Wot happened to the post no 5.

So I was just wondering which mod deleted my post this time around from the what happened next debacle. I have asked the moderator who started the thread and he doesn't know who removed it.

My post was neither directed at anybody nor indeed was it defamatory. I would like to some guidance as to why it was deleted especially as it got positive feedback. In fact this just goes to prove what a joke the feedback system.

Hopefully some guidance will help me to reach the upper echelons of posting etiquette so that one day I can perhaps join the ranks of the gurus.

lol.

there was the usual kiddies spat i think. many a toy was firmly thrown out of the pram! some posts i guess got deleted too. what a bunch of stable, emotionally balanced people we have here. i sure some of them are really top of the tree material.

markets never change.

Is that the one I answered? Well. I was warned that any more posts on that thread would get deleted so ,
maybe, that was the reason. That thread was closed.

I think Jon's getting a hard time just now keeping discipline. He's a nice guy and I have chatted to him from time to time, although he will probably ignore me from now on. I almost ruined his thread so am going to try to keep quiet for a while, although I don't think what I said was that bad and it was the only post deleted. Others have posted much worse stuff than what I said.

Split

Yes it was that thread, but my post was aimed firmly at the middle of road and was more of an observation rather than any mud slinging. The issue it was addressing, although thinly veiled was the way that posts that have positive feedback are getting deleted and that undermines that system.
If by Jon you mean the mod Barjon, I asked him and he said he had no knowledge of my post being removed.
In response to your post I personally wouldn't give a hoot if you thought I was full of s### or not, as I am sure you wouldn't either. As i have said in another post that ,I later edited, there is one and only one type of feedback / reputation we should concern ourselves over and thats the one that at the bottom of our trading screens.

Splitlink said:

Is that the one I answered? Well. I was warned that any more posts on that thread would get deleted so ,
maybe, that was the reason. That thread was closed.

I think Jon's getting a hard time just now keeping discipline. He's a nice guy and I have chatted to him from time to time, although he will probably ignore me from now on. I almost ruined his thread so am going to try to keep quiet for a while, although I don't think what I said was that bad and it was the only post deleted. Others have posted much worse stuff than what I said.

Split

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tsuntzu said:

So I was just wondering which mod deleted my post this time around from the what happened next debacle. I have asked the moderator who started the thread and he doesn't know who removed it.

My post was neither directed at anybody nor indeed was it defamatory. I would like to some guidance as to why it was deleted especially as it got positive feedback. In fact this just goes to prove what a joke the feedback system.

Hopefully some guidance will help me to reach the upper echelons of posting etiquette so that one day I can perhaps join the ranks of the gurus.

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It struck me that the thread had run its course, certainly no-one was commenting on either the stock or why it did what it did, the thread ended badly, far from the original intention, and anyone continuing to post into it following on from the unsavoury end could only be seen to be trouble making, prolonging and stirring, so I am not surprised any further posts were deleted. From what I have seen this board offers plenty of latitude for those who like to abuse people to ply their trade without worrying about one lost opportunity

Thank you for your sensible comments roguetrader.

I deleted about 30 posts and closed the thread. I accept that some posts that did not directly contravene site guidelines have fallen victim to my zealous brushing but given the context in which they were occuring I used discretion and decided it was better that they all go rather than just a few. My aim was to stem the continual flow of mudslinging as it showed no sign of stopping despite barjon's repeated attempts to get the thread back on track. There was also context missing as posts had already been selectively deleted previously, with the result that the community may have derived a biased view of certain members' conduct and I felt this to be unfair.

tsuntzu said:

Yes it was that thread, but my post was aimed firmly at the middle of road and was more of an observation rather than any mud slinging. The issue it was addressing, although thinly veiled was the way that posts that have positive feedback are getting deleted and that undermines that system.

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I understand why you feel aggrieved but I'm afraid that in my view your post contained a thinly veiled disparaging reference towards a specific member and as such it was only adding further flames to the fire. I think it is disingenuous of you to say it was aimed firmly at the middle of the road and not directed at anybody. However I realise it also makes some valid general observations so I have restored some of it.

If it received positive feedback all that means is that someone agreed with you. I do not see why this makes a joke of the system or suddenly renders a post immune to deletion. I could make an offensive post claiming that tsuntzu is a silly mewing kitten and if someone agreed and rated it would you then be surprised when the mods still deleted it?

To be honest the mods are fed up with the way a really interesting thread was wrecked and I'm afraid one consequence of this is that our (my, in this case) attempts to stop this are apt to seem heavy-handed and possibly unfair.

:cheesy: I am indeed one of those, although i dont so much mew as squeak.

Thanks for the reply and clarifying the situation for me.

frugi said:

I could make an offensive post claiming that tsuntzu is a silly mewing kitten and if someone agreed and rated it would you then be surprised when the mods still deleted it?

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alas you are not alone tsun tzu.

i asked why charts of RECENT activity could not be posted, instead of charts that are 6 months old and therefore 'easier' to 'predict'. in my opinion, this would stop all the baiting and give everyone an easy life.

guess what!

the post was deleted!!! how on EARTH COULD A POSITIVE SUGGESTION BE MISUNDERSTOOD AS BAITING??? - or why else was it deleted?

this is proof that.....

imo the mods enjoy all this stupidity - perhaps they should volanteer to be junior school teachers instead?

the whole thing is rigged

or that t2w is just a wank fest and we are all waisting our time here.

pathetic. utterly pathetic.

charliechan said:

alas you are not alone tsun tzu.

i asked why charts of RECENT activity could not be posted, instead of charts that are 6 months old and therefore 'easier' to 'predict'. in my opinion, this would stop all the baiting and give everyone an easy life.

guess what!

the post was deleted!!! how on EARTH COULD A POSITIVE SUGGESTION BE MISUNDERSTOOD AS BAITING??? - or why else was it deleted?

this is proof that.....

imo the mods enjoy all this stupidity - perhaps they should volanteer to be junior school teachers instead?

the whole thing is rigged

or that t2w is just a wank fest and we are all waisting our time here.

pathetic. utterly pathetic.

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once again cc you have shown have rude and ignorant you are.if people dont believe me look at these comments to a female contributor.this is a disgrace and you should have been banned immediately .nothing short of obnoxious.trade2win should not be letting its guests contributors put up with such garbage.good day.


"Hey Liz - wanna pm me your number and i\'ll show you the town next time yer in london. youre a bit older than i usually go for, but after a few pints i think youll look 10 years younger and be doable. how about it? xx"

Edit by frugi - this offensive post has now been deleted.

http://www.trade2win.com/knowledge/articles/general_articles/trampled-under-foot/page3

I think you have hit the nail on the head. Golly if we started looking at what was going to happen why we would be in the realms of trading. tut tut. Anyhow I agree about this being a waste of time. I am going to leave it all to the gurus and super traders. I get slated all the time in my office for posting on here and thus the time has come to shut up shop. :cheesy:


ps your not suggesting with todays technology you could do a scan given the price action and actually find the chart in question and then do your analysis are you?? Goodness grief do you not know I am here to impress. :cheesy:

charliechan said:

alas you are not alone tsun tzu.

i asked why charts of RECENT activity could not be posted, instead of charts that are 6 months old and therefore 'easier' to 'predict'. in my opinion, this would stop all the baiting and give everyone an easy life.

guess what!

the post was deleted!!! how on EARTH COULD A POSITIVE SUGGESTION BE MISUNDERSTOOD AS BAITING??? - or why else was it deleted?

this is proof that.....

imo the mods enjoy all this stupidity - perhaps they should volanteer to be junior school teachers instead?

the whole thing is rigged

or that t2w is just a wank fest and we are all waisting our time here.

pathetic. utterly pathetic.

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oh dear charlie you could go to hell for that one

deep deep do do!

your suggestion of any new wots using the latest charts gives people the weekend to show their charting prowess off then we can all see how we got on as the following week progresses
fair enough my post was edited by the mods I personly didn't mind much

(no reference whatsoever to chart cheating or anything of that nature infired in my post if that is how it comes over let me know and I will delete )

cheers

Don

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ps your not suggesting with todays technology you could do a scan given the price action and actually find the chart in question and then do your analysis are you?? Goodness grief do you not know I am here to impress. :cheesy:

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That is the nub of the whole thing. I have no proof, just a growing feeling that after the third "Wot" the whole thing was too good to be true.

Split

Splitlink said:

That is the nub of the whole thing. I have no proof, just a growing feeling that after the third "Wot" the whole thing was too good to be true.

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No it is not Spitlink. He is not the only one who can do it, but he has been the only one naively generous enough to talk about it, and in public, and to an undeserving audience.

In this profession there are several learning curves to be mastered

I leave you to cogitate and think about what these learning curves might be.

Consider someone who has discovered something of value through his efforts and now his natural propensity is to want to share....you might think it is the right thing to do.

Ordinarily it is. But not here.

When the naive generosity is replaced by experience it is proved to be the wrong, absoultely the wrong posture to adopt, in any circumstances.

It is a shock, but it is the stark and cruel reality that has to be faced by anyone assuming that open generosity and kindness will be reciprocated or appreciated, let alone rewarded.

Socrates,

We're talking about forecasting months ahead.

Split

mr.marcus is a genuinely capable guy.
Last year (or the year before), I was intra-day trading the Dow, and was part of the Chatroom (instant messaging). Along with, on many occasions, frugi, Racer, JoulesMM, etc.
( there were, generally, around a dozen or so, at a time, although, when mr.marcus was present, it went to over 20)

mr.marcus did, on many days, provide almost continuous commentary in short-term time-frames, (between 1-5 minutes as I recall), and nailed the swings of the Dow in those time-frames.

he said he used some algorithms he had worked a long time to develop for fine-tuning, but we could follow his remarks real-time, as he pointed out that he was using the behaviour of the SP-500 and Nasdaq to identify movements in the Dow. Sometimes he felt the Dow was leading, and thus showed where the swings in the SP-500 may come from.

Clearly, if he trades in such short time-frames, he can either trade or comment, but not both. We should, after all, be traders first and foremost.

I believe mr.marcus leaving is a grave loss to T2W.

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Socrates,

We're talking about forecasting months ahead.

Split

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So what is difficult about that, when everything is clearly decided in advance of the event ?

So the timeframe does not matter whether it is minutes, hours, days, weeks or months or even years in some cases.

You may choose not to beiieve it, but there are a handful of us who know it, that is the difference.

SOCRATES said:

So what is difficult about that, when everything is clearly decided in advance of the event ?

So the timeframe does not matter whether it is minutes, hours, days, weeks or months or even years in some cases.

You may choose not to beiieve it, but there are a handful of us who know it, that is the difference.

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I would normally blow a fuse at this point, but have now decided not to waste any more time on such obvious nonsense.


Trading is just this.
We trade PROBABILITIES nothing more.

counter_violent said:

I would normally blow a fuse at this point, but have now decided not to waste any more time on such obvious nonsense.


Trading is just this.
We trade PROBABILITIES nothing more.

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Don't blow any fuses, it would not do you any good at all, and in any event it is not necessary.
When you say "we" you mean yourself and others.

You can be absolutely guaranteed I do not include myself with you or the others.

And a good afternoon to you too.

SOCRATES said:

Don't blow any fuses, it would not do you any good at all, and in any event it is not necessary.
When you say "we" you mean yourself and others.

You can be absolutely guaranteed I do not include myself with you or the others.

And a good afternoon to you too.

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"WE" being, the correct thinkers, and no I didn't include you in this group.
Have a lovely evening.

PS. Never start a sentence with "And.

counter_violent said:

"WE" being, the correct thinkers, and no I didn't include you in this group.
Have a lovely evening.

PS. Never start a sentence with "And.

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