Ambrose Ackroyd
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Probably oral, back door approach may not suit Old Etonians.
On the other hand, that was probably par for the course at their school.
Vote Lib Dem ?? Not after reading this !!!!!
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Probably oral, back door approach may not suit Old Etonians.
On the other hand, that was probably par for the course at their school.
For those who don't like the idea of our MPs being beaten up by two proper Englishmen with a golden mace (don't laugh, there might be someone) we're long overdue for a repeat performance of this:
" Furious at what he believed,
perhaps without reason, to be the bad faith of Vane and
the leaders, he called a company of musketeers to attend
him, and with Lambert and other officers, strode silently
to the House. In plain black clothes and gray worsted
stockings, the Lord-General came in quietly and took
his seat, as Vane was pressing the House to pass the
dissolution Bill without delay and without the customary
forms. He beckoned to Harrison and told him that the
Parliament was ripe for dissolution, and he must do it.
"Sir," said Harrison, "the work is very great and
dangerous." "You say well," said the general, and
thereupon sat still for about a quarter of an hour. Vane
sat down, and the Speaker was putting the question
for passing the Bill. Then said Cromwell to Harrison
again, "This is the time; I must do it" He rose up,
put off his hat, and spoke.
Beginning moderately and respectfully, he presently
changed his style, told them of their injustice, delays of
justice, self-interest, and other faults ; charging them
not to have a heart to do anything for the public good,
to have espoused the corrupt interest of Presbytery and
the lawyers, who were the supporters of tyranny and oppression, accusing them of an intention to perpetuate
themselves in power. And rising into passion, " as if
he were distracted," he told them that the Lord had
done with them, and had chosen other instruments for
the carrying on His work that were worthy. Sir Peter
Wentworth rose to complain of such language in
Parliament, coming from their own trusted servant.
Roused to fury by the interruption, Cromwell left his
seat, clapped on his hat, walked up and down the floor
of the House, stamping with his feet, and cried out,
" You are no Parliament, I say you are no Parliament.
Come, come, we have had enough of this ; I will put an
end to your prating. Call them in ! " Twenty or
thirty musketeers under Colonel Worsley marched in on
to the floor of the House. The rest of the guard were
placed at the door and in the lobby.
Vane from his place cried out, " This is not honest,
yea, it is against morality and common honesty." Crom-
well, who evidently regarded Vane as the breaker of the
supposed agreement, turned on him with a loud voice,
crying, " Sir Henry Vane, Sir Henry Vane, the Lord
deliver me from Sir Henry Vane." Then looking upon
one of the members, he said, " There sits a drunkard ; "
to another he said, "Some of you are unjust, corrupt
persons, and scandalous to the profession of the Gospel"
"Some are whoremasters," he said, looking at Went-
worth and Marten. Going up to the table, he said,
"What shall we do with this Bauble? Here take it
away!" and gave it to a musketeer. "Fetch him
down," he cried to Harrison, pointing to the Speaker.
Lenthall sat still, and refused to come down unless by
force. "Sir," said Harrison, "I will lend you my hand,"
and putting his hand within his, the Speaker came down.
Algernon Sidney sat still in his place. " Put him out,"
said Cromwell. And Harrison and Worsley put their
hands on his shoulders, and he rose and went out. The
members went out, fifty-three in all, Cromwell still calling
aloud. To Vane he said that he might have prevented
this; but that he was a juggler and had not common
honesty. "It is you," he said, as they passed him, "that
have forced me to do this, for I have sought the Lord
night and day, that He would rather slay me than put
me on the doing of this work." He snatched the Bill of
dissolution from the hand of the clerk, put it under his
cloak, seized on the records, ordered the guard to clear
the House of all members, and to have the door locked,
and went away to Whitehall."
So we don't even need violence to solve the current impasse. Just the very credible threat of violence.
" Furious at what he believed,
perhaps without reason, to be the bad faith of Vane and
the leaders, he called a company of musketeers to attend
him, and with Lambert and other officers, strode silently
to the House. In plain black clothes and gray worsted
stockings, the Lord-General came in quietly and took
his seat, as Vane was pressing the House to pass the
dissolution Bill without delay and without the customary
forms. He beckoned to Harrison and told him that the
Parliament was ripe for dissolution, and he must do it.
"Sir," said Harrison, "the work is very great and
dangerous." "You say well," said the general, and
thereupon sat still for about a quarter of an hour. Vane
sat down, and the Speaker was putting the question
for passing the Bill. Then said Cromwell to Harrison
again, "This is the time; I must do it" He rose up,
put off his hat, and spoke.
Beginning moderately and respectfully, he presently
changed his style, told them of their injustice, delays of
justice, self-interest, and other faults ; charging them
not to have a heart to do anything for the public good,
to have espoused the corrupt interest of Presbytery and
the lawyers, who were the supporters of tyranny and oppression, accusing them of an intention to perpetuate
themselves in power. And rising into passion, " as if
he were distracted," he told them that the Lord had
done with them, and had chosen other instruments for
the carrying on His work that were worthy. Sir Peter
Wentworth rose to complain of such language in
Parliament, coming from their own trusted servant.
Roused to fury by the interruption, Cromwell left his
seat, clapped on his hat, walked up and down the floor
of the House, stamping with his feet, and cried out,
" You are no Parliament, I say you are no Parliament.
Come, come, we have had enough of this ; I will put an
end to your prating. Call them in ! " Twenty or
thirty musketeers under Colonel Worsley marched in on
to the floor of the House. The rest of the guard were
placed at the door and in the lobby.
Vane from his place cried out, " This is not honest,
yea, it is against morality and common honesty." Crom-
well, who evidently regarded Vane as the breaker of the
supposed agreement, turned on him with a loud voice,
crying, " Sir Henry Vane, Sir Henry Vane, the Lord
deliver me from Sir Henry Vane." Then looking upon
one of the members, he said, " There sits a drunkard ; "
to another he said, "Some of you are unjust, corrupt
persons, and scandalous to the profession of the Gospel"
"Some are whoremasters," he said, looking at Went-
worth and Marten. Going up to the table, he said,
"What shall we do with this Bauble? Here take it
away!" and gave it to a musketeer. "Fetch him
down," he cried to Harrison, pointing to the Speaker.
Lenthall sat still, and refused to come down unless by
force. "Sir," said Harrison, "I will lend you my hand,"
and putting his hand within his, the Speaker came down.
Algernon Sidney sat still in his place. " Put him out,"
said Cromwell. And Harrison and Worsley put their
hands on his shoulders, and he rose and went out. The
members went out, fifty-three in all, Cromwell still calling
aloud. To Vane he said that he might have prevented
this; but that he was a juggler and had not common
honesty. "It is you," he said, as they passed him, "that
have forced me to do this, for I have sought the Lord
night and day, that He would rather slay me than put
me on the doing of this work." He snatched the Bill of
dissolution from the hand of the clerk, put it under his
cloak, seized on the records, ordered the guard to clear
the House of all members, and to have the door locked,
and went away to Whitehall."
So we don't even need violence to solve the current impasse. Just the very credible threat of violence.
Be careful. That kind of thing could land you with a hefty bill these days:
http://www.channel4.com/news/articl...r+twitter+airport+aposbomb+threatapos/3643287
I really must check who came out on top after the Cold War. I thought I knew, but I suspect I got it wrong.
This is priceless:
In a statement, the Crown Prosecution Service told Channel 4 News:...""There is nothing funny about remarks of this nature as they can cause serious disruption to transport services and divert police attention away from genuine crimes."
Er, I'm afraid that there is something funny about it if the remark in question is:
"Crap! Robin Hood Airport is closed. You've got a week and a bit to get your s**t together, otherwise I'm blowing the airport sky high."
And, pace the numpties of the CPS, remarks of this nature cannot cause serious disruption unless people are either terminally stupid or deliberately trying.
