Margin calculation

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Hi,
could someone please help me to determine what the margin requirement
is for such a trade at the broker IB (or similar) using a normal margin acct:
Type: Naked short call of stock options
UnderlyingPrice: $3.50
OptionStrike: $9
OptionContracts: 500
OptionPrice: $0.05

MarginRequirement=?
 
It seems that for the above trade the Margin Requirement of the broker IB is $20,000.

Such a high margin requirement for such a low-probability trade for reaching ITM is by no means justified
(ie. the underlying is currently trading at 3.50 and the Strike is 9.00, t=1/12, ie. monthly option,
and with a Historical Volatility of say 60, EarningsYield=0 and DividendYield=0 it is very unrealistic
as the probability in this case is about 0.0000% (!), as the Strike is 5.4529 StdDevs (ie. more than 5 sigma) off
of the current spot that this stock could ever close at >= Strike in such a short timeframe.
So there is not a single risk for the broker that would justify such an astronomically high margin requirement).

For the above trade the broker wants a margin that makes up 800% (!) of the credit, ie. 2500/20000*100=800%.
The margin requirement should rather be near zero, as there is no risk at all for the broker as the maths proves it clearly.

I would say the margin formula the brokers use are all plain wrong, only favoring themselves,
without paying any attention to the probabilities.

Margin should be calculated according to the same Black-Scholes formula as for calculating the premium and the greeks, especially the Delta, as it says how much the probability is for the trade to end In-The-Money (ITM).

As such, the Margin Requirements are astronomical, and not even the regulatory bodies seem to see the fraud and the rip the brokers are committing to their clients.
I'm complaining.

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It seems that for the above trade the Margin Requirement of the broker IB is $20,000.

Such a high margin requirement for such a low-probability trade for reaching ITM is by no means justified
(ie. the underlying is currently trading at 3.50 and the Strike is 9.00, t=1/12, ie. monthly option,
and with a Historical Volatility of say 60, EarningsYield=0 and DividendYield=0 it is very unrealistic as the probability in this case is about 0.0000% (!), as it's 5.4529 stddevs off the current spot that this stock can close at >= Strike, so there is not a single risk for the broker to justify such an astronomically high margin requirement).

For the above trade the margin requirement should be rather near zero, as there is no risk for the broker as the maths proves it clearly.

I would say the margin formula the brokers use are all plain wrong, only favoring themselves,
without paying any attention to the probabilities.

Margin should be calculated according to the same Black-Scholes formula as for calculating the premium and the greeks, especially the Delta, as it says how much the probability is for the trade to end In-The-Money (ITM).

As such, the Margin Requirements are astronomical, and not even the regulatory bodies seem to see the fraud and the rip the brokers are committing to their clients.
I'm complaining.

.

On the first message you forgot to mention the most important parameters: maturity and volatility. I see you posted them in this message, but if you can provide the exact details (underlying ticker and maturity) I may be able to give you exchange margins. Forget BSM formula, exchanges have their models, and on top of that Brokers may apply a buffer.
 
On the first message you forgot to mention the most important parameters: maturity and volatility. I see you posted them in this message, but if you can provide the exact details (underlying ticker and maturity) I may be able to give you exchange margins. Forget BSM formula, exchanges have their models, and on top of that Brokers may apply a buffer.

Thx, would be glad to see the exchange margin rates.
I did my calculation with 21 days till expiration as it was around the 16th or 17th of this month.
Here the data:

Underlying: CHK
OptionType: Naked Short Call
Maturity: June 17, 2016
UnderlyingPrice: $3.50
Strike: $9
Premium: $0.05
IV for this strike: 131.25% (according to YahooFinance)
NumContracts: 500
 
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Thx, would be glad to see the exchange margin rates.
I did my calculation with 21 days till expiration as it was around the 16th or 17th of this month.
Here the data:

Underlying: CHK
OptionType: Naked Short Call
Maturity: June 17, 2016
UnderlyingPrice: $3.50
Strike: $9
Premium: $0.05
IV for this strike: 131.25% (according to YahooFinance)
NumContracts: 500

Initial exchange margin is $36.72 per lot, equal to $18,360 for 500 lots. IB is applying you a 10% extra margin, if I remember well they do increase margins for naked options and concentration risk (in case this is your only position).
 
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