Boiler Room Scams

This is a discussion on Boiler Room Scams within the Educational Resources forums, part of the Commercial category; Originally Posted by wackypete2 This is interesting. If you type "Fisher Capital Management Scam" the first few results are all ...

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Old Jan 27, 2012, 5:32pm   #2948
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This is interesting. If you type "Fisher Capital Management Scam" the first few results are all their own domain name about safety and reviews but this thread does appear in the middle of the page.

Peter
Quick follow-up on Fisher Capital Management Scam
This same google search today shows this thread has been bumped to page 6. These guys are hard at work posting on every site they can find including many of their own. Regular posting to the facebook account Fisher-Capital-Management-Scam-Safety-and-Reviews keeps that post as number 1 in the search and of course it never mentions Fisher Capital Management and doesn't even talk about scams at all.

This is about as glaring a red flag as you could possibly find.

Peter
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 7:18pm   #2949
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Thank you for the info. my case is based in UK and if you have a reference to the fine that I may look it up, I will be grateful
Google 'FXCM fined by NFA' and 'FXCM fined by CFTC'. If you can't figure it out from that I'd give up.
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Old Jan 27, 2012, 8:50pm   #2950
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Google 'FXCM fined by NFA' and 'FXCM fined by CFTC'. If you can't figure it out from that I'd give up.
Yes I managed to get that, and a little bit more, found a very interesting story

FXCM slapped with a class action suit over claims of fraud and racketeering | Forex Magnates
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Old Jan 29, 2012, 12:24pm   #2951
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Quick follow-up on Fisher Capital Management Scam
This same google search today shows this thread has been bumped to page 6. These guys are hard at work posting on every site they can find including many of their own. Regular posting to the facebook account Fisher-Capital-Management-Scam-Safety-and-Reviews keeps that post as number 1 in the search and of course it never mentions Fisher Capital Management and doesn't even talk about scams at all.

This is about as glaring a red flag as you could possibly find.
Agree, and it's a great new ANTI BOILER ROOM SPOTTING TACTIC.

Search the company's name on Google, go through pages 1-10 and LOOK HARD AT THE LINKS AND THEN THE PAGES OF THOSE LINKS.

If you come across a blizzard of crap, useless sites, copy/paste content of very limited quaility then 100% YOU ARE TALKING WITH A BOILER ROOM THIEF OF A COMPANY. No ifs and no buts.

Or put it another way, think of a legit financial firm, one in your own country that's regulated. Do you think it tries to flood Google with 101 useless links and pages? Or does it let its website andbusiness stand on its own..........

YOU'VE BEEN WARNED - STAY AWAY FROM Fisher Capital Management THEY ARE SCAMMERS AND THIEVES. Read this thread, go back about 1-10 pages and see how they stole a lot of money from one poor Aussie.

Ask questions here if you'e UNSURE ABOUT ANYTHING. We'll help keep your money safe.

Also report the names of any scam boiler room operations here, Google loves this thread and it realy pisses the thieves off when one of their potential marks finds out that the 'charming, nice broker' he's talking to is nothing but a lowlife thief and conman...........Want proof, next time you get a call from one, call him a thief, call him a conman, then see how he gets taken aback, these conmen really hate it when you remind them what they are
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Old Jan 30, 2012, 1:03pm   #2952
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Quick follow-up on Fisher Capital Management Scam
This same google search today shows this thread has been bumped to page 6. These guys are hard at work posting on every site they can find including many of their own. Regular posting to the facebook account Fisher-Capital-Management-Scam-Safety-and-Reviews keeps that post as number 1 in the search and of course it never mentions Fisher Capital Management and doesn't even talk about scams at all.

This is about as glaring a red flag as you could possibly find.

Peter
Found on 'Hanging on the phone' at An Englishman in Dubai Blog:

Just saw an interesting post on The Motley Fool board:-
SEC revokes license of suspected boiler room
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...ec-revokes-lic...
MANILA, Philippines – The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has revoked the operating license of First Asia Client Depository Services Inc. (FACDS) for fraud committed in the procurement of its registration certificate. (Mentions George Spencer)
“My insider in the boiler room says that this is an operation connected to David Gilinsky aka “George Spencer” and that he’s running two other boiler rooms in Makati in the Philippines.
Does anyone else recognise the names?”
posted by JakNife
In answer – yes JN – I recognise that name. Gilinsky is a former Manila Hotel head chef who has come across “unexplained wealth” in the past few years since moving to the Philippines – no doubt from the likes of Eldora Gold/ Amazon Gold/ Fisher Capital/ Shaw Capital/ Strathclyde & Associates etc etc.
Gilinsky also heads up a Art Foundation called the Kalinawa Foundation which is at Gilinsky’s offices :-
Suite 1607
Tower One & Exchange Plaza
Ayala Triangle
Ayala Avenue
Makati City 1226
Philippines
Voice: (632) 759 – 3682
Facsimile: (632) 759 – 3681
E-mail: info@kalinawa.com
There are a number of businesses running from the same office – yes all linked back to laundering money and financial businesses.
Now funny old thing this but if you compare George Spencers voice to that of Gilinsky you can’t tell the difference and if you look closely voila – George Spencer = David Gilinsky. So if you have been scammed……and you probably have by a boiler room especially one of the ones named – they are all run by Gilinsky & co (a group of Philippinnes residents). Gilinsky speaks like a Canadian who only left Canada yesterday and a bit of homework on this dubious character reveals a wealth of information.
One thing is for certain – he is not difficult to find and a good starting point if you have lost money to a boiler room especially one you suspect runs out of Manila…..
Talk about running with the hares and hunting with the hounds……sic em.
see http://www..kalinawa.com for a good set of instructions on exactly where to find this character. He deserves everything he gets coming to him – ……..

Well done I'd say
JSmile
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Old Jan 30, 2012, 1:29pm   #2953
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Here's another good tip to spot a boiler room thief - what's the name of the person calling you, if it's 'grand' such as George Spencer then 99% chance you're talking to a thief and a conman. He's only being nice to you so he can steal your money, hence the lowlife tag - at least a mugger snarls and puts a knife in your face.

The Boiler Room scammers, as many other types of scammers, all try to convince their marks they're rich, sophisticated, proper etc which is why they love flashy addresses, and old money type names for themselves and their scam firms.

YOU'VE ALL BEEN WARNED.
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Old Jan 31, 2012, 3:35am   #2954
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Found on 'Hanging on the phone' at An Englishman in Dubai Blog:

Just saw an interesting post on The Motley Fool board:-
SEC revokes license of suspected boiler room
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...ec-revokes-lic...
MANILA, Philippines – The Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) has revoked the operating license of First Asia Client Depository Services Inc. (FACDS) for fraud committed in the procurement of its registration certificate. (Mentions George Spencer)
“My insider in the boiler room says that this is an operation connected to David Gilinsky aka “George Spencer” and that he’s running two other boiler rooms in Makati in the Philippines.
Does anyone else recognise the names?”
posted by JakNife
In answer – yes JN – I recognise that name. Gilinsky is a former Manila Hotel head chef who has come across “unexplained wealth” in the past few years since moving to the Philippines – no doubt from the likes of Eldora Gold/ Amazon Gold/ Fisher Capital/ Shaw Capital/ Strathclyde & Associates etc etc.
Gilinsky also heads up a Art Foundation called the Kalinawa Foundation which is at Gilinsky’s offices :-
Suite 1607
Tower One & Exchange Plaza
Ayala Triangle
Ayala Avenue
Makati City 1226
Philippines
Voice: (632) 759 – 3682
Facsimile: (632) 759 – 3681
E-mail: info@kalinawa.com
There are a number of businesses running from the same office – yes all linked back to laundering money and financial businesses.
Now funny old thing this but if you compare George Spencers voice to that of Gilinsky you can’t tell the difference and if you look closely voila – George Spencer = David Gilinsky. So if you have been scammed……and you probably have by a boiler room especially one of the ones named – they are all run by Gilinsky & co (a group of Philippinnes residents). Gilinsky speaks like a Canadian who only left Canada yesterday and a bit of homework on this dubious character reveals a wealth of information.
One thing is for certain – he is not difficult to find and a good starting point if you have lost money to a boiler room especially one you suspect runs out of Manila…..
Talk about running with the hares and hunting with the hounds……sic em.
see http://www..kalinawa.com for a good set of instructions on exactly where to find this character. He deserves everything he gets coming to him – ……..

Well done I'd say
JSmile
I am glad George has been nabbed, but George is certainly NOT canadian.. he is from Manchester area in the UK, accent is easlily detectable..
has anyone got an addresfor him, or his real phone number, many peaople would like to "speak" to him.

While I am here ..Also watch out for the latest scam company .. Amazon Gold Ventures.. came registered address as Solamon energy corp.. another scam company set up in Canada and listed on the Frankfurt exhange.. those guys in Frankfurt need to get their act serioulsy cleaned up!!
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