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Old Nov 14, 2011, 8:50am   #16
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And by the way, did you all know that one of the main guys behind UKLI, one of the UKs biggest land banking frauds is working for SJ Capital...............
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Old Nov 14, 2011, 9:21am   #17
 
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And by the way, did you all know that one of the main guys behind UKLI, one of the UKs biggest land banking frauds is working for SJ Capital...............
who would that be
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Old Nov 14, 2011, 10:44am   #18
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who would that be
Brian Smith BA (HONS) MRTPI was the 'Strategic Land Director' of UKLI, as I said, the most notorious and shameful of all the past Land Banking scam companies, and that's really saying something.

Now he's the 'Stategic Land Director' of SJ Capital, although SJ don't like this fact to be known. Who would have thought that?

And good old Brian also seems to be working as the 'Stategic Land Director' of another land banking firm Land Hold Capital - Landhold Capital - Strategic Land Investment.

Landhold Capital seems to be headed by a one Paul Charney who was also heavily involved in UKLI.

So whatever way you look at this, whether it be Brian, Paul, UKLI, SJ Capital or Landhold, it stinks to high heaven.

Buyers beware because if you buy 'potential' development land through these companies thinking you're going to make easy money, well, you're going to find out the word 'potential' means just that. Or to put it another way, you're all being setup to buy worthless land...........

PS. Here's a tip that will save you all money. Before you get sucked in by the smooth and agressive salesmen (hurry up, the land is selling out fast, if you don't buy soon you won't make any money) TALK TO THE LOCAL COUNCIL'S PLANNING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THE LAND. Do that and there's a 100% chance you'll be shocked what the Council tells you in regards to the people who are trying to sell you the land.

PPS. Also for those thinking of buying the land. Do you realise who owns the land at present? yes, it's the people trying to sell it to you (although they'll probably deny it). So if the value is 'soon' to zoom higher, why are they being so nice to you and letting you make lots of cash, surely the more sensible strategy for them would be to keep it and make all the money. Would you do that, or would you let strangers buy it and make the easy money? The reason is of course simple, the land has a very slim it anything chance of ever getting planning so the land banking company is trying to stuff you up with worthless land......And if you're a buyer you're too naive to even realise it.........

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Old Nov 14, 2011, 11:41am   #20
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More links -

And by the way, has anyone noticed that ALL the people interviewed who bought land have one thing in common - THEY'VE FOUND THEMSELVES WITH A WORTHLESS PLOT WITH NO CHANCE OF GETTING PLANNING.

Who would have thought of that, because ALL of them when they bought the land would have been told that getting planning was almost a 'sure thing'. Well, the only 'sure thing' when buying these plots is you're going to lose 99% of your money.

BBC Inside Out - Field of Dreams

UK land schemes: exercise caution! - Special investigations | Moneyweb

The plot thickens - Telegraph

Turf war - Telegraph

'He nearly had me, as well' - Telegraph
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 6:33am   #21
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any facts at all would be welcome.Click the image to open in full size.

If all the above posts are not enough to warn you off these land banking scams, then I recommend that you use all your money, (and as much as you can possibly borrow), to buy the land from those scammers.

No need to worry about facts. Just good old blind faith in the honest salespeople is good enough due diligence.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 6:39am   #22
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What is the http://www.uklv.info/g.php that is embedded in all of iwaress posts??

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Old Nov 15, 2011, 7:53am   #23
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Wackypete looked into this the last time it happened. It's some means of spamming but I'm not sure if anyone got to the bottom of it. I've reported it.
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Old Nov 15, 2011, 9:57am   #24
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any facts at all would be welcome.Click the image to open in full size.
As Shewold says, how many more do you need?

Well, you actually only need the one fact when it comes to land banking and that's this -

NO INVESTOR IN A LAND BANKING DEAL HAS EVER MADE MONEY.

REPEAT - NO INVESTOR IN A LAND BANKING DEAL HAS EVER MADE MONEY.

And I'm talking probably in excess of 100,000 people, maybe even as high as 500,000.

That stat is SHOCKING wouldn't you agree and the reason is simple - NOT ONE PLOT OF LAND HAS EVER GAINED PLANNING PERMISSION, NOT ONE.

Having said that, land banking is actually a very successful business, but for those owning the firms. You see, what 100% of their clients can't work out is they're being used. The clients think the game is played one way, but in reality it's played a different way and that's to stuff the clients up with worthless land. So like I said it's a very profitable business for those involved.

YOU'VE ALL BEEN WARNED - BUY THESE PLOTS OF LAND AND YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY.

So please everyone be honest with yourself (if you do buy). Don't blame the scammers because scamming is their job, blame yourself for being both greedy and naive and of course not doing your own INDEPENDENT RESEARCH into what you're buying and who you're doing business with.

Just being cruel to be kind
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Old Nov 18, 2011, 12:16pm   #25
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So many warnings in the press about land banking scams, here's another one -

Warning to investors as land-banking scams top £200m - Telegraph

Invest in one of these plots and YOU WILL LOSE ALL YOUR MONEY, regardless of what you're being told by the smooth talking salesmen who will make it all sound so easy..........

YOU'VE ALL BEEN WARNED.
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Old Dec 28, 2011, 4:44pm   #26
 
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They are a land banking scam. I hope you havnt given them any money, if you have it's gone.

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/firs...tal-group.html
@ pboyles, anley & others

It seems that in your noble pursuit to expose rogue organisations your subjectivity has over-ridden the obligation you have to your post-readers. Surely you agree with the requirement to do proper research on the companies you hastily tar with the same brush, wilfully quoting inaccuracies and insulting any individual who dares question your basis, which is a travesty no different to the scams you try to expose. One specific example is that of SJ Capital, which you have accused of being a “land-banking” scam. I am the MD of SJ Capital (SA) and wish to repudiate several of the points you have made about our organisation. Our detailed response can be found at SJ Capital Group - Strategic Land Investment
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Old Jan 9, 2012, 9:01am   #27
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Folks, if you want to know why Wayne of SJ Capital is running a land banking company read the post by Richard Greenland on this thread - Investing in land - Property Tribes

Basically SJ Capital are selling plots of land that have NO hope of getting planning permission in the form they're proposing. Also, it's going to be impossible to get planning on any site that doesn't have a minimum 30% affordable housing component. The land banking firms never mention this because it gets in their way of stuffing up their clients with worthless land. Affordable land is worth a pittance of proper development land. And the clients never realise because they're naive and gullible and fail to do their own independent research into what they're buying and the shady companies they're doing business are. In effect they take all their research and knowledge from the salesmen they're talking to, who also happen to own the land........

YOU'VE ALL BEEN WARNED - BUY UK PLOTS OF LAND BECAUSE THEY WILL GET 'RE-ZONED' AND YOU'RE BEING SETUP TO BUY WORTHLESS LAND.

Don't let your greed get the better of you, think hard about things, pay attention to posts like this, don't listen to the professional salesmen (hurry up, this site is selling out fast, the profits you're going to make will be huge).
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Old Jul 6, 2012, 3:53pm   #28
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More on this front -

http://www.trade2win.com/boards/firs...tal-group.html
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Old Jul 9, 2012, 9:58am   #29
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To anyone that bought a plot of land in the UK that will 'rocket' in value when the plot gets planning permission, did your sales call go anything like the following?

Land 'scams' techniques revealed | UK Land for Sale
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