Would you mind taking a look at my CV?...

gooseman...

everyone has a degree these days-what makes you different and i don't really want to read i'm ambitious/entrepeneurial etc......that's just my take on things-HR departments might love that sort of guff. personally i don't.

Okay, I'm getting the idea that what makes one different is of interest... but what kind of things... I put in my CV things that I thought would be of interest... an interest and skill in writing various computer algorithms... and other such "geeky" things...

or should it be stuff like... I do all my own work/repairs on my cars/bikes... I'm a bit of an 'idiot' on my motocross bike... etc...

My original plan was demonstrating consistent profitability for 6-months on a live account... and thought that in the meantime I would apply to trading firms... I'm not sure now that I have near a decent enough CV... Hmmmm...


Magnus
 
Depth Trade...

I'll tell you how you get a job, you get so good, these guys come begging to you on there knees!

They're hiring you because they can't accomplish the job, therefore you make them jump through your 'hoops'.

You have them send you applications, for you to trade there money.

Your the one who knows what's going on, stay in control of the situation.


Interesting comments DT... I can see how such a scenario may happen... thinking of trader_dante as an example...


Magnus
 
lol... interesting perspective Xeno...

The entrepreneur thing I just assumed would be of interest purely as it is demonstrable of taking risks - of a kind... laying ones money/time on the line for a potentially bigger payoff... perhaps totally irrelevant to trading?


Magnus

The main purpose of a CV is to get you an interview. If you write, I can do XYZ and my qualities are ABC, then your CV looks the same as everyone elses.

What they ask themselves is - what has he done, and what are his qualifications.

I would leave in the interests, education. technical, ebay and the group project, and get rid of the rest, which is really too wordy. Then, tell them you work offshore on a rig, and what you do, and trade the rest of the time. Then hit them with some hard facts and figures about your trading. Returns etc. They don't want to hear that you keep a record, they want to hear that you make consistent returns and have the record to prove it.

cheers
Xeno

And that's it.
 
gooseman...

all of the big hitters I know started at banks.

Why do you think this is?... Is it a case of ad hoc, ergo propter hoc?... Does the 'grounding' in the bank give them the skills/experience/etc to continue onto such success?... or simply that the type of person to actually make it into a bank is also the type of person that has the drive and tenacity to continue onto such great success?


Magnus
 
Xeno...

The main purpose of a CV is to get you an interview. If you write, I can do XYZ and my qualities are ABC, then your CV looks the same as everyone elses.

What they ask themselves is - what has he done, and what are his qualifications.

I would leave in the interests, education. technical, ebay and the group project, and get rid of the rest, which is really too wordy. Then, tell them you work offshore on a rig, and what you do, and trade the rest of the time. Then hit them with some hard facts and figures about your trading. Returns etc. They don't want to hear that you keep a record, they want to hear that you make consistent returns and have the record to prove it.

cheers
Xeno

And that's it.


I'm seeing that, as in my reply to gooseman, actual results are what would truly count... It's something that is quantifiable and provable... It's interesting to hear that most of my CV is essentially fluff - I fully accept that!... Trading is appreciatably rather different when compared to most 'jobs'... so, in turn, I can see how a CV would be quite different also...

I'm thinking that just following in trader_dante's footsteps is perhaps the best way to go just now...


Thank you for your comments,

Magnus
 
Yuppie i m in a similar situation.I want to be a trader. I spent a lot of time thinking on my future stategies. I left my job at credit suisse madrid private banking , just to come to London and try to achieve this dream. I speak 4 european languages a 6 years full time degree in economics and finance.

I hope that get a job in the city is not 1 in a million as thesheik said...
 
onlysolo...

Hey onlysolo,

That's some considerable commitments you've made... I applaud you!... If you're trying to get into a bank then, from what I have read, it could actually be 1:1000000 odds - or thereabouts... maybe not that bad, but I am in no position to say... :)

I'm thinking more of a prop trading firm - which is a very different thing... as has been mentioned previously, simply demonstrating that you make money trading is pretty much as simple as it gets when trying to get into a trading firm - that's the impression I have got anyway...

After the responses to this thread [thank you everyone (y)] I think I will postpone my applications to the various trading firms on my list... I am going to wait until I have a number of months of consistent profits to show on a live account... not sure how many months yet as I feel this will depend on my winning:loss, how many trades I make, profit %, and so on...

Best of luck to you onlysolo :clover:


Magnus
 
Well...

Well, thank you to all who commented and gave suggestions (both here and via PM)... (y)

I have decided to focus on getting a decent track record over the next 6-months and 'knock-on-doors' with that...


Regards,

Magnus
 
you are going to risk your own money so? i wish you a good luck, i m thinking to do the same think but i would prefer to join a team where i could really learn , they are so much things to learn...lol
 
onlysolo...

you are going to risk your own money so? i wish you a good luck, i m thinking to do the same think but i would prefer to join a team where i could really learn , they are so much things to learn...lol

Thank you onlysolo...

I've done it for a while. I now need to do it more professionally, so that after an appropriate amount of time, I can take it to a trading firm as say, "Look at this, x% profit over the last t months, averaging y% per week, s losing weeks, ... ..."

If one can consistently pull money out of the market I'm sure a lot of trading firms would be very keen... :)

[you also want into a firm? - what about your name onlysolo, not going solo? ;)]

Regards,

Magnus
 
hehe onlysolo is a nick name i m using since i was in college, maybe it is time to change it.

do you have any ideas how to find independent traders here in London?
 
hehe onlysolo is a nick name i m using since i was in college, maybe it is time to change it.

do you have any ideas how to find independent traders here in London?


To be honest onlysolo, your guess is as good as mine... I'm a thousand miles from London (literary :eek:)...

What are you after?


Magnus
 
Recruiters and headhunters generalise very quickly, unfortunility although it probably is a great achievements of yours,

the forklift licence makes you look like a farmer and not a dedicated trader, so please remove.

Its harsh but its true.

If you need any more help then let me know, I used to be a headhunter


[Name]
[Address]
[Contact Details]


PROFILE
A natural entrepreneur who has always dreamt big has lead to an inevitable commitment to become a financial market trader. Strong quantitative abilities matched by an exceptional sensitivity to detail provided a structured initial approach to the markets. Firmly gripped with a passion for the markets while able to maintain a social life provides a healthy, sustainable balance for progression to become a top trader.



SKILLS
Communication & Team-working

- Led the design and build of the mechanical aspect of a group project during my 3rd year of university. The group received special recognition for the mechanical design of a device for sorting various-sized balls. The recognition received was due in large part to an admirable cohesion between the group members during the 9-month project.

- Ability to get along with everyone in all environments is often commented upon.


Organisation, Planning & Discipline

- The creation [and ongoing development] of a 30+ page Trading Plan as an aid to successful trading typically demonstrates approach to a task or problem.

- Maintain a high level of fitness and healthy eating. A strong subscriber to the healthy body – healthy mind school of thought. Recently trialled a strict Vegan diet for 6 months to observe potential physical and psychological benefits.

- Meticulous and structured when researching and tackling projects. A relevant example is through personal market trading. When trading, detailed records are kept by taking screenshots, video capture with commentary of thoughts at the time, writing in a journal both quantitative details and personal thoughts, and replaying the trading day on a simulator.

- For constant self-improvement a detailed journal is kept of various experienced social interactions and situations. This is reviewed regularly. A certain amount of humility is required to view the journal objectively and thus derive benefit.

- A stand-back-and-observe approach is taken toward most tasks and situations. Likes to know where everything is, what is going on and get a grasp of the situation and all possible factors that may have an effect before making a move. Sometimes this approach is disregarded when a calm, quiet confidence if felt about a particular situation.


Analysing & Problem Solving

- Designing and programming algorithms for a vast range of applications has been a long-term pastime. One relatable example was an algorithm that would calculate possible solutions to the ‘Numbers’ game of the well-known Countdown game-show.

- Always enjoyed tackling mental/logic puzzles for the personal challenge. Able to focus with great intensity on a particular problem and a persistent attitude to continue over obstacles to a solution. This has further enhanced naturally strong numerical and mathematical talents.


Entrepreneurial

- Designed and programmed a software utility to access eBay™ databases at a high frequency rate and return listed items through a user-specified filter criteria. This utility was used very effectively to profit from what were essentially mis-priced products.

- A born opportunity seeker, have profited from the buying and selling of a vast range of goods, including a number of cars – many of which were before I was of age to hold a driving license.


Technical

- Programming: Specialised in Java; Proficient in C++, Visual Basic, MQL4 (used on Metatrader trading platform), SQL, XML, ASSEMBLY, HTML, and JavaScript.

- Very familiar with Unix/Linux Operating Systems and a vast amount of experience in most Microsoft Office software including: Word, Excel and PowerPoint.


EDUCATION

Masters in Computing and Electronics (2000-2005)
[University Name]
Certificate of Merit awarded annually.

Highers (1999-2000)
[School Name]
Maths (A). Physics (A). Technological Studies (A).


Licences & Certificates

- Full, clean car, motorcycle and forklift licences.
- Basic Offshore Safety Induction and Emergency Training (UK) - Valid 2008 to 2012.


[Previous Employment]


INTERESTS

- Spend most of available time studying financial markets and the various aspects of trading.

- Regularly read a varied range of subjects including psychology, evolution, physics/science, mathematics, motivation/success, and self-improvement.

- Enjoy running, swimming, weight-training, cycling and playing squash. Derive substantial physical and mental benefits from this that help maintain a balanced mindset for progression toward goals.

- A reasonably active social life ensures a good work/social balance. This helps to ensure no form of burn-out occurs with personal endeavours.


Key Quality #1: Persistent; once a commitment is made to something, it is only a matter of time before it is realised.
Key Quality #2: Coachable; a very malleable, open mind that is able to progress rapidly in any new endeavour.
 
"For constant self-improvement a detailed journal is kept of various experienced social interactions and situations. This is reviewed regularly. A certain amount of humility is required to view the journal objectively and thus derive benefit."

"Recently trialled a strict Vegan diet for 6 months to observe potential physical and psychological benefits"

??? really?? the rest of the cv seems to have some half decent content, although probably filled out a bit too much. Does the interviewer really need to know about your dietary requirements or that you keep a diary of every time you go out and socialise. I think they'd be most concerned with your trading results and past work experience & although they'd like to think you'd get on with everyone else this is not nearly as important.
 
Hi Yuppie, I hope you don't mind comments on your english. While it is normal to write in a casual way on the forum here, and in emails etc. your C.V. should have impeccable grammar, and although I don't want to sound picky, it is an important issue for anyone who reads your C.V..

A natural entrepreneur who has always dreamt big has lead to an inevitable commitment to become a financial market trader.

"dreamt big" doesn't sound nice, and the sentence itself doesn't actually make sense. Why say dreamt big, when you could explain that you are ambitious/driven/whatever. And why would that be inevitable? There are lots of careers you could choose.

Strong quantitative abilities matched by an exceptional sensitivity to detail provided a structured initial approach to the markets. Firmly gripped with a passion for the markets while able to maintain a social life provides a healthy, sustainable balance for progression to become a top trader.

Again, maybe it is just me, but there seems to be a tense problem here. The word "sensitivity" doesn't sound quite right. I know what you're trying to say, but it is not being put across in the way you would like. I don't like the "top trader" part either.

SKILLS
Communication & Team-working

- Led the design and build of the mechanical aspect of a group project during my 3rd year of university. The group received special recognition for the mechanical design of a device for sorting various-sized balls. The recognition received was due in large part to an admirable cohesion between the group members during the 9-month project.

- Ability to get along with everyone in all environments is often commented upon.

Again, saying "get along" is a little bit casual, and not really strong enough. I am not a headhunter, nor an expert in C.V.'s although I do see a lot of C.V.'s in my work. If I read your C.V. I would have the following reactions:

-Language not quite correct (mentioned above).
-Strong technical skills/computer programming, but doesn't sell this enough In particular not enough mention of practical/work experience using these skills.
-Good education
-Too many comments about irrelevant things

"healthy ... balance...high level of fitness and healthy eating...A strong subscriber to the healthy body – healthy mind school of thought...Recently trialled a strict Vegan diet for 6 months to observe potential physical and psychological benefits...Enjoy running, swimming, weight-training, cycling and playing squash. Derive substantial physical and mental benefits from this that help maintain a balanced mindset for progression toward goals...A reasonably active social life ensures a good work/social balance. This helps to ensure no form of burn-out occurs with personal endeavours"

When I write it all out like that you'll see it is overkill. They're unlikely to be interested in any of that. There are other things that you mention that you could probably do without too. Again, I hope you're not offended by any of these comments, but better to get it fixed now than send it off.

You do have good technical skills. You have experience of programming, working on algorithms and leadership skills. You are numerate and have a passion for trading including experience with trading your own account. You're intelligent, educated, easy to work with and a problem solver.

Some of these you convey reasonably well, and some of them you don't. I'd say it needs a lot more work so that you sell yourself more.
 
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For gods sake guys, I used to be a headhunter in Mayfair we are not interested in anything else other than,

1) level of degree and where youv been for it
2) trading stats, returns, sharpe ratios etc
3) track records, or audited results

tips,

if you work in a group then claim all the work as your own
if you want an interview then lie about your returns then do your best in an interview,

remeber no interview NO JOB!!!
 
agree with Calinor...........and kind of agree with mindset although I would say that being a headhunter in Mayfair is vastly different to the people that interview for trading arcades/firms.

In terms of the CV, in my opinion it is far too elaborate. It needs to be succinct and to the point, e.g skills section should be max 10 lines. Also, CV needs to be orientated more towards a trading position, forget the certificates that are not relevant, emphasize the technical/computing skills more (perhaps break it down to advanced, intermediate and basic tech skills - reason being that someone looking at it maybe more interested if you have advanced VBA, C++, SQL skills rather than proficient). Agree with Calinor, Profile section is not as well written as it could be and additionally, some of the skills listed in your skills section could be in the profile, e.g very 1st sentence could be:
"As an innovative, hard-working team-player, I am fascinated by financial markets and aspire to maximise my skill-set and market-experience." Don't waffle, not being unkind but I think you CV has a lot of unneccesary information in it. you should also mention some of your technical/I.T skills in your profile along with products that you understand how to price etc. Emphasize your education more, you have a undergrad and post-grad qualification, make this stand-out. Definitely agree with mindset in that you probably need to exaggerate your achievements coming from non-trading/financial background (obviously don't lie out of your teeth to the point where you can easily be found out but exaggerating facets of your profile in addition to the odd SMALL lie although not honourable, will open the door that little bit more. Plus also, mention your trading system, is it scalable (hint: it needs to be!!). Also, you didn't put down your job history. Need to put that down, again orientate it towards aspects that potential employers would be interested in, i.e numerical/quant aspects, teamwork (again, you can tell a few little porkies but nothing stupid). Also, you said you work on oil rigs, well use that to your advantage i.e (as long as you know) over-emphasize the amount of knowledge you have of the oil/gas market etc.

Anyway, it will no doubt be difficult in this current environment however, it is not impossible.

best of luck
 
Wow!...

mindset, JackSmack, Calinor, chinabean...

I came back to this thread to get my CV removed as it served its purpose and did not want my details up there any longer.

I missed your contributions to this thread until now.

So thank you to those that gave constructive critisicm... (y)

Yeah, time gives perspective. That CV did have some nonsense in it... :LOL:

Mind you, I'd still keep the forklift license in it... I think it shows breadth of... um.. er... well, breadth of something...


Magnus
 
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