How much has your MP claimed?

.......Yes...now watch for a huge PR coming form these MPs.......feeding their children from dust bins.....going hungry and haggling at Tescos......sleeping in bunk beds in Parliament.......harworking MPs sleeping rough in London streets.....women MPs accosted and nearly raped while taking train home......battered and torn MPs bags.......threadbare suits with patches on knees....etc etc...

True... its already started.. recently read an article in BBC about MP's getting shrink "consultations" as they are feeling "low" after all these scandalous things have come out :rolleyes:

No prizes for guessing who will foot the expense for that! :cheesy:
 
....Well I will elect my neighbour as he is a moral, learned, ethical individual and his heart and mind in right place....

....But then he does not want to be an MP...!...In fact he was rather annoyed when I suggested that he should try to get elected as an MP....!

I know really decent people that went into local politics determined to do what's best for the community and rise above all the usual party political manoeuvrings. They were very naive and wanted to be a breath of fresh air but just ended up getting exploited by all the old heads ( from all political parties ) that had been in the game for years.

Initially they were very frustrated by the way they were used and undermined. After about three years or so they evolved into the typical slippery, dodgy, slimeball type politicians interested only in winning the game of local politics no matter what the consequences. Doing the right thing has become less important for them.

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To make a slightly serious point, entertaining, and possibly important enough in its own way as "Troughgate" is, isn't it a wonderful smokescreen for a number of other, much more important issues facing the country and the world?

If we are going to have parliamentary reform, it needs to be about much more than expenses, e.g.
PR
All-elected upper house
Banishment of lobby interests
Reduction in power of the whips (the parties won't like that, which means it must be a good thing)
....and no doubt a few other things.

However, the most important longer term issue is "peak oil", even more important that climate change in many ways, although clearly related. While there is still a certain scope for argument about man's contribution to climate change, there can be little doubt that we are running out of oil and natural gas, that we depend upon these for almost everything in our current way of life, and that the projected alternatives cannot replace all of the ways in which we use them.

e.g. Purely fossil-fuel-free electricity may eventually be able to provide most of our energy needs for transport, manufacturing, heating, cooling and cooking, for example, but what about plastics, fertilisers, lubricants? An electric car will still need tyres and with current technology, each tyre needs about 7 gallon's worth of oil, and a significant amount of plastics is needed for interiors, etc.

Many other resources, significantly water, will be under increasing pressure as time progresses.

In the light of our other problems, MP's moats and other foibles pale into insignificance.
 
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