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The book that Bill Gates supposedly read and promptly left school to start Microsoft. Legend has it that after the book was banned by the church in 1933 a copy of it turned up in silicon valley and was passed around and became the common factor among the entrepreneurial millionaires that were created

The secret of all secrets is contained within these pages... and unlike Napoleon Hills book... it is stated outright


http://www.secret-scrolls.com/master-key-system-free.pdf
 
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Pieyed said:
The secret of all secrets is contained within these pages... and unlike Napoleon Hills book... it is stated outright
Hi Pieyed,
If this book has enabled you to get to 'Pieyed is on a distinguished road' status with just 4 posts, then it must be worth reading!
;)
Tim.
 
Pieyed, Iv heard alot about the secret being shown to a worldwide audience on the 14th February.
Is this being released on the net? or is it being shown on US TV?

Faris
 
Pieyed said:
The book that Bill Gates supposedly read and promptly left school to start Microsoft. Legend has it that after the book was banned by the church in 1933 a copy of it turned up in silicon valley and was passed around and became the common factor among the entrepreneurial millionaires that were created

The secret of all secrets is contained within these pages... and unlike Napoleon Hills book... it is stated outright


http://www.secret-scrolls.com/master-key-system-free.pdf

I have always wondered how much of what we attribute to people's success is down to luck. I suspect we underestimate the part luck plays in our lives. I think Bill Gates is one example. The only certain thing we can say about Bill Gates is that he is very rich. I will be very surprised if it turns out that he was the best software developer around. Look at the history. In 1982 IBM was worried that Apple's new PCs were threatening its future. They picked up Intel and a geek called Bill Gates. It could have been any other kid with an aptitude for software development. It could even have been Apple itself. It is just a matter of how people decided to proceed at the time and who was there when it happened. If IBM joined forces with Apple, we would all now be using Apple instead of Gate's Microsoft. The strange thing is we ignore all the failures and try to 'learn' from the one's who 'made it', even though, more likley than not, there really is nothing to learn. If I have to bet on it, I would say Bill Gates doesn't know any more than a lot of people about the 'secrets' of success.

My pet hate is the 'pro' trader. This is really funny if you met people who make money trading. The majority are lucky idiots who haven't Got caught out yet. And they will, it is just a matter of time. If some fearless fool risks 10% per trade and makes money for a while, everyone wants to know his 'secrets'. On the basis of what? Well, maybe 6 months, or even a year's action. Can you tell if someone is good or just lucky by looking at his past prformance for a year or two? No, definitely not. You need to look at a lot of things besides his bank balance and where he goes on holiday. In Bill Gate's case, even if he was lucky, he also owns a product that everyone wants and uses. So you will never, for sure, know whether he was a lucky idiot or not.

Our respect for success is rather ridiculous. So when somone says they make x% a week or whatever, we immidiately go 'EVEN THE WALL STREET PROS DON'T ACHIEVE THAT'. That is such a stupid statement because it makes the assumption that someone, by the mere fact of working for some bank in wall street, is not only good, but better than everyone else who doesn't work in Wall Street. We assume that you are good at trading if you get a job at some City firm. My guess is they are no better than anybody else. It is just a matter of time before they blow up and are replaced by another lucky idiot who will last for a while until he blows up, and so on.

My point is this: we shouldn't fool ourselves into believing we can 'learn' from those who are visible (i.e., the ones who 'made' it) because more likley than not they are just lucky. They may be good but, in most cases, they don't need to be better than the ones who didn't make it. Think about trader A and B. Both leveraged 400:1 put on a trade on EURUSD in january 2005. A goes short and B goes long. A makes millions and B gets wiped out. A writes a book called 'How I made millions from one trade', and B writes a book called 'How I lost everything on one trade'. A, naturally, will fill his book with a lot of chart setups that look really good and so on. I am not going to ask who will sell more books, yet it was purely a matter of luck.

It takes a highly descerning mind to know what can be learned from and what is a matter of luck. I don't pretend to have such a mind but, at least, I am aware of the risk.

All the best.
 
FXSCALPER2 said:
I have always wondered how much of what we attribute to people's success is down to luck. I suspect we underestimate the part luck plays in our lives. I think Bill Gates is one example. The only certain thing we can say about Bill Gates is that he is very rich. I will be very surprised if it turns out that he was the best software developer around. Look at the history. In 1982 IBM was worried that Apple's new PCs were threatening its future. They picked up Intel and a geek called Bill Gates. It could have been any other kid with an aptitude for software development. It could even have been Apple itself. It is just a matter of how people decided to proceed at the time and who was there when it happened. If IBM joined forces with Apple, we would all now be using Apple instead of Gate's Microsoft. The strange thing is we ignore all the failures and try to 'learn' from the one's who 'made it', even though, more likley than not, there really is nothing to learn. If I have to bet on it, I would say Bill Gates doesn't know any more than a lot of people about the 'secrets' of success.

My pet hate is the 'pro' trader. This is really funny if you met people who make money trading. The majority are lucky idiots who haven't Got caught out yet. And they will, it is just a matter of time. If some fearless fool risks 10% per trade and makes money for a while, everyone wants to know his 'secrets'. On the basis of what? Well, maybe 6 months, or even a year's action. Can you tell if someone is good or just lucky by looking at his past prformance for a year or two? No, definitely not. You need to look at a lot of things besides his bank balance and where he goes on holiday. In Bill Gate's case, even if he was lucky, he also owns a product that everyone wants and uses. So you will never, for sure, know whether he was a lucky idiot or not.

Our respect for success is rather ridiculous. So when somone says they make x% a week or whatever, we immidiately go 'EVEN THE WALL STREET PROS DON'T ACHIEVE THAT'. That is such a stupid statement because it makes the assumption that someone, by the mere fact of working for some bank in wall street, is not only good, but better than everyone else who doesn't work in Wall Street. We assume that you are good at trading if you get a job at some City firm. My guess is they are no better than anybody else. It is just a matter of time before they blow up and are replaced by another lucky idiot who will last for a while until he blows up, and so on.

My point is this: we shouldn't fool ourselves into believing we can 'learn' from those who are visible (i.e., the ones who 'made' it) because more likley than not they are just lucky. They may be good but, in most cases, they don't need to be better than the ones who didn't make it. Think about trader A and B. Both leveraged 400:1 put on a trade on EURUSD in january 2005. A goes short and B goes long. A makes millions and B gets wiped out. A writes a book called 'How I made millions from one trade', and B writes a book called 'How I lost everything on one trade'. A, naturally, will fill his book with a lot of chart setups that look really good and so on. I am not going to ask who will sell more books, yet it was purely a matter of luck.

It takes a highly descerning mind to know what can be learned from and what is a matter of luck. I don't pretend to have such a mind but, at least, I am aware of the risk.

All the best.

What we do know of course is that he thieved the idea of the PC from Apple, so we do know he is at least a thief and also lucky. Its quite interesting how many in his position combine both those attributes
 
I dont think that Bill gates would even try and claim that he was the best software developer around. And while some may call him a thief for pinching the idea that made him rich, others would call him a shrewd business man, including himself probably. He just took someone elses idea and capitalised on it better than anyone else could. How many other successful business people actually dreamed up the products/services that made them rich? Not that many I would have thought, they just have the know how of how to take an idea and make it successfu. I do agree with the comments about luck to an extent. But you can only be lucky for so long and Mr Gates has stayed at the top for many years now and is not just rich, but the richest man in the world! Surely somethng can be learned from someone who achieves that..
 
Pieyed said:
Legend has it that after the book was banned by the church in 1933 a copy of it turned up in silicon valley and was passed around and became the common factor among the entrepreneurial millionaires that were created
With gems like this:
Human thought is the spiritual power of the cosmos operating through its creature man.
and this:
31. What is thought? Thought is spiritual energy.
32. How is it carried? By the law of vibration.
33. How is it given vitality? By the law of love.
It shows how powerful the placebo effect is.
 
jimbo57 said:
What we do know of course is that he thieved the idea of the PC from Apple, so we do know he is at least a thief and also lucky. Its quite interesting how many in his position combine both those attributes

There you go. I was just using logic. You even have the evidence. LoL.
 
PaddyMcTaff said:
I dont think that Bill gates would even try and claim that he was the best software developer around. And while some may call him a thief for pinching the idea that made him rich, others would call him a shrewd business man, including himself probably. He just took someone elses idea and capitalised on it better than anyone else could. How many other successful business people actually dreamed up the products/services that made them rich? Not that many I would have thought, they just have the know how of how to take an idea and make it successfu. I do agree with the comments about luck to an extent. But you can only be lucky for so long and Mr Gates has stayed at the top for many years now and is not just rich, but the richest man in the world! Surely somethng can be learned from someone who achieves that..

Of course Bill Gates may be as good as his riches suggest. The point is that he may not be and there is no way of telling without studying everything detail. What irks me is the suggestions that you can learn about success from people that have 'made' it. Often people are impressed by a track record wothout looking what lies behind that record.

In trading, I will call someone good if they are adaptable enough to survive a very long time with changing market conditions. It is more than possible for someone to make money one year out of sheer luck. All one needs is the right bias. Think of someone who was, after 'analysing' the fundies, was bullish eurusd in 2004 and kept on buying the eurusd and made money. If the same person had the same bias in 2005 and just kept on buying, they would get wiped out. But I am certain that he would have a lot of followers in December 2004 and no followers now. Track records are like that. The poor guy was lucky in 2004 and unlucky in 2005. For some reason, we read more into success than we should.
 
Apparently the secret is a spoonful of syrup of figs every morning and stand clear LOL
:cheesy:
 
jimbo57 said:
What we do know of course is that he thieved the idea of the PC from Apple, so we do know he is at least a thief and also lucky. Its quite interesting how many in his position combine both those attributes

Well, not strictly true.

Bill Gates and Paul Allen actually started M$ writing programming languages, then developed into writing Operating Systems (although they took the idea from Gary Kildall at Digital Research). Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, meanwhile, built the Apple I and Apple II from the ground up, but as far as I'm aware M$ have never built a PC - only the OS and ancillary software/peripherals.
 
FXSCALPER2 said:
Of course Bill Gates may be as good as his riches suggest. The point is that he may not be and there is no way of telling without studying everything detail. What irks me is the suggestions that you can learn about success from people that have 'made' it. Often people are impressed by a track record wothout looking what lies behind that record.

Much of it is simply recovering the ball after somebody else fumbles it. Remington Rand fumbled the computer and IBM recovered, then in turn fumbled the PC and presented Gates with his opportunity. Ampex fumbled the VCR and Sony took it from there, then fumbled with BetaMax, and the VHS format took off. Apple pretty much shot itself in the foot by trying to keep everything secret. Would Windows have taken off otherwise? Ditto with the original Netscape and IE.

Ford did not invent the automobile. MGM did not invent the musical. Kodak did not invent film. What matters is what one does with the opportunities made available to him, assuming he recognizes them for what they are in the first place.

The Secret? Wet birds don't fly at night.

--Db
 
excellent point dbp.
success is generally a combination of technical talent and salesmanship / marketing ability.
And simply being in the right place at the right time.

Also, Boeing didnt invent the aircraft.
Neil Armstrong could never have been famous if it werent for Werner Von Braun, and the earliest computers and tecnicians.

I always thought that Gates success was down to giving away the OS free with computers.
Over a period of time, MS was successful simply because of its ubiquity, and ultimately had considerable market penetration.

Oh, and the head of IBM saying there was a global computer need of about, say, 17 computers, didnt help.
 
its better to be prepared for an opportunity & not have one....than to have an opportunity & not be prepared !

I think the whole subject is pure speculation....at the end of the day who can describe what luck is , does it just happen ..or do we somehow make it happen....does anybody know the answer ??

I think it comes down to individual faith.....if you believe you cannot control your future/destiny/luck then fair play............if you do fair play ....then wether you believe it is something spiritual or just enabling you to be prepared for the right opportunity/ take the right action......does it matter to anyone apart form yourself
 
trendie said:
excellent point dbp.
success is generally a combination of technical talent and salesmanship / marketing ability.
And simply being in the right place at the right time.

Also, Boeing didnt invent the aircraft.
Neil Armstrong could never have been famous if it werent for Werner Von Braun, and the earliest computers and tecnicians.

I always thought that Gates success was down to giving away the OS free with computers.
Over a period of time, MS was successful simply because of its ubiquity, and ultimately had considerable market penetration.

Oh, and the head of IBM saying there was a global computer need of about, say, 17 computers, didnt help.


Ubiquity, yes. And a twist. Such as McDonald's ubiquity along with its focus on real estate rather than leases. And the ubiquity of Holiday Inn and Howard Johnson's along with low prices. I suspect Lyons has a similar story.

Hershey offering its product to the Armed Forces for its ration kits during WWII. Coca-Cola giving away so much of its product during the same period. All Gates had to do was pay attention.

--Db
 
rossored said:
Well, not strictly true.

Bill Gates and Paul Allen actually started M$ writing programming languages, then developed into writing Operating Systems (although they took the idea from Gary Kildall at Digital Research). Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak, meanwhile, built the Apple I and Apple II from the ground up, but as far as I'm aware M$ have never built a PC - only the OS and ancillary software/peripherals.

You are right- the PC was IBM's that ran on MS's DOS. But gates "borrowed" a prototype apple from Jobs (Jobs and gates were ex colleagues) and then adapted his software to fit a similar box.
 
Finlayson said:
its better to be prepared for an opportunity & not have one....than to have an opportunity & not be prepared !
Very wise!

Finlayson said:
I think the whole subject is pure speculation....at the end of the day who can describe what luck is , does it just happen ..or do we somehow make it happen....does anybody know the answer ??
Luck is . . . Labouring Under Correct Knowledge!
(Sorry, but you did ask. :) )
 
Despite the ubiquity of misguided superstition, luck is simply applied probability, for want of a better phrase. Someone killed by a falling durian might be considered unlucky but is simply the victim of a remote probability, albeit one increased by their choosing to stand under a tree that kills several unfortunates a year. (The latin name for durian means "smells like a civet cat" by the way. :)) Meanwhile SOMEONE must win the lottery - no luck in that - while every other entrant is taxed on their superstition or failure to grasp how pathetically minuscule are the odds of winning.

People who consider themselves lucky generally have a more positive outlook than those who consider themselves unlucky. Thus good events are highlighted in their memory while bad events fade; the opposite is true for the latter. This has a cumulative effect which is bad news for the "unlucky" person because they are likely to become increasingly aware of every bad event and increasingly dismissive of good ones, falling into a vicious spiral of irrational "the fates must really have it in for me" paranoia.

"Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity" - Seneca
 
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