exist? (for certain they are not charitable outfits to benefit your pension)

Pension funds and HFT firms have nothing to do with one another. Pensions are most likely not being managed by HFT firms. Pension fund managers have fiduciary responsibilties to their clients to not invest in such a risky manner. There isn't anything uncharitable about proprietary trading firms. They each have their place in the market.

Why there are Black Pools? (to churn your funds without you and any regulatory authority knowing anything about it, apart of knowing that it happens and it is allowed to happen

There is nothing inherently bad about "dark pools". They are so named because the details concerning the trades are not disclosed to the public. They are mostly just trades executed and cleared away from central exchanges. I posted earlier about Instinet, Liquidnet and NYFIX for dark pools vendors.

Where on Earth do you come up with this garbage? They are not black pools, they are dark pools. You need to find a better translator or write in your native language. I could see how a translator would translate dark and black. They are similar in many languages such as Japanese.

There are broker dealer dark pools: JPMX, LX Liquidity Cross, etc.
Consortium owned: BIDS
Exchange owned: NYSE Euronext, BATS, Turquoise, ...
...

Why there are so many exchanges trading that same securities? (So faster connections to these exchanges makes sense to HFT, otherwise speed will be of no advantage and if lets say a given security was trade-able only at one given exchange , there would be less likelihood of being front run:idea::whistle:eek:)

No buddy, they wouldn't. Someone with low-latency access can place and execute a trade within 50 milliseconds. An algorithm watches the exchanges and sees a huge amount of orders entered into the limit order book for a given stock XYZ. For most traders, their orders will be executed much slower, especially if they use retail firms like TDAmeritrade, Charles Schwab, Trade Station, Options Express, and the like. The algorithm will see this and then place and execute trades before them. When the trades from the slower traders finally are executed it will cause a micro boom and bust effect, increases the value momentarily. The algorithm then sells out and causes the floor to drop out. Now the slower traders have bought higher. There is nothing wrong with this practice. Anyone with access can do this.

Surely whatever establishment there is, this arrangement prints licence for creaming activity like HFT and other "churning your account" common practices.

I still have not seen anything remotely resembling an explanation from you as to how you think this is "churning your account". Maybe you should take some responsiblity for your trade losses.

It does not matter where you are you need to choose very wisely how you invest, or trade and to whom you entrust your capital to be managed. Without doing homework on that you are most likely heading for great disappointment.

I think this should go without saying. If you haven't figured that last part out before trading, then you are seriously in need of some education and not just about finance.
 
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