IRAN WMD Watch Movin Up The List

[TWI]

fxmarkets,
The article you posted is excellent and reflects exactly what I have believed for a long time and positioned myself accordingly.
Thanks for the post.

 

[fxmarkets]

No worries mate, I was trying to find more detail on the scehdule of events for the bourse see how the timing of events may unfold, this from the link below might suggest theres a few months for the west to finalise whatever it is they might be finalising.. maybe even longer

"All indications suggested that the Iran Oil Bourse was scheduled to open on March 20, 2006, but according to John Partridge, Investment Reporter for the Globe and Mail, the Iranian Oil Exchange is now unlikely to begin till at least midyear.[1] Quoting Mohammad Asemipur, special advisor on the project to Iran’s Oil Minister, in regard to the opening of the Iran Oil Bourse, Partridge wrote that Asemipur said, “In the middle of 2006, we are able to start the bourse.” Asemipur went on to say, “The plan is to trade petrochemical products first, with a crude oil contract coming last, a rollout that likely will take three years.”

http://www.teamliberty.net/id234.html

I sincerely wish they dont do a number in Iran , and i haven't heard vocally or seen bush visually to see what stance he is currently in and likely to form next and when.

Fx.

 

[fxmarkets]

news all things Iran here.

http://disc.server.com/Indices/61429.html

For news articles on Iran from global sources. Seems to be updated frequently.


Fx.

 

[jezza888]

TEHRAN (AFX) - Iran said Sunday it was digging in for a confrontation with the West over its disputed nuclear programme, vowing that neither UN Security Council resolutions nor US military action could force a climbdown.
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, meanwhile, accused the Islamic regime in Tehran of "playing games" and called on it to come clean and halt uranium enrichment.
"We will not accept any forced resolution," Iran's top national security official Ali Larijani told students at Tehran's Sharif University, the most prestigious scientific faculty in the Islamic republic.
Drawing loud applause, he asserted the country's bid to master sensitive nuclear technology -- for peaceful purposes and not weapons as the US alleges -- was "a strategic objective".
"We will use any means to achieve that objective," he said. "Our programme is to continue research and development in enrichment and to have the nuclear fuel cycle."
"We are ready for all scenarios. The government has set up a committee and has thought about all scenarios. If the situation becomes a military one, we have thought about that too," Larijani said.
On Friday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) confirmed Iran had not complied with a Security Council demand to freeze uranium enrichment -- which makes civilian reactor fuel but can also be extended to make the explosive core of an atom bomb.
The US and European powers are now poised to seek a Security Council resolution legally obliging Iran to halt the work.
Unlike the IAEA, the Security Council has enforcement powers and its beefed-up involvement in the crisis could pave the way for sanctions or even military action.
"If they want to pressure us, our reaction will be to revise our relations with the IAEA," Larijani said, repeating Iran's threat to put an end to crucial UN inspections.
"If you want to harm Iran, you should know that we can also harm you. We are serious about that," he added, several days after supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei bluntly warned Washington of global retaliation in the event of an attack.
Larijani nevertheless said he felt the Americans were "intelligent enough not to carry out such a mad thing".
"It will have no effect on our nuclear programme. They say they will bomb us, but where do they want to bomb? We already have the know-how."
Larijani, a hardliner and secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council, also signalled that work on uranium enrichment was progressing -- with uranium now being enriched to 4 pct purity.
Enrichment to levels of around 5 pct produces fuel for civilian reactors, but enrichment can be extended to make the fissile core of a weapon

 

[kako]

Kako, any info on Irans Oil bourse plans ?

Cheers

Fx.

sorry fxmarkets, didn't see ur post earlier

it's on the way as of i know, but i guess(from what i heared) arabs(UAE) are going to do it faster than us
all the dispute on iranian oil future mkt are about that there's gonna be oil traded for currencies other than USD, i.e EUR. this with chinese engine start of converting national treasuries from USD to EUR, which may continue in other south-east asian countries too, is one of robust reasons why US is trying to make a 2nd iraq in iran. this is serious matter for USD vs. other currencies, which will affect US's politics, economy.

i'm not with our gov when they say they've unfolded all nuclear activities to international authorities; of course they didn't, but this doesn't mean iran could have nukes in 2 years. our facilities are far away from it and all observers of UN declared this several times... it's a 2 side game and seeing it as a 1 sided game where iran is playing hide and US trying to seek, is not true. US has it's own interest in iran(cutted-down long term investment from b4 1979) and now they have enough alliby, or they are trying to strongly imply that in media. if some1 reads the Al-baradei's final report on iran, u may find a gr8 difference between that and what US implying in their media.

anyway we're going to have intl oil futures in iran, in abt 2-3 years for sure.

 

[SAINT]

Euro Denominated Oil

In late 2000, Saddam Hussein announced Iraq had changed to Euro denominated Oil. This meant anyone requiring Iraq's Oil would have to pay in Euros. A WMD for sure.

This represented a problem for the U.S. as currently they have a monopoly on Oil, with Central Banks holding a stockpile of dollars to pay for Oil.

During the current Iraq war, around June 03, Iraq's Oil was apparently converted back to dollar denomination. (FT 3rd June 03)

The recent Iranian Oil bourse represents another headache for dollar denominated Oil, but with 5.8% of exports not a major headache. However, on 10th May 06 Vladimir Putin stated that Russia is to set up a Euro or Ruble denominated exchange to allow greater transparency.

This means that another 15.2% of world exports would no longer be bought with dollars. Countries such as Venezuela and China have shown some support for this. Taking into account the level of debt that the U.S. has, it may not be able to withstand such an amount of dollars being sent back to the states without some repercussion. A more transparent oil market would also pose problems for oil companies' bottom line.

Investors may wish to begin preparing for the PetroEuro or PetroRuble.

 

[dick_dastardly]

Kako

You still around ?

What's your opinion on the election result ?

dd

 

[Atilla]

Kako

You still around ?

What's your opinion on the election result ?

dd

Sames as Bushes result - rigged probably...

An Iranian friend of mine told me that Ahmedinejad favours placing his relatives into important ministerial posts. Apparently he wanted to appoint one of his cousins to be in charge of the army but got rejected when the Iranian Army finally set enough is enough.

I'm not sure he has as much support as he thinks he has based on that piece of news.

This is likely to fester for the next few months and years now. I would guess things will get worse before they get any better. Roll on the great depression...

If it does escallate oil price will go up - dollar will fall and gold will pass the $1000 very soon.

 

[dick_dastardly]

I heard mobile phone sevices, internet, TV stations, certain News Papers have been shut down in Iran.

If Kako still a member maybe he can't log on to the net today.

You Atilla draw parallels with Bush, to me it's starting to look more like Hitler and the Nazis in 1930's Germany.

dd

 

[Atilla]

I heard mobile phone sevices, internet, TV stations, certain News Papers have been shut down in Iran.

If Kako still a member maybe he can't log on to the net today.

You Atilla draw parallels with Bush, to me it's starting to look more like Hitler and the Nazis in 1930's Germany.

dd

Parallel's the same.

In California they had two polling stations 500 yards apart for 200 people with big cars. In Alabama you get one polling station for 10,000 people - with no cars, 5 miles apart with couple of booths. That's why many people were queueing for hours late into the night to vote.

Capitalism & our democracies far more advanced and subtle than the Iranians... End result is that democracy is skewed by wealth. Perhaps those with bigger interests should have a bigger say. I don't know. Maybe it's fairer that way. I mean perhaps we should be led by the examples set by our politicians... :cheesy:

Coming back to Iran - I reckon those hard liners have got some hard thinking to do.

I reckon the opposition is thinking on their next move. I really would like to see the opposition leader on the streets with the people to see how the Iranian authorities then respond.

 

[Splitlink]

why shouldnt iran be allowed to develop nukes?

israel was allowed to develop them under the table, so why not iran as well?

if you look at the number of un and human rights violations committed by israel vs iran, and the record of aggressive actions to neighbouring territories, it is easy to see that israel is the greater danger and more likely to use them.

sure iran is a volatile place, and its not ideal letting them have them, but if we are going to let israel get away with it, then we should be fair and let iran have them too. otherwise the middle east just feels victimised and will fuel terrorism.

if i had my way though, id roll in the tanks to israel, take away their wmd's, give paletine their land back, restore world peace, then make sure iran dont get them either.

problem solved.

The longer this goes on, both with Iran and with N.Korea, the more trouble we are making for ourselves.

I believe that we should drop the democracy and "they have the same rights" BS and send stronger warnings out while we are, still, strong enough to do it because, if we don't, there will come the stage--as with the Nazis-- when what we have tried to avoid will become inevitable.

Are we going to allow that to happen again? Is Obama another Chamberlain when we need a Churchill or a Thatcher? Let's forget that the last two named were not "likeable" people with working class interests at heart.

We need someone strong right now. The Russians never had any doubt about what would happen if they crossed the line. The problem was that America allowed them to get to the stage where they had a nuclear bomb and the means to deliver it. Fortunately, they resolved their own problems. Will the Arab nations do the same? In my opinion, Obama and Brown don't cut it.

 

[dick_dastardly]

I really would like to see the opposition leader on the streets with the people to see how the Iranian authorities then respond.

All those 60% of the population that are under 30.

Back in the 80's Iranian women were instructed by the then Ayatollah to produce children for future soldiers in the Iran/Iraq war.

Now all those kids have grown up with an appetite for western culture and don't like to be told what to do by the old men with beards.

Love it :cheesy:

What goes around......

dd

 

[blancspa]

g morning..
I hope you don`t mind, dd and atilla

I reckon the opposition is thinking on their next move. I really would like to see the opposition leader on the streets with the people to see how the Iranian authorities then respond.

This is very unlikely. Iranians know that revolution would bring chaos and weaken the country irreversibly. Is never the young people leading the country. The opposition leader has already congratulated the winner. What`s happening now IMO is the opposition trying to force president - elect`s administration to give up some of the power and bring the opposition in. I am not a specialist on Iranian politics, but this somehow resembles Iraq and Afganistan. Iran I believe will try to avoid it at all cost.

g` day

 

[Atilla]

g morning..
I hope you don`t mind, dd and atilla



This is very unlikely. Iranians know that revolution would bring chaos and weaken the country irreversibly. Is never the young people leading the country. The opposition leader has already congratulated the winner. What`s happening now IMO is the opposition trying to force president - elect`s administration to give up some of the power and bring the opposition in. I am not a specialist on Iranian politics, but this somehow resembles Iraq and Afganistan. Iran I believe will try to avoid it at all cost.

g` day

Good fair point and I can see how that all sounds sort of reasonable and perhaps the decent thing to do but Ahmedinejad's infested government will need to give up posts. I can't see it happening. Also, if Mousavi has won the election why should he concede to second place?

This sounds more like what Zimbabwe's been trying to do trying to appease Mugabe but he is a bit of a stick in the mud.


I've been reading about invisible ink being used in the Iranian elections as lots of votes appeared left blank.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: 62.6%
Mir Hossein Mousavi: 33.8%
Mohsen Rezai: 1.7%
Mehdi Karroubi 0.9%
Turnout: 85%


What's going on here???

 

[blancspa]

I wonder why western media didnt report anything about nationalist fasci police force in Milan, set out to clean up the streets from immigrants? They wear SS like uniforms and quazi-nazi flags. I thought nazi fasci parties are banned in Italy.
Poor Iran will probably face same fate as his neigbours. And was such a great country once with plenty of wealth around. Hope not.
evrything is somewhat suspicious to me, smells like KFC a bit

 

[SAINT]

Now all those kids have grown up with an appetite for western culture and don't like to be told what to do by the old men with beards.

Love it :cheesy:

What goes around......

dd

Obviously you're falling for the continual spoon feeding of the western media which wishes to demonize Iran and depict it's people as opressed. Iran has been on the watchlist of U.S hegemony since 2001 due to it's huge oil reserves and it's unwillingness to toe the line of the all conquering fiat currency. After the blunders of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars they are too stretched and despised to use military force and will welcome any unrest to try and install a western friendly government.

 

[Atilla]

Obviously you're falling for the continual spoon feeding of the western media which wishes to demonize Iran and depict it's people as opressed. Iran has been on the watchlist of U.S hegemony since 2001 due to it's huge oil reserves and it's unwillingness to toe the line of the all conquering fiat currency. After the blunders of the Iraq/Afghanistan wars they are too stretched and despised to use military force and will welcome any unrest to try and install a western friendly government.

What about the elections and the majority vote representing the will of the people???

imo Iranian people are oppressed by virtue of what we are witnessing. There is a distinct battle between the clergy and the young popullace. During the 79 war they encouraged everybody to have babies. The very clergy who advised a baby boom are now wondering if they did the right thing.


I concur re:demonisation of Iran as axis of evil as pure Bush BS and the selling oil in Euros as a major factor hurting US $ standard interests.

Perhaps if the US took care of it's own business and strengthened the dollar - sorting out their twin defecits they and us would not be in all this pooh we are in now.


Bundling & mixing up events here does not help clarity or serve justice imo.


If the revolution does not happen now it will happen in 20 years time once the old codgers who think they know best become extinct.

 

[squall321]

Also, if Mousavi has won the election why should he concede to second place?

Al Gore did.