How do you feel about "Big Brother"

In general, how do you feel about "Big Brother"

  • In general, I think "Big Brother" is good for society

    Votes: 3 13.0%

  • I have mixed feelings about the introduction of things linked with "Big Brother", some examples of "

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • In general, I think "Big Brother" is bad for society

    Votes: 13 56.5%

  • I don't really care much, or I don't think it has/will have much effect on my life

    Votes: 3 13.0%
  • Total voters
    23
Have we possibly got hold of the wrong end of the stick on this thread ?

Should we not be discussing Jade Goody, Shilpa Shetty et al... ?

Personally I abhor the programme both in its celebrity and its non-celebrity format.

:cheesy:
 
yacarob1 said:
Have we possibly got hold of the wrong end of the stick on this thread ?

Should we not be discussing Jade Goody, Shilpa Shetty et al... ?

Personally I abhor the programme both in its celebrity and its non-celebrity format.

:cheesy:
Click to expand...

yep, Shipla.....another reason to vote for Big Brother.

Neil - that's the voice I hear. Maybe it's the gallon of "Wife Beater". :LOL:

UTB
 
chindl said:
Is that legal?
Click to expand...

Don't know. I've been looking for the film so that i can watch it free online, but where it is "advertised" through a google search, it has been removed. Possibly due to copyright issues
 
Last edited:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23372564-details/Britons+'could+be+microchipped+like+dogs+in+a+decade'/article.do

30.10.06
Human beings may be forced to be 'microchipped' like pet dogs, a shocking official report into the rise of the Big Brother state has warned.

The microchips - which are implanted under the skin - allow the wearer's movements to be tracked and store personal information about them.

They could be used by companies who want to keep tabs on an employee's movements or by Governments who want a foolproof way of identifying their citizens - and storing information about them.

The prospect of 'chip-citizens' - with its terrifying echoes of George Orwell's 'Big Brother' police state in the book 1984 - was raised in an official report for Britain's Information Commissioner Richard Thomas into the spread of surveillance technology.

The report, drawn up by a team of respected academics, claims that Britain is a world-leader in the use of surveillance technology and its citizens the most spied-upon in the free world.

It paints a frightening picture of what Britain might be like in ten years time unless steps are taken to regulate the use of CCTV and other spy technologies.

The reports editors Dr David Murakami Wood, managing editor of the journal Surveillance and Society and Dr Kirstie Ball, an Open University lecturer in Organisation Studies, claim that by 2016 our almost every movement, purchase and communication could be monitored by a complex network of interlinking surveillance technologies.

The most contentious prediction is the spread in the use of Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) technology.

The RFID chips - which can be detected and read by radio waves - are already used in new UK passports and are also used the Oyster card system to access the London Transport network.

For the past six years European countries have been using RFID chips to identify pet animals.

Already used in America

However, its use in humans has already been trialled in America, where the chips were implanted in 70 mentally-ill elderly people in order to track their movements.

And earlier this year a security company in Ohio chipped two of its employees to allow them to enter a secure area. The glass-encased chips were planted in the recipients' upper right arms and 'read' by a device similar to a credit card reader.

In their Report on the Surveillance Society, the authors now warn: "The call for everyone to be implanted is now being seriously debated."

The authors also highlight the Government's huge enthusiasm for CCTV, pointing out that during the 1990s the Home Office spent 78 per cent of its crime prevention budget - a total of £500 million - on installing the cameras.

There are now 4.2 million CCTV cameras in Britain and the average Briton is caught on camera an astonishing 300 times every day.

This huge enthusiasm comes despite official Home Office statistics showing that CCTV cameras have 'little effect on crime levels'.

They write: "The surveillance society has come about us without us realising", adding: "Some of it is essential for providing the services we need: health, benefits, education. Some of it is more questionable. Some of it may be unjustified, intrusive and oppressive."

Yesterday Information Commissioner Richard Thomas, whose office is investigating the Post Office, HSBC, NatWest and the Royal Bank of Scotland over claims they dumped sensitive customer details in the street, said: "Many of these schemes are public sector driven, and the individual has no choice over whether or not to take part."

"People are being scrutinised and having their lives tracked, and are not even aware of it."

He has also voiced his concern about the consequences of companies, or Government agencies, building up too much personal information about someone.

He said: "It can stigmatise people. I have worries about technology being used to identify classes of people who present some kind of risk to society. And I think there are real anxieties about that."

Yesterday a spokesman for civil liberties campaigners Liberty said: "We have got nothing about these surveillance technologies in themselves, but it is their potential uses about which there are legitimate fears. Unless their uses are regulated properly, people really could find themselves living in a surveillance society.

"There is a rather scary underlying feeling that people may worry that these microchips are less about being a human being than becoming a barcoded product."
Click to expand...
 
Last edited:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23390407-details/UK%20has%201%25%20of%20world's%20population%20but%2020%25%20of%20its%20CCTV%20cameras/article.do
UK has 1% of world's population but 20% of its CCTV cameras
26.03.07



Experts have called for a halt in the spread of CCTV cameras.

Britain is now being watched by a staggering 4.2million - one for every 14 people and a fifth of the cameras in the entire world.




The Royal Academy of Engineering also warned that lives could be put at risk by the lurch towards a 'big brother' society in which the Government and even supermarkets hold huge amounts of personal information on us.

It said any system was vulnerable to abuse - including bribery of staff and computer hackers gaining access.

Scroll down for more...




The Government's planned Children's Database, for example, which will contain the names and addresses of children considered vulnerable or 'at risk', could open the door for paedophiles to target them.

The academy said our identities, eating habits, health and vulnerability could all be compromised and abused.

This could include details being sold or leaked of whether a woman has had an abortion or a person's HIV status.

Supermarkets, which keep records of a shopper's purchases each week using

The use of face recognition technology would allow the authorities to pinpoint a person's exact localoyalty cards, could pass information about unhealthy eaters to the NHS or life insurance companies.

One of the report's authors, Professor Nigel Gilbert, said the number of CCTV cameras in Britain is so large that the installation of any more should be halted until the need for them is proven. The average Londoner may be monitored by up to 300 every day.

Britain relies on the cameras far more than other countries, accounting for 20 per cent of all such technology used across the world, despite having just one per cent of the globe's population.

Professor Gilbert said that, as digital technology improved, there would be no barrier to storing camera images indefinitely.

The use of face-recognition technology would allow the authorities to pinpoint a person's exact location at any given time.

The report added that the Government's plans for storing vast amounts of data on computer databases and microchips posed a huge risk to the public.

The NHS computer system to store patient records, which is currently costing billions to develop, could also jeopardise a person's lifestyle or employment prospects if information leaked out.

The report says examples could include DNA data showing that the presumed father of a child could not be.

The academy also said biometric data stored on radio frequency microchips on the Government's new passports - the technology which will be used for ID cards - could be 'eavesdropped'.

The microchips, which the Daily Mail has revealed can be read from a distance of several feet, could be hijacked by fraudsters - giving them access to names, addresses and other personal details - and even terrorists.

The report said that, in the future, extremists could construct a bomb which would be detonated only when a certain passport, or a passport of a particular nationality, was nearby.

The bomb would wait to be activated by information on the passport's electronic chip, which gives out a radio signal.

On supermarkets, the experts say there is no reason why firms such as Tesco or Sainsbury's need a person's name to issue them with a loyalty card.

The report says: "It is not entirely absurd to imagine that supermarkets' loyalty card data might one day be used by the Government to identify people who ignored advice to eat healthily or who drank too much, so that they could be given a lower priority for NHS treatment".

Professor Gilbert added: "We have supermarkets collecting data on our shopping habits and also offering life insurance services.

"What will they be able to do in 20 years' time, knowing how many doughnuts we have bought?"

The document follows a recent study from the Government's privacy watchdog, the Information Commissioner, which warned that Britain was becoming a 'surveillance society'.

Commissioner Richard Thomas said excessive use of CCTV and other information-gathering was creating a climate of suspicion.

Shami Chakrabarti, director of human rights group Liberty, said: "This report sends a clear warning to public and private sectors with their insatiable appetite for our personal information.

"The desire for a little bit of privacy is part of being human and the nation's dignity should not be for sale. Smart politicians and businessmen take note."
Click to expand...
 
Public consultation on the revised CCTV code of practice - http://www.ico.gov.uk/about_us/consultations/our_consultations.aspx

The current CCTV data protection code of practice was published by the ICO in 2000.

Since then we have:
  1. learnt a lot about CCTV and how the existing code is used;
  2. witnessed advances in CCTV technology; and
  3. seen new legal developments, including the Freedom of Information Act 2000, which have impacted on the use of CCTV.
The current code has been revised to take these developments into account and make sure it still provides up-to-date practical guidance.

We are holding a public consultation on the revised code as we want to get those who are involved in, or are affected by the use of CCTV to have the opportunity to comment on the revised code.

So you can make your views known we have included a comments sheet which you should fill in and return it to the Data Protection Development Officer. We can then consider your comments before the final revised version is published later in the year.

The closing date for comments is 31 October 2007.

We intend to make public the responses to this consultation. If you do not wish your response to be made public please tell us. However, you should bear in mind that as a public authority the Commissioner’s Office is subject to the Freedom of Information Act.

CCTV data protection code of practice – Consultation draft

CCTV consultation comment sheet
 
Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com Questions that David Icke would ask David Davis if he was not banned from his meetings
Questions that David Icke would ask David Davis if he was not banned from his meetings

David Icke.com
Thursday, July 10, 2008

This is what David Icke has sought to ask of David Davis, the man who instigated the ‘Big Brother’ by-election because he said he wanted a debate on the Big Brother State. A debate on his own terms, that is, and the terms of his Neoconservative allies, and certainly not a debate on global Big Brother with David Icke.

………………………………

The Big Brother State is being introduced all over the world, not just in the UK. So what is the common coordinating force which is imposing the global Big Brother society? Or are you just a coincidence theorist who says it is all happening at the same time by accident?

……………………………….

You are in favour of capitol punishment and voted for the invasion of Iraq. How do you square this with your claims to oppose Big Brother when there can be no more blatant example of Big Brother than to give the State power over life and death. And do you think that as the children and other civilians were cowering in their homes as Baghdad was pepper-bombed that they might have just thought that Big Brother had arrived?

You have been strongly supported in your stand against ‘Big Brother’ by Ed Vaizey MP, Michael Gove MP and Colonel Tim Collins, who are all original signatories to the Statement of Principles of the Henry Jackson Society, a Neocon, or Neoconservative, ‘think tank’, set up in Britain in 2005 and named after the US senator, Henry ‘Scoop’ Jackson, one of the icons of the Neocon movement in the United States that has controlled the Bush administration since it came to power and orchestrated the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and the war on terror in general..

This is the very same war on terror that has been used to justify the introduction of the Big Brother Society that you now say you oppose.

International patrons of the Henry Jackson Society include Richard Perle, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Robert Kagan and former CIA director, James Woolsey, all of whom were in the forefront of the instigation of the war on terror through their Neocon ‘think tank’, the Project for the New American Century, whose key members included Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz.

Indeed, Kristol and Kagan were co-founders of the Project for the New American Century.

The Henry Jackson Society is Britain’s version of the very same Project for the New American Century. Another of the original signatories to the Henry Jackson Society is Sir Richard Dearlove who was head of MI6 at the time of the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq and the launch of the war on terror.

You have yourself been paid to speak by the American Enterprise Institute, the sister organisation of the Project for the New American Century, and the Neocon ‘think tank’, the Hudson Institute.

How can you be taken seriously as an opponent of Big Brother when you are supported by, and so closely connected to, the very people and organisations that created the war on terror that is being used to justify Big Brother?

…………………………………………

Your colleague and Shadow Chancellor George Osborne came to support your Big Brother stance and yet he attended the Bilderberg meeting in Washington recently - his third - where reports say they discussed human microchipping, and the Bilderberg Group is one of the most blatant of Big Brother organisations. Why is he supporting you and why have you accepted his support given his background?

………………………………………..

Why did you invite Patrick Mercer MP to support your campaign when he has close connections to private security firms and companies that produce and sell the very Big Brother surveillance and control technology that you are complaining about?

………………………………………..

I have been warning of the coming Big Brother State in ten detailed books in the last nearly 20 years. Why will you not debate with me and why was I not even allowed to attend your public meeting with Bob Geldof last week even though I had a ticket booked?
Click to expand...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Joe Ross
How Should You Feel About Losses In Trading?
Replies
5
Views
2K
PurplePerson
P
Top