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california securities sa in panama a scam
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Just want to know if they are genuine
Just want to know if they are genuine
I would very much like to correspond with thistleboon (25 May 2008 message).
CSSA was registered by a lawyer Guevara (Chairman) in about 1997 in Panama. Known to have a small capital of 10,000USD. Had a lawyer Philip T Powers in Chicago (SEC has him before the courts for boiler room-connected activity and more} who organised a loan from a Jersey Island bank to allow CSSA and Pacific Continental Securities Ltd England (Closed and fined) to buy most of Laserlock Inc shares which were sold through boiler room activity (at much larger prices than they were paying for them) in Germany and England (these have since lost their licences). Philip held shares for CSSA (we have seven different addresses for this company in USA & Panama) as 'custodian' and later asked share owners for money for 'safe custody'. Later again CSSA Panama wrote to shareholders asking for 'safe custody' money OR forfeit their shares. Philip's pal Lichtenfeld (directors in the same company) wrote 'independent' analyst reports lauding the value of the shares....talk to me I know more...
CSSA was registered by a lawyer Guevara (Chairman) in about 1997 in Panama. Known to have a small capital of 10,000USD. Had a lawyer Philip T Powers in Chicago (SEC has him before the courts for boiler room-connected activity and more} who organised a loan from a Jersey Island bank to allow CSSA and Pacific Continental Securities Ltd England (Closed and fined) to buy most of Laserlock Inc shares which were sold through boiler room activity (at much larger prices than they were paying for them) in Germany and England (these have since lost their licences). Philip held shares for CSSA (we have seven different addresses for this company in USA & Panama) as 'custodian' and later asked share owners for money for 'safe custody'. Later again CSSA Panama wrote to shareholders asking for 'safe custody' money OR forfeit their shares. Philip's pal Lichtenfeld (directors in the same company) wrote 'independent' analyst reports lauding the value of the shares....talk to me I know more...
Cssa
Jim
Dear Grant, I have 5 addresses for CSSA in Panama and two addresses in Chicago. I have Powers as share custodian, share holder, company lawyer, negotiator of a loan to CSSA, agent for A-Street Capital, Sec and VP of A-Street, [President was L Lichtenfeld who also appears to be Principal of Global Corporate Analysis Inc. Strangely CSSA, A-Street Capital, Global Corporate and Powers all appear to have shared the same address and suite number in Chicago. Can you say if your were affected by any of their actions or the actions of IS Intersecurities?:?:
Jim
Guys, I was affected by these guys too, do we have recourse to contact the German authorities regulating them at the time, essentially intersecurities sold me 10,000 intelisys shares and unbelievably these are now worth 2.5 to 1 with China Yida, with a value today of $40,000 dollars, yes $40,000 dollars. Is there any way the German authorities as regulators of these people will recognise the fraud? or do we indeed still hold the shares somewhere?
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ellio, please e-mail me. I am in contact with a number of victims and would like to share what we have done with you in exchange for information on 'bought contracts' you paid for. About the current share prices, it is necessary to go into the share reverse splits etc that have occurred. before deciding on the market value of them....Jim
Cyid
Ellio, I am confused, I have been looking at so many, e-mails memos and discussion Boards.
First off, do I know you by some other name? If you confirm your e-mail to me I will attach a short report I did on China Yida some time ago for someone else. There was 100:1 reverse split some where back. Did you receive my e-mail message with the official response I got from Switzerland?
Jim:?:
Ellio, I am confused, I have been looking at so many, e-mails memos and discussion Boards.
First off, do I know you by some other name? If you confirm your e-mail to me I will attach a short report I did on China Yida some time ago for someone else. There was 100:1 reverse split some where back. Did you receive my e-mail message with the official response I got from Switzerland?
Jim:?:
Thanks ellio, APTA holdings incorporated 1999,bought by ARCA Corp 2002, changed name to Intelisys, Filed as IASA in Delaware july 2003, filed for insolvency 2006, residue called NEWCO bought Kenway Nov 2007, new symbol IAVA Dec 2007, changed name to YIDA, feb 2008, adopted new symbol CYID Feb 2008 following a 10:1 reverse split. A change of name or symbol usually is accompanied by shares splits or consolidation. A bit of work might turn up further details on this. If you seek the value of your shares from the company you will have to tell them what is on the certificate, date etc (the certificate number would help them). We have a group looking into these matters (we have copies of four 'bought contracts' trades for this company) with which you may wish to associate yourself. We have been in contact with FSA, BaFin and other authorities and feel we are making some if slow progress. We would be happy to exchange information on whom you dealt with, dates, addresses and of course a copy of any bought contracts from the German firm(s). Your identity will not be devulged to any party without your particular agreement.....Jim
China Yida
We have been on to FSA who feel its not their business, Our continuing contact with BaFin is being stonewalled, our contact with the German Bar association is meeting heavy weather and our approaches to the Insolvency court and Berlin police is at a snail's pace....let me know if you wish to join our group....Jim
Re: China Yida - inteli-sys
I have read the annual return for CYID and they state 10:1 reverse split in Feb 2007 AND a 10:1 reverse split in Nov 2007 {and another 10:1 for Feb 2008 but this might be a typing mistake} Depends on the date you traded. Maybe there was another 2.5:1 split forward or backwards very recently? Could you let me see your 'bought contract' copy? I could not get through to the company.
You could take the certificate to a broker and ask what the sale price would be.
We have alot of correspondence with FSA and BaFin but no joy yet. We feel we might be getting somewhere along the road.
I have read the annual return for CYID and they state 10:1 reverse split in Feb 2007 AND a 10:1 reverse split in Nov 2007 {and another 10:1 for Feb 2008 but this might be a typing mistake} Depends on the date you traded. Maybe there was another 2.5:1 split forward or backwards very recently? Could you let me see your 'bought contract' copy? I could not get through to the company.
You could take the certificate to a broker and ask what the sale price would be.
We have alot of correspondence with FSA and BaFin but no joy yet. We feel we might be getting somewhere along the road.
Ellio, the last SEC annual return by this company effected two 10:1 reverse splits (the report gives three but there might be typing error). This would mean a value of either 1% of the quoted value or 0.01%. Ask a broker to get a quotation for their sale.:?:
Hi
I have a paper trail with receipts for monies paid to cover shares in escrow. I dealt with Intersecurities Gmbh who used law firm Agnieszka Lysik and a bank in Frankfurt.
They continued trading as FSW but now have closed completely. I have emails from a former director promising action and answers but so far nothing.My "purchases go back to late 2003 and in totla it is over 50,000 USD.
I have notes for, Atlantic Wine,AngeCiti,Intelisys,City Network,Med Gen,Great West Gold/West Africa Gold,Australian Agriculture,Australian Forest.
Regards
Forestfan, you will have seen my posts outlining our victim actions. Our group has gathered a lot of information and are making some (slow) progress. Please let us know if you are willing to supply 'bought contract' notes to us in exchange for a report on our progress and activities to date. We will not divulge your identity unless we receive your approval to do so for specified purpose. Jim
