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Old Jul 9, 2012, 9:11am   #51
 
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Hi, I came across this thread today and I worked for "Infinity International Group" and called under "Universal Marketing Concepts". The MO was cold calling, then, filling out some sort of form with the cold call details and then sending the forms over to a "client". The callers were trained in the process intensely and each call was listened to and analyzed for a lot of details. Ideally, I would get 7 such "surveys" as they called it a day. The target countries were Japan, the Middle East, parts of Europe like Greece, Denmark, Portugal, the UK, Finland and South Africa. The details were full name, phone, alternate phone, personal e-mail address, company and position in the company. We never called anyone below the "Manager" portfolio. Any other questions, please feel free to ask.
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Old Aug 27, 2012, 3:12pm   #52
 
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hi guys, what is the opinion on the press releases regarding Trieye and Saguaro oil and gas.
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Old Aug 30, 2012, 10:34am   #53
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Scammers , Trainers , Magical systems

Boiler rooms......Greg.....Darren .......Rob......Vince ......Jason **.....the list is endless..... and more always to come .....

ya gotta lovem .......most people here at T2W with a considerable combat years under their belt know the score with trading ......its hard and unforgiving but can be profitable if you persevere, find your edge and continue to apply solid consistent principles and practices ....but its hard and returns can be unpredictable at times as the Market can be a fickle friend....

these guys know that ....they're not stupid believe me ........and actually I have no doubt they have or could be very very good traders ......but they have also decided to create income streams from building networks and systems that persuade people they need to pay them for Trading Training...and of course they are very very good at selling and marketing this training ......

and that business will be consistently more lucrative and profitable than trading if leveraged correctly

I used to be very resentful of these guys .....in fact if you look back at my Correlation thread a few years back I ran a long campaign against **Jason Fielder who seemed to "discover" his Correlation Code system about a year after I published and shared here (for free) a lot of ideas about this style of strengthmeter training .....

and after talking to others it seemed to be spookily in line with my freely shared ideas on the thread (although his was more naive and "dumbed down" in many ways which weakened the messages I try to portray but maed tghen easier to sell......) and he was adding a $2k kicker being charged for some simple Free indicators....in fact it fell short of the mark in many many ways in my opinion ....but he naturally sold shedloads to mainly unhappy customers if you around the forums on the unofficial feedback (I know he had alledgedly 4,000 people on one webinar.....4,000 !)

But what the hell............thats life.......you walk your own path

So whats my point ?

Guys - we Just continue to alert people to the fact that the initial path in Trading is available free on-line and from the great Trading books out there that again are all available if newbies search for forums on "best tradign books"

so again on behalf of some of the old school here.......

NEWBIES

Theres no holy Grail or secret exploding Stock.....

Spend 6 months to a year reading , researching Forums and learning and playing with Demo Accounts - all FREE !!

by then (hopefully) the magic has faded and one can make logical and sensible choices regarding any mentoring or advanced training one requires .........the Holy grail is inside you and will be unique to you....this is not a copycat based business opportunity ...its based on leveraging your own traits and talents and applying them to the business of Trading

all the best.....and please buy my megatron whoopsy trading system if I ever decide to go to the Dark side

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Old Feb 4, 2013, 4:39pm   #54
 
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Hi guys, any comments on this question? No postings from long time. Thx.
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Old Jul 31, 2013, 9:28pm   #55
 
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Hi, I came across this thread today and I worked for "Infinity International Group" and called under "Universal Marketing Concepts". The MO was cold calling, then, filling out some sort of form with the cold call details and then sending the forms over to a "client". The callers were trained in the process intensely and each call was listened to and analyzed for a lot of details. Ideally, I would get 7 such "surveys" as they called it a day. The target countries were Japan, the Middle East, parts of Europe like Greece, Denmark, Portugal, the UK, Finland and South Africa. The details were full name, phone, alternate phone, personal e-mail address, company and position in the company. We never called anyone below the "Manager" portfolio. Any other questions, please feel free to ask.
Hi Anon, how can we find James Kennedy and Paul Costa> if you have any ideas?
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Old Sep 10, 2013, 12:09pm   #56
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I must confess to being completely mystified by the ability of the scammed to be scammed. What is it, that makes them use these unknown names as a means to buy unknown shares?? Aren't good, old-fashioned brokers with well-known reputations, good enough for them?

All you guys who look at "First Steps" for the first time, are the ones I am talking to, because those posting on the Boiler Room forum have been caught, already. They have learned their lesson. At least, I hope thay have.

It seems to me that a lot of us older traders and posters should give, continuous, warning about cold callers, boiler rooms, scams, whatever they are called, because a lot of new people are taken in every day.

If anyone calls you with a good proposition, either by phone or e-mail, hang up on them.
Don't, even, engage them in the most innocuous conversation. Their only weapon is their tongue and they are trying to get your interest., anyway they can.

Good trading

Split
Hi Split,

Me too. In my experience, some just don’t possess the ability to say ‘no’. It’s like the ‘chuggers’ (charity muggers) – the obviously do well, people find it hard to say no when someone’s being so persuasive.

Be particularly wary of cold callers from abroad. I’ve had a few calls from the US recently, probably selling some S-reg rubbish. I’m guessing they get their contacts from share registers. Although I believe the info on share registers has changed of late?
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