How To Make Money Trading The Markets.
This is a discussion on How To Make Money Trading The Markets. within the Stocks forums, part of the Markets category; Originally Posted by tenbobtrader Hi Mr Charts read all this carefully worded thread Richard some very good posts, your willingness ...
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|Jul 27, 2009, 11:37pm||#513|
Joined Jun 2009
and you thought my post was OTT .......... :-)
it was not an attempt to de-rail thread ............ it was only one questioning post
no mention of any personal vendettas, if tim thinks I have a personal vendetta against him then he is very much mistaken. I concede I do not like or agree with many of his posts and tone - not a crime or in anyway a vendetta
no death threats to anyone by me........... did I miss something ?
just a direct post with a request for clarification in a tone you and tim do not like
I will attempt to post in a more sedate manner and tone in future would not want to de-rail the best thread on T2W
I never mentioned tim by name
it was just an example to demonstrate that not everyone gets it 1,2,3 ... A,B,C and perhaps you should consider adding a little more detail to your posts in future
you were the one that felt the need to consider not posting and closing the thread down because of just one post you read
no more trouble from me I can see your all very sensitive around here
|Jul 27, 2009, 11:49pm||#514|
Joined Jun 2005
It's disappointing to see what's happened on this thread but also rewarding to see many of the common-sense and reasoned replies.
My trading's very different from Richard's and I doubt if his system would suit me yet I still find his commentaries extremely interesting and worthwhile. And he does it for free! Why should he explain L2 if he doesn't wish to? He's already donated (as have other established traders round here) loads of free instruction. Just add hard work and you'll make progress.
I consider Richard's response to be very worthy and it's so nice that he's not thrown his toys out of the cot!
"A Gentleman should not be seen before mid-morning unless he is returning home from the night before"
|Jul 28, 2009, 5:15am||#515|
Joined Nov 2001
There is one specific question that I would ask you and others, though.
What was wrong with tenbobtrader's post?
No opinions without specifying the offending words, please. A thread should be able to survive one dissenting poster. So should a another poster. I have had more hurtful things said against me in my time. I certainly, have no intention of leaving because of the opinion of one person.
|Jul 28, 2009, 8:52am||#516|
Joined Nov 2003
You make an assumption that I am referring specifically to tenbobtrader's post, but my last paragraph about emotional language is more generalised. In fact it refers to all threads - this one - Trader's Dante's or any thread that has attracted a following and then becomes derailed through emotional language from EITHER side.
In fact Tenbotrader highlighted this issue himself in post 498,
"many times others answered on your behalf in an aggressive endorsing manner, imho killing any debate regards the validity of the (PART) method posted on this thread, you then later endorse the answer when the gunfire is judged to have subsided or that is how it appears"
This is why I suggest that criticism of what are clearly popular threads on the grounds of the threadstarter's intent would best be made outside of the original thread, so that those who wish to read the original uninterrupted may do so. On the other hand debate that is related to technical aspects of a strategy are fine.
This is, after all, what the posting guidelines state:
"7.9 Keep your posts related to the topic of the thread. Irrelevant posts, particularly those which are intended to take the thread completely off topic will be moved to a new thread, or may be removed altogether.
7.10 Please keep your posts as constructive as possible and avoid making a post that adds little or no value to the discussion, for example "That's so cool." Poor grammar, spelling and misleading titles, make it harder to read the forums."
I am even reluctant to make this response here, because by doing so I am merely prolonging the diversion from the thread's original intent.
I should add that I myself use other strategies than those elucidated in this thread, but clearly there are many who would like to see the thread free from distractions.
Onwards and Upwards
|Jul 28, 2009, 9:03am||#517|
Joined Feb 2008
I have to say, I'm normally quite vocal about vendors.
Most of the vendors on this site are here for a single post, they spam the board with a link to some piece of **** EA and then get banned.
Mr Charts has made no attempt to hide the fact he's a vendor. He's showing us an entry technique that can be used. I actually PM'd him and traded emails about this entry technique and he did give me some more insight into it as well as some literature, all free of charge. None of the literature was pre-sales collateral dropping hints and promising more, it was all pure information free of hyperlinks or hints to buy something.
At no point during this exchange did he offer for me to join up as a student, nor did his emails contain any links to any training website.
You can actually make the technique here work but like Mr Charts says, maybe it works better with L2.
This thread was going fine until tenbobtrader started sticking his oar in. I have to wonder how much effort he put into trying to trade this method. I wonder if he reached out to Richard to confirm things he didn't understand. I am guessing he didn't. I am guessing in fact that he did little more than read this thread, see the 'works better with level 2' comments, saw his half-empty glass and started crying foul. I would also hazard that at no point will this guy ever be a successful trader. There's some free info here, it's of use. No point getting your titty in a wringer just because you aren't given the whole thing gratis.
It would be a shame if this thread ended here in my opinion. This site needs a few more traders and a few less critics who have shown a good degree of ineptness trading-wise thus far.
|Jul 28, 2009, 9:58am||#518|
Joined Jun 2009
not much of an oar was it
I agree mr charts is a vender and he is very open about it (see open to my my post)
followed the thread from the start and repped 1st post under the AKA bladerunner and a couple of other posts I think
re read the thread again
never attempted to trade method, not that interested in US stocks
posted what I did not understand on the thread in apparently the wrong tone
excellent response so far by everybody except mr charts
mr charts could have answered my post in a bullet format for the benefit of other thread followers and moved on
I was about to post a short thank you to mr charts initial response advising readers to check it out for themselves
usual sheep started posting their allegiance and reppying each other in some mad feeding frenzzzzzzzzzy
|Jul 28, 2009, 10:10am||#519|
Joined Nov 2001
I accept tht you were posting in general terms. It would, as you say be better if there was a separate thread for criticisms but, I'm afraid, it is human nature to address the source of the problem diectly as, on another thread, the dissenting poster is likely to be ignored completely, or answered by someone who is nothing more than the mother hen for the intended recipent
Searching questions are likely to be unpleasant to the recipient. No one likes to be the object of them but where would we be if they were not allowed? David Cameron is a thorn in Gordon Brown's hide. I'm not a fan of Cameron but I'm glad that he is there.
If anyone takes an authoritative line, then he should expect to answer relevant questions.
Anyway, as some of you rightly say, this has spoiled the thread, but it is not, necessarily, the questioner's fault. This particular questioner has been asking them way back.
|Jul 28, 2009, 10:22am||#520|
Joined Jun 2009
you get the government you deserve imvho
good posts imho from .......... Sandpiper Split Chorlton & 007
do not agree with your last line 007 ....... don"t want to fall out about it, not a bigggg"y
"I consider Richard's response to be very worthy and it's so nice that he's not thrown his toys out of the cot! "
there are a few on the floor imo
guess when the smoke settles you could cut the posts on the original thread and put them on another sister thread with a visible link ........ HEATED DEBATE THIS WAY ........SOME ASSSSsssss HOLE DARES TO QUESTION THE THREAD MASTER
leave you all to it
I agree pedro01
"Those that tell don't know. Those that know don't tell. "
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