Boiler Room Scams

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Old Dec 14, 2017, 1:36am   #4381
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I haven't pay them yet. but they are waiting for my payment. I'm just afraid that they will use those "legal documents" against me. I just don't know what to do next.
You are right to not send any money. It is a scam, Boiler Room.
The fact that they have a Seoul, Korea address is because it is highly unlikely any of the people they try to scam will ever visit Korea. A Tokyo, Hong Kong, Singapore office address will probably get some visitors as they are popular business destinations. Then people will find out that it is a virtual office.

Google is great but they employ people who can bury the negative results down a few pages so you will not see them on a search unless you look further. You will see their website, press releases etc on the initial search.

1) Level 41 Gangnam Finance Center 152 Teheran-Ro, Seoul, 66236, Korea.
The Executive Centre, Serviced Offices, Seoul, South Korea
You will find no one there but an answering service and message forwarder.

2) Website: https://sanderson-consultants.com/
https://www.scamadviser.com/is-sande...fake-site.html

3) Banco Espirito Santo S.A.
This bank has a history of Money Laundering
Swiss froze millions linked to Banco Espirito Santo
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/busines...santo/43078432

It's a good thing that you published the banking info. Others who have sent money there can contact the bank, if they do it quickly, and report a Boiler Room Investment scam and possibly get there money back. It has happened before.

Should they call and threaten you with legal action, just ask the person if he works for David Gallinsky (Manila) or Paul Hilton (Bangkok, Manila, Kuala Lumpor) or is it another Boiler Room operator and see what he says.
Those two culprits are still active and use these tactics.

This site Andrew-Drummond.com used to report on Boiler Rooms in Thailand but was threatened and had to leave Thailand for fear of being murdered.

read: http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2015/...ns-part-1.html

I'm glad to help should you need any of these matters investigated.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 9:13am   #4382
 
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John_North,
More than likely the bank was informed that this is a scam by another "investor" and returned your money. The scam company wanted you to re send the funds to another bank before you realized it was a scam too.

Glad it worked out for you.
Just hang up n future calls because these guys are like a turd that won't flush and will not give up trying to scam you as long as you are on the phone.

Upon Googling the tel. #

UK financial regulator Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) has issued its latest warning against an unregulated financial services provider targeting UK consumers.

The FCA’s latest warning is against the firm Chesterfield International Partners.

Chesterfield International Partners is not authorised by the FCA but has been targeting people in the UK and is also carrying on regulated activities which require authorisation:

Chesterfield International Partners

Address: 146 E 39th Street, New York, NY 10016, United States
Tel: + 1 914 294 3839, + 1 914 462 3739
Website: www.chesterfieldintlpartners.com
Email: info@chesterfieldintlpartners.com, info@chesterfieldpartners.com

To see the official FCA warning, click here. https://www.fca.org.uk/news/warnings...ional-partners
Here are the details of the bank I was asked to send my money to:

BRANCH ADDRESS: 51 H. Francisco Street Corner Roosevelt Avenue Brgy. Paraiso Quezon City, Philippines
HEAD OFFICE: China Banking Corporation Bldg.
8745 Paseo De Roxas Corner Villar. Street
Makati, Metro Manila
BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER:
133252000496
BENEFICIARY ACCOUNT NAME:
JTA Builders
202 Windsor Mansion Cityland Evangelista Avenue Santolan
Pasig City, Metro Manila Philippines
SWIFT CODE: CHBKPHMM

P.S. The 'lady' speaking on this YouTube video is, I believe, the same person who engaged with me. She called herself Karen Johanssen and her line of talk was almost exactly as it is on the clip.


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Old Dec 14, 2017, 4:10pm   #4383
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You could get legal advice, go to the police or just put it down as an expensive lesson learnt the hard way.
There is another way to get rid of them ;
Demand they supply you with a copy of their Company Registration Certificate and the local SEC authorisation to conduct Financial Business.
Most likely they will not come back to you but do not be surprised if some other Boiler Room does.
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Old Dec 14, 2017, 8:51pm   #4384
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hahaha

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Here are the details of the bank I was asked to send my money to:

BRANCH ADDRESS: 51 H. Francisco Street Corner Roosevelt Avenue Brgy. Paraiso Quezon City, Philippines
HEAD OFFICE: China Banking Corporation Bldg.
8745 Paseo De Roxas Corner Villar. Street
Makati, Metro Manila
BANK ACCOUNT NUMBER:
133252000496
BENEFICIARY ACCOUNT NAME:
JTA Builders
202 Windsor Mansion Cityland Evangelista Avenue Santolan
Pasig City, Metro Manila Philippines
SWIFT CODE: CHBKPHMM

P.S. The 'lady' speaking on this YouTube video is, I believe, the same person who engaged with me. She called herself Karen Johanssen and her line of talk was almost exactly as it is on the clip.

The "lady" is a Filipina.
They use these Filipinos to "front" you then have a Brit or another westerner call you to "close" you.
Just pure lazy coz the Filipinos make hundreds of calls to get a couple of interested or gullible parties for the "brokers". Then they get a token % of the sale.

I met some Filipino guys in Ortigas that were selling investments in Marijuana stocks. They were high as a kite while on the phone. I was amused.

NBI busts group using Yolanda victims to scam donors abroad
http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/news/...-abroad/story/

David Gilinsky is the old fat guy sitting in the chair talking to the NBI. Probably working out a price to pay to go free. He's done it many times.

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Old Dec 20, 2017, 3:19am   #4385
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Reminder.
This is the time of year that the Boiler Room guys will be trying to get you to pay.
They won't get paid until they come back after New Years but that will give them something in their pockets after spending all their money on drugs and hookers over the holidays.

Then i Jan, they will be hitting the phones hard to get your end of year bonus money.

Just hang up on the leaches!

video link:

https://youtu.be/5BRDJSWIGMo

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Old Feb 25, 2018, 11:13pm   #4386
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Wow. No activity since I went away on holiday.

Here's a heads up for calls coming in from a Zurich number.
Most likely they will be in Thailand, the Philippines or Jakarta, Malaysia . .

Craigslist ad:
Swiss Private Equity Company: Opportunity for TOP CLOSERS (Worldwide)

We are looking for experienced telephone sales people to work from home or are willing to relocate to Zurich.

Requirements:
- Native English or German Speaking Only
- Financial sales background and experience essential
- Ability to drive in deals within the first 2 to 3 weeks
- Book of clients and / or leads is an advantage
- High motivated and reliable personality

Our offer:
- Very competitive commissions, bonuses and incentives.
- TC: 33/11 points on all deals (THIS MEANS THE "BROKER" GETS 33% OF THE MONEY YOU SEND. AND 11% OF THE LOADS IF THEY GET YOU TO INCREASE YOUR "INVESTMENT"
- VoIP with Swiss Phone numbers can be provided
- Back office support for all administrative tasks
- Reliable Swiss/EU Banking facilities
- Payments on time
- Solid setup - active since over 10 years
- Flexible and attractive financial products: PE, PP, HF


Please contact and provide us with your full contact details (email, Skype, mobile).

We will get back to you ASAP.

HANG UP ON THESE CALLERS.
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Old Mar 4, 2018, 11:41am   #4387
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[QUOTE=honeybee1;3019624]hi,
have played a little bit around on this cold sunday regarding chesterfield, sanderson and eureka.
not much turned up. the homepage of chesterfield has apparently vanished (even on the waybackmachine). the robtex-data for sanderson only referes to sonderson. for eureka ltd. there is something. according to the following link the Dutch FSA has already issued a warning against them
(https://verbraucherschutzforum.berli...ing-ltd-178256). At the end this consumer protection agency crossreferences their entry in the UK companies house registry which gives you two names of directors which sound somehow Indian. I am not sure if this really the right "eureka consulting ltd." Ltds can also exist in other countries than the UK.
If you surf a little bit around you quickly find "eureka consulting ltds" in places like nigera, cyprus and mauritius. just from the information currently being found on the web the ones in nigera and cyprus are probably legitimate, but at least the homepage from the one on mauritius looks indeed a little bit unusual.
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Old Mar 20, 2018, 2:45pm   #4388
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Commonwealth Finance Services Inc



A Fraudster born everyday :

March 2018

Dear Mr.

Our company has been commissioned by the U.S. Department of Treasury to be a part of the U.S. Government Stock Holders Amnesty Program.
This program will cater the entire shareholder’s interest in redeeming assets acquired by another company that has been restricted to do business. This is done to give all international investors a full credit to the money that they have invested and lost in the stock market.

We would like to emphasize that the allotted funds for the entire claimant is limited. Therefore, the Department of Treasury instructed us to accomplish this program on a first come first serve basis. If the claimant wish to take part of this course, may we require sending us any of these documents:

1. Copy of the Share Certificate
2. Payment receipt/ Invoice/ Buy Confirmation of all previous transaction
3. Copy of ID (passport, driver’s license, company id)

Every document will be forwarded by us to the Department of Treasury for validation and you will be updated immediately.
Please feel free to contact us at telephone number +1-646-513-2577 for any queries. You may send the documents to our email address at info@cfsigroup.com.


Sincerely,
Dian Hayward
COMMONWEALTH FINANCE SERVICES INC.
Address: Park Avenue Plaza, 55 E 52nd St., New York, NY 10022 United States
Telephone: 1-646-513-2577
Email: info@cfsigroup.com
www.cfsigroup.com
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Old Mar 20, 2018, 10:09pm   #4389
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Hi,
what I have learned sofar is just that using robtex one can easily figure out that there are more pages related to this like http://www.scifgroup.com/
@ everbody else: this is just something like a maneuver, please disregard the content. Should you receive email similar to the one posted above just disregard them.
best hb1
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once on a sucker list always on a sucker list, it never stops....a new boiler room to report, looks very much like setup by the same crooks we know operating out of Manila, pretending to be in Tokyo:

http://www.wellington-capital-group.com/

Just got the brochure sent to my workplace, in a few days time the first "investment broker" going to call, giving me the BS about the super profitable investment that only they know about. Stay away from those gangsters, they don't invest a cent of your money, just make it disappear.
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Old Mar 21, 2018, 7:20am   #4391
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hi tom,
thanks for flagging wellington. I had simply overlooked the very first sentence in the posting before yours.
these pages are becoming repetitive. we have seen the pictures used on the wellington side before and somehow also the NY address given above already looks familiar. what I do not really get is that there people who really believe this. Buying bogus shares is one thing but believing that the US would ever set up a "stockholders amnestey program" (!!!) requires a different level of... not sure about the right word. ...
anyway
have a nice day hb1
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Old Mar 21, 2018, 7:27am   #4392
 
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It is high time the authorities in all countries co-operated to make scamming thieves really pay for their activities imho.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 4:01pm   #4393
 
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Binary Options appears to be the latest organised financial crime.
According to Wealth Recovery International, https://wealthrecoveryint.com/
“We have tracked down the whereabouts of various Binary Options companies and have been able to verify that 99% of Binary Options companies are primarily based in Israel or operated by Israeli nationals. “
Source : https://wealthrecoveryint.com/binary-options-scam/
They give an address at 200 Vesey Street, New York, NY 10281
However they are not to be found in the New York State Department of State as being a registered company !
Has anybody ever had any dealing with this company ?
I am curious to know as they are a number of victims who would like to engage their services and recover their losses.
Please contact me at blackwatch09@gmail.com
Thank you.

Presently I have this company (Wealth Recovery International) telling me they can recover my money from Suisse Option (Biggest Fraud!!!).
I have found this interesting article which actually shows this company is not a fraud.
Nathalie on the phone said they just recovered money from Binary Books...which this article shows is true but with the help of Haggai Camron.

I am wondering ALSO has anyone had any dealings with this company (Wealth Recovery International) if so, what happened?.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 10:00pm   #4394
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Hi,
presumed you are a real victim, . . . what I would ask myself if I might not be a little bit tired of all these heavy sales and marketing tactis, fake-identities, third party accounts etc etc. etc.

Here is a list of Israel based lawyers somebody else prepared last year. It might include the real persons behind wealthrecovery or not and it might also include one false hit but most of them were checked with the Israeli bar association in 2017 and some are really good. I also do not know if the company you dealt with was really based in Israel but sofar it does not sound too unlikely.

http://www.abitbol-associes.com/en/about-us/

http://www.forex-lawyer.com/people/

http://birmanglobal.com/

http://www.barlaw.co.il/attorneys/sarah-miller/ (conflicts check required)

http://www.ademetrioulaw.com/who-we-are/ Cy- based conflicts check required)


The email of HC is also on file somewhere, it is just that currently I can not cut and paste them here.

good night aj.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 4:42pm   #4395
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Binary Options Scam

To the Suisse Option you can add : Geneva Option, Central Option, Grand Option, Quick Option and many more.
They all connect to BNB Markets Ltd., one of the 45 or so Companies registered mainly in the UK but all by now struck off the record.
The two Australian based Directors can also be considered as victims as their particulars had been stolen by the scammers.
The leading Company had been registered in Cyprus, Germany and the UK.
It has by now been dissolved in all three jurisdictions.
The new leading Company has been registered in Belize in May16.
The main Director is an Israeli with an address in Israel and with an extensive knowledge of Banking and Finance.

As for WRI – I would not go down that path (my instinct)
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