Proof that Day Trading is profitable?

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Old Jul 17, 2009, 11:48am   #11
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Yeah, very interesting and Ouch! Why did they let that lot go on for so long? Even before the end of the first page they should have realised something was wrong and called a halt to their operation to take a closer look at what they were doing. Just my view.
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Old Jul 17, 2009, 4:13pm   #12
 
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Wasn't spreadbetting originally a hedging vehicle for the institutions and other professionals when it was started in the 1970's? And only really been available to retail (private) taders for the last 10 years or so?
Neo,

Actually, as I recall, in it's original form, it was more to allow institutional traders to place side-bets for their own accounts whilst staying under the radar of their own compliance departments.

Later incarnations catered to the somewhat compulsive nature of many traders of the time with additions such as goldfish racing.

In all other respects Skill is obviously right. And whilst Goldman, et al. obviously don't have any interest, you'd be surprised by how many of their employess still do stuff for their personal accounts on the side. Only difference is these days they probably have to be a bit cleverer about it and use vehicles like binaries and companies like Tradefair.
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...I had started doing this with a trading partner (friend) who became impatient because he said he could make more money doing something else.
This is a major red flag.

Ditch this guy or the chance of success comes down dramatically regardless of your strategy.
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Old Jul 17, 2009, 5:02pm   #14
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This is a major red flag.

Ditch this guy or the chance of success comes down dramatically regardless of your strategy.
LOL, yeah actually he chose to pack it in himself after three months trading with me last year - he was between jobs back then but he got bored with trading 'small' stakes and said he could earn more money in his normal line of work.

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Old Jul 17, 2009, 8:14pm   #16
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proves nothing

Possibly because the object of the thread proves nothing.

Whether it is day trading or otherwise there will be consistent losers and consistent winners, that is the nature of the beast.

If the object is to set the day traders against the rest in terms of comparative success or failure it has already been done to death. Either could be right and neither could be wrong!

Better that we all get on with trading whatever style and those that succeed will hopefully continue to help those that don't.

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Not trying to bump the thread but looks like it's had quite a lot of views but very few replies. Would appreciate any opinion, even if you just type "It's ****e", that's ok. (Feeling a bit like a cheap whore whose putting out but can't score You won't catch anything, 'promise). I actually don't know anyone else who does this professionally so an objective opinion from any other participants would be appreciated. Otherwise this thread can die, I guess.
p.s. thanks to the posters who replied
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Old Jul 20, 2009, 3:48pm   #17
 
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Yeah, very interesting and Ouch! Why did they let that lot go on for so long? Even before the end of the first page they should have realised something was wrong and called a halt to their operation to take a closer look at what they were doing. Just my view.
brokers gain commissions. they never tell you you're are a looser and have to stop trading 'cause the more you trade the more they gain
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Old Jul 26, 2009, 11:32pm   #18
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ofc people win in trading,its a zero sum game,if 90% lose where do you think the rest of the money goes?
To winners.
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Old Jul 26, 2009, 11:33pm   #19
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brokers gain commissions. they never tell you you're are a looser and have to stop trading 'cause the more you trade the more they gain
Not really,all genuine brokers want you to succeed a =t what you are doing.
The more money you make,the bigger your trades,the bigger their commissions.
Besides,its much cheaper than acquiring new customers.
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ofc people win in trading,its a zero sum game,if 90% lose where do you think the rest of the money goes?
To winners.
Its a negative sum game. Money is deducted from both winners and losers to pay for the upkeep of market infrastructure and to pay rents to the owners of same. Marginal winners can become losers because of this vig.

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