Useful things I've found on the Net.

This is a discussion on Useful things I've found on the Net. within the General Trading Chat forums, part of the To Be Sorted category; Nine, Re your post 21, from FTS8 onwards. This is the method I’m trying to perfect at the moment (although ...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old Mar 8, 2008, 11:15am   #33
Legendary Member
 
grantx's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2006
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

Nine,

Re your post 21, from FTS8 onwards.

This is the method I’m trying to perfect at the moment (although I ‘discovered’ the method independently as a modification of another method) . I reckon it’s the best approach for scalping. However, I don’t refer to volume - holding a position for seconds, if possible, I don’t think it strictly relevant (however, if someone can convince me otherwise I’ll certainly listen); and I have no need for technical indicators - their lagging nature would undermine the immediacy of the method.

There is one point of yours with which I would disagree regarding this method: “warning against going to too short a timeframe”. To illustrate why, please refer to the attachment in the second pot - tyhe one haere is incorrect.

The charts are for Friday’s CBOT 10-year future. The upper is a 1-minute time-frame, the lower a 10-tick time-frame. 1, 2, 3 and 4 show high/low points (I’ll use only these – it’s sufficient).

Here are the times of the highs/lows. The first figures are for the 1-minute chart, followed by the times for the 10-tick chart. The figures in brackets are from a 5-minute chart simply to provide a broader perspective.

1. 18:31, 18:30 (18:35)
2. 18:45, 18:44 (18:45)
3. 18:48, 18:48 (same time on the 5-min but the bar is a down-bar compared to an up-bar for 1-min and tick)
4. 19:05, 19:04 (19:05).

Is 1-minute significant? Of course it is (5-minutes is an infinity).

I think the greater the time-frame, the greater the risk. Assume you have a buy (sell) signal and you open a position; your entry price should be as close to the high (low) of the high(low) bar as possible, but not at the high (low) as this level would invalidate the high (low) bar as a buy (sell) signal (you won’t know if a bar is a high or low until the following bar).

Your stop is above (below) the high (low) bar. Therefore, the further away from the high (low) where the position is opened, the greater the potential loss to the stop point. And as price can rise/fall over, eg 1-minute (bar), then logically it can rise/fall by a greater degree over 5-minutes (bar)and the further away your stop.

Each instrument has a unique optimal time for generating signals. As shown, the 10-year note is 10 ticks which is also (strangely) the optimum for the 5- and 2-year notes. For comparison, Eurex’s Bund (10-year) is 25 ticks, Bobl (5-year) is 10-15 ticks, and Schatz (2-year) is 25 ticks. However, I think it’s important to occasionally adjust (check daily) these periods to reflect any change in underlying volatility (the same also applies to moving averages, for example – a 5- and 15-minute ma may work fine one day but if the underlying becomes more volatile 3- and 13-minute may be more suitable).

Are there any weakness? Only my own – not closing some losing positions quick enough (but I’m improving).

Any comments welcome.

Grant.
Attached Files
File Type: doc Nine.doc (48.0 KB, 186 views)
grantx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 11:23am   #34
Legendary Member
 
grantx's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2006
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

Problems re attachment. Be patient.
grantx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 11:28am   #35
Legendary Member
 
grantx's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2006
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

This should do it. Apologies for quality

Grant.
Attached Files
File Type: doc Nine 1.doc (157.5 KB, 172 views)
grantx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 12:07pm   #36
Guest
 
brutusdog's Avatar
 
Member Since Mar 2007
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

Quote:
Originally Posted by grantx View Post
Nine,

Re your post 21, from FTS8 onwards.

This is the method I’m trying to perfect at the moment (although I ‘discovered’ the method independently as a modification of another method) . I reckon it’s the best approach for scalping. However, I don’t refer to volume - holding a position for seconds, if possible, I don’t think it strictly relevant (however, if someone can convince me otherwise I’ll certainly listen); and I have no need for technical indicators - their lagging nature would undermine the immediacy of the method.

There is one point of yours with which I would disagree regarding this method: “warning against going to too short a timeframe”. To illustrate why, please refer to the attachment in the second pot - tyhe one haere is incorrect.

The charts are for Friday’s CBOT 10-year future. The upper is a 1-minute time-frame, the lower a 10-tick time-frame. 1, 2, 3 and 4 show high/low points (I’ll use only these – it’s sufficient).

Here are the times of the highs/lows. The first figures are for the 1-minute chart, followed by the times for the 10-tick chart. The figures in brackets are from a 5-minute chart simply to provide a broader perspective.

1. 18:31, 18:30 (18:35)
2. 18:45, 18:44 (18:45)
3. 18:48, 18:48 (same time on the 5-min but the bar is a down-bar compared to an up-bar for 1-min and tick)
4. 19:05, 19:04 (19:05).

Is 1-minute significant? Of course it is (5-minutes is an infinity).

I think the greater the time-frame, the greater the risk. Assume you have a buy (sell) signal and you open a position; your entry price should be as close to the high (low) of the high(low) bar as possible, but not at the high (low) as this level would invalidate the high (low) bar as a buy (sell) signal (you won’t know if a bar is a high or low until the following bar).

Your stop is above (below) the high (low) bar. Therefore, the further away from the high (low) where the position is opened, the greater the potential loss to the stop point. And as price can rise/fall over, eg 1-minute (bar), then logically it can rise/fall by a greater degree over 5-minutes (bar)and the further away your stop.

Each instrument has a unique optimal time for generating signals. As shown, the 10-year note is 10 ticks which is also (strangely) the optimum for the 5- and 2-year notes. For comparison, Eurex’s Bund (10-year) is 25 ticks, Bobl (5-year) is 10-15 ticks, and Schatz (2-year) is 25 ticks. However, I think it’s important to occasionally adjust (check daily) these periods to reflect any change in underlying volatility (the same also applies to moving averages, for example – a 5- and 15-minute ma may work fine one day but if the underlying becomes more volatile 3- and 13-minute may be more suitable).

Are there any weakness? Only my own – not closing some losing positions quick enough (but I’m improving).

Any comments welcome.

Grant.
Hi Grant.

i think the point nine was making was that newbies would be better looking at higher time frames as there will be less noise and there will be more time to identify and act on possible setups...

personally i find that 2 t/f's are best as per elder as multiples of 5. i have 5m and 1m.

also indicators don't have to be lagging. divergence between an indicator and the instrument is preemptive, no?

had a look at the bund looks pretty good for the shorter t/f don't have the 10 year t note on my platform unfortunately as this would probably be my preference .

cheers bd.
brutusdog is offline Commercial web site   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 12:11pm   #37
Guest
 
brutusdog's Avatar
 
Member Since Mar 2007
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

trading day by day by chick goslin his methods are very similar to those being discussed here.

Intelligent Futures Trading - Trading Day by Day - Chick Goslin

as is lbr grail...

Linda Bradford Raschke - LBR Group

personally i think the 3/10 /16 is great.
brutusdog is offline Commercial web site   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 12:16pm   #38
Guest
 
brutusdog's Avatar
 
Member Since Mar 2007
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

lbr stuff
Attached Files
File Type: pdf LBR_RASCHKE.pdf (137.4 KB, 311 views)
File Type: pdf raschke_pt2_0304.pdf (498.6 KB, 236 views)
File Type: pdf Raschke0203SFO.pdf (172.4 KB, 216 views)
File Type: pdf LBR_Scalp_setups.pdf (135.4 KB, 247 views)
brutusdog is offline Commercial web site   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 1:14pm   #39
Guest
 
brutusdog's Avatar
 
Member Since Mar 2007
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

some dow charts from last week
Attached Thumbnails
wall-street-1-min-diver-07-mar-08-.png   wall-street-1minhd-07-mar-08-.png   wall-street-daily-cash-diver-07-mar-08-.png  

brutusdog is offline Commercial web site   Reply With Quote
Old Mar 8, 2008, 2:55pm   #40
Legendary Member
 
grantx's Avatar
 
Member Since Jun 2006
Default Re: Useful things I've found on the Net.

Brutus,

Thanks for the pdf's - will read those this weekend.

I only subscribed to CBOT Friday so it is too early to make comparisons with Eurex's fixed-income. However, will be interesting to see how this develops.

Grant.
grantx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://www.trade2win.com/boards/general-trading-chat/29598-useful-things-ive-found-net.html
Posted By For Type Date
Box-trader This thread Refback Sep 27, 2008 7:36pm
Recent things Bookmarks on Delicious This thread Refback Sep 23, 2008 5:20pm
Rollover adjustments - Sierra Chart This thread Refback Jun 4, 2008 4:43am
Rollover adjustments - Sierra Chart This thread Refback Mar 13, 2008 4:39am

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
All things FTSE smccreedy Indices 213 Jun 21, 2007 6:46am
Things Will Get Better But First ...... wisestguy Money Markets 28 Jun 16, 2005 9:04pm
Things said by Clever Buggers. zigglewigler General Trading Chat 10 May 21, 2005 5:16am
What makes things move? strewthmate First Steps 32 Mar 2, 2004 2:11pm
books and things....... titus-uk Educational Resources 7 Dec 11, 2000 9:09am