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Old Sep 14, 2017, 8:45am   #185
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I don't know what's constraining about the CC. It's difficult to conclude that hundreds of recent posts haven't offended against 1.01, 1.02 and 1.03. All that's required is for a tough line to be taken - it's not necessary to be "fair" since, as 1.04 and 1.11 make clear this isn't a freedom of speech site and anything that makes it a worse place to be, can be stopped at your discretion. . .
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CC or no CC, five months is unacceptable. . .
. . .One needn't rely on my view. . .
Hi Jon & dbp,
Thanks for your thoughts. Personally, I agree with much of what you say but, as you both well know, I'm not a Moderator and so I have absolutely no say in who is issued with infraction points and bans etc. The only people who can address your points and offer any meaningful insight into all of this are the Mods themselves.

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Old Sep 14, 2017, 9:29am   #186
 
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Hi Jon & dbp,
Thanks for your thoughts. Personally, I agree with much of what you say but, as you both well know, I'm not a Moderator and so I have absolutely no say in who is issued with infraction points and bans etc. The only people who can address your points and offer any meaningful insight into all of this are the Mods themselves.

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What is the difference between a mod and staff at T2W.
Sorry if it's been asked before.


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Old Sep 14, 2017, 10:06am   #187
 
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Tim,

"Whenever I spot a member criticising T2W, its staff or Mods - I will step in and comment as, (rightly or wrongly), I consider it part of my job to explain our position so that members can weigh up both sides of the argument. If I didn't do that and challenge what I perceive very often to be false allegations then, to my mind, it looks weak and some members may wonder if there's some truth in the allegations being made. It's then a short hop, jump and a skip to conclude that the site, staff and mods are all in the pockets or the spread bet firms - or whatever. So that's why I responded as I did to Larry a few pages back. As and when I revert to normal member status - I will probably do as you advise and stay out of these 'discussions' altogether."

And you are totally right to do so.
Once you're a "normal" member you'll enjoy more peace and time not spent dealing with morons and life-wasters
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 10:26am   #188
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Just out of curiosity, (haven't been following all the threads) what was the reason for banning FL?
At a guess he probably mentioned stooge once too often.
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Old Sep 14, 2017, 10:42am   #189
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What is the difference between a mod and staff at T2W.
Sorry if it's been asked before.
Hi Oscar,
No, to the best of my knowledge, you're the first! In the context of this discussion - and in a nutshell - staff draft the Community Constitution (CC) and the Mods implement it. The idea behind this is that Mods are objective and act on their own completely independently of staff. This is important as the clear division between the two helps to ensure a level playing field for everyone and avoid the sorts of accusations made by Larrystone that I addressed in this post. Mods have nothing to gain by allowing trolls to run amock on the one hand, while banning good members on the other.

That's the theory at least. In practice, it doesn't prevent the accusation that Mods and staff are in cahoots and act in concert to feather their own nests. If you believe half the conspiracy theories promulgated on T2W over the years, you'd think that we're perpetually being showered with all manner of 'inducements' from ne'er-do-wells with a commercial agenda. Nothing could be further from the truth. I confess, at a personal level, I'm rather disappointed that even though I've been on the staff since 2009, not once have I been offered so much as half a pint of mild - let alone a brown envelope stuffed with tenners - to get someone banned or to allow a scammer to post freely etc.
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I'm rather disappointed that even though I've been on the staff since 2009, not once have I been offered so much as half a pint of mild - let alone a brown envelope stuffed with tenners - to get someone banned or to allow a scammer to post freely etc.
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Tim, I'd certainly have offered you a couple of pints to have done a few bannings!

On a more serious note it's been disappointing to see the way things have been going over recent times. The Mods have a difficult job – unpaid and mostly unthanked and as far as I can see, finding it very difficult to please the awkward squad.

I would suggest that things need to change – what's happened to the old days? It seemed to be okay then! I get the impression that some posters are just out to make trouble and squabble with whoever is willing to engage – as far as I'm concerned they're not wanted round here. We have the ludicrous situation where people are posting in quantities which just make a mockery of any informed or reasoned debate. I would suggest for starters, until things have calmed down and a return to some semblance of normality has occurred: that posters are limited to a maximum of five posts per day. And troublemakers be summarily closed down.

I wonder what the sponsors (who presumably pay the bills) think of the situation? If they take fright then eventually there will be no T2W and the trolls will have won. I don't want that and neither would anybody else with a serious interest in trading.
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Hi Jon & dbp,
Thanks for your thoughts. Personally, I agree with much of what you say but, as you both well know, I'm not a Moderator and so I have absolutely no say in who is issued with infraction points and bans etc. The only people who can address your points and offer any meaningful insight into all of this are the Mods themselves.

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As you've said repeatedly, and I believe I speak for Jon when I say that we are well aware that you are not a moderator and have no authority. However, you are the only member of the "team" to respond to these concerns, and since the Tower remains silent and declines to engage the membership regarding these concerns, it is not difficult to understand the inevitable frustration. It's so much easier to just leave. Would it be quieter that way? Again, just look at the course that TL followed (usually when I log in to check for messages, I'm the only one there). Yes, the only people who can address our points and offer any meaningful insight into all of this are the mods (or anyone else on the "team") themselves. But they don't. Why they don't is a mystery. But because they don't these discussions go on and on and on.

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That's the theory at least. In practice, it doesn't prevent the accusation that Mods and staff are in cahoots and act in concert to feather their own nests. If you believe half the conspiracy theories promulgated on T2W over the years, you'd think that we're perpetually being showered with all manner of 'inducements' from ne'er-do-wells with a commercial agenda.
No one but a troll would make this sort of accusation. And anyone who'd ever been to futures.io would never think of making it. That to me is not the problem. The problem is the lack of response, the silence, all of which suggests apathy, and a wish that the complainers would simply go away. And that is most often the outcome, and they are quickly forgotten.

It has been said that the heyday of the online trading forum is long gone, and that certainly appears to be the case, given the type of people who populate online trading forums these days. The question then becomes where someone who has a genuine interest in how markets work and isn't seduced by all the geegaws and Siren calls goes to study and learn and associate with experienced traders. If there are no longer any such places, more's the pity.
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Old Sep 15, 2017, 9:11pm   #192
 
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Maybe you didnt notice that FXCM's rep didnt post here for over 2 months , however apparently he is still active in other forums . Is that a sign ? Maybe .
Hi Tar,

I’m still here and happy to help when someone has questions about FXCM. I’ve found it’s just been quiet lately around here. Maybe everyone’s trading Bitcoin lately lol. Although with today’s GBP movements the forex market may be heating up.

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