Weekly percentage return on capital?

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

What daily/weekly/monthly/yearly average percentage return on capital are you having at the moment (not demo) and what are you aiming (if) for.

Please refrain making suggestion on how this need to be asked. If you like to share, that is good if not we move on.

Myself I am making 1% daily average and I am aiming for 2 minimum.

darkcider · Mar 25, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
What weekly percentage return on capital do you think is a reasonable for a trader?
(short term, day trading and scalping).

:?:Good question:?: I'll propose some variables, if you don't mind:?::idea:

1) Time spent infront off screens:?:

2) Time spent in market:?:

3) Turnover/risk percentage of capital:?:

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

darkcider said:
:?:Good question:?: I'll propose some variables, if you don't mind:?::idea:

1) Time spent infront off screens:?:

2) Time spent in market:?:

3) Turnover/risk percentage of capital:?:

Dark

Thank you for your suggestions.

Regarding time, I think that is not relevant, because we all trade differently, and some can make a lot of money spending little time on the screen.

I would like to know what traders think is a reasonable weekly percentages (5%, 6%, 8% and so on) return not based on risk, because a risk is a personal factor being comfortable with.

darkcider · Mar 25, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
Dark

Thank you for your suggestion.

Regarding time, I think that is not relevant, because we all trade differently, and some can make a lot of money spending little time on the screen.

I would like to know what traders think is a reasonable weekly percentages (5%, 6%, 8% and so on) return not based on risk, because a risk is a personal factor being comfortable with it.

My pleasure, Mike.

:idea:Just to add, i suppose a retailer could be happy with any return, whereas an employer may be a little more stringent:?:

Great thread!

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

darkcider said:
My pleasure, Mike.

:idea:Just to add, i suppose a retailer could be happy with any return, whereas an employer may be a little more stringent:?:

Great thread!

Dark,

Thanks. What would you like to return? if you do not mind answering and what kind of trader are you? (short term, scalping ect. and which instruments)

tomorton · Mar 25, 2012

I suspect even for short-term daytraders, setting a week as the target period for profitability is the wrong approach. Wouldn't batches of 50 or 100 trades be more rational and more readily comparable, one with the others? And less likely to bias behaviour towards bad habits for the benefit of short-term positive figures.

darkcider · Mar 25, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
Dark,

Thanks. What would you like to return? if you do not mind answering and what kind of trader are you? (short term, scalping ect. and which instruments)

I don't mind one bit, sir:!:

Style: Daytrader

Markets: SPX500 + EURUSD

Instrument: CFDs

Average % profit/month: 18.95% (not compounded)

:innocent:I suppose i should fill in my profile:whistling

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

darkcider said:
I don't mind one bit, sir:!:

Style: Daytrader

Markets: EURUSD + SP500

Instrument: CFDs

Average % profit/month: 7.2 (not compounded)

:innocent:I suppose i should fill in my profile:whistling

Nice one.

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

tomorton said:
I suspect even for short-term daytraders, setting a week as the target period for profitability is the wrong approach. Wouldn't batches of 50 or 100 trades be more rational and more readily comparable, one with the others? And less likely to bias behaviour towards bad habits for the benefit of short-term positive figures.

I see where you are coming from, I will add average and weekly/monthly.
Keep in my mind that short term, day traders and scalpers has been specified.

The idea is not to compare, but more of expressing an idea of what can be considered reasonable for various sort of trader based on their experiences as Dark did in his post.

Myself being a scalper I would like to see closing my book in positive daily, but I do not know about others and that is where my curiosity is coming from.

darkcider · Mar 25, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
Nice one.

Well i'm glad you think so Mike

:smart:My average amount of trades per month is exactly 9 at the moment, which is quite a coincidence as 9 is my favourite and lucky number:smart:

My average amount of time and effort that i put in each day is roughly an hour. I could do it in a lot less, but i enjoy having a good butchers.

If you need anymore figures, just let me know and i'm sure that i'll be more than too happy to oblige

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 25, 2012

darkcider said:
Well i'm glad you think so Mike

:smart:My average amount of trades per month is exactly 9 at the moment, which is quite a coincidence as 9 is my favourite and lucky number:smart:

My average amount of time and effort that i put in each day is roughly an hour. I could do it in a lot less, but i enjoy having a good butchers.

If you need anymore figures, just let me know and i'm sure that i'll be more than too happy to oblige

Dark

Sweet.

I think you said plenty. But if you wish you can show your trades on my scalping thread if you find that useful.

Mike

darkcider · Mar 25, 2012

darkcider said:
I don't mind one bit, sir:!:

Style: Daytrader

Markets: SPX500 + EURUSD

Instrument: CFDs

Average % profit/month: 18.95% (not compounded)

:innocent:I suppose i should fill in my profile:whistling

Mike!

Sorry old chap:innocent:Bit of an oversight on my part

See the updated figures

:!:The average amount of trades per month now stands at 10.83

Not my fave digit anymore:!:

Damned:!:

NVP · Mar 25, 2012

Mike Kshem araja said:
What weekly/monthly average percentage return on capital do you think is a reasonable for a trader?
(short term, day trading and scalping).

probably more importantly what are your expectations or needs as a R.O.C. if you are indeed to (correctly) approach this as a business ........which trading is :smart:

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Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 26, 2012

Now, I have amended my introduction post(below), answer if you wish:

"What daily/weekly/monthly/yearly average percentage return on capital are you having at the moment (not demo) and what are you aiming (if) for.

Please refrain making suggestion on how this need to be asked. If you like to share, that is good if not we move on.

Myself I am making 1% daily average and I am aiming for 2 minimum."

Lord Flasheart · Mar 26, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
What daily/weekly/monthly/yearly average percentage return on capital are you having at the moment (not demo) and what are you aiming (if) for.

Please refrain making suggestion on how this need to be asked. If you like to share, that is good if not we move on.

Myself I am making 1% daily average and I am aiming for 2 minimum.

What leverage do you use Mike.With those sort of figures why not just sell your signals on zulutrade.The top performer only makes 200% a year at 100:1 leverage.

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 26, 2012

Lord Flasheart said:
What leverage do you use Mike.With those sort of figures why not just sell your signals on zulutrade.The top performer only makes 200% a year at 100:1 leverage.

Thanks for your advice, but I do not need to sell.

Lord Flasheart · Mar 26, 2012

Mike,what leverage are you using to make this amount,thanks

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 26, 2012

lord flasheart said:
mike,what leverage are you using to make this amount,thanks

50 :1

What is your average return? Thanks.

Lord Flasheart · Mar 26, 2012

Mike Kshemaraja said:
50 :1

What is your average return? Thanks.

superb trading. Most SB accounts are leveraged more than that,so at even 100:1 your on over 2% a day, and you aim for 4%.

Mike Kshemaraja · Mar 26, 2012

Lord Flasheart said:
superb trading. Most SB accounts are leveraged more than that,so at even 100:1 your on over 2% a day, and you aim for 4%.

Flash, ok now I gave information about me, what about you?

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