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Old Dec 8, 2010, 8:21am   #1
 
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Does anyone have have information about a service offered in the book "Liquid Millionaire". This book is basically a sales pitch for a service called "ISA Trend Investing". The service is a shadow trading service where you pay your fee and get access to a trading strategy that involves using "trending investment funds" inside an ISA (or SIPP) wrapper. You then shadow trade what the service providers are trading. This service is "pioneered" by two brothers Stephen and Paul Sutherland.

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Old Dec 19, 2010, 1:25pm   #2
 
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Have you had any replies to your post? Doesn't look like it that I can see. I too would be interesteed to know what people say.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 1:53pm   #3
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Does anyone have have information about a service offered in the book "Liquid Millionaire". This book is basically a sales pitch for a service called "ISA Trend Investing". The service is a shadow trading service where you pay your fee and get access to a trading strategy that involves using "trending investment funds" inside an ISA (or SIPP) wrapper. You then shadow trade what the service providers are trading. This service is "pioneered" by two brothers Stephen and Paul Sutherland.

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Anything that says 'millionaire' and 'just 3 minutes work a day' in the title is going to be a rip off. So this guy claims if you follow his trades you can 'make millions' yet he appears to live in a 300k house in Oldham, hardly the millionaire lifestyle. These guys make money from selling books and courses to gullible people who believe all the millionaire hype. The only way this guy is going to make you a million is if you start with 2 million.

I see ISACO Ltd (his company) was previously called 'FILTHY RICH ENTERPRISES LIMITED', says it all really.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 4:44pm   #4
 
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cliffconway started this thread Thanks for your research - very illuminating.
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Old Dec 19, 2010, 9:45pm   #5
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Lol Filthy Rich Enterprises Ltd. Great name.

Worth buying the book if it's full of quality comedy.
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Old Jan 10, 2011, 7:39pm   #6
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Download it for free (if you feel like a laugh !!!)

http://www.isaco.co.uk/media/liquid_...naire_free.pdf
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 5:25pm   #7
 
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isaco trend investing - reviews - is it a scam - how relevant is the information provided?

I would like to second the OP - has anyone got experience to share from actually using the service?

We can all have our opinions based on our own interpretation of something - however, this is just opinion and is biased based on our own individual beliefs/cynicism. I would like some concrete evidence on the system employed and whether it has worked for people.

I have read the book 'Liquid Millionnaire' - which is basically an advert for the Shadow Investing service the company offers.

I have also spoken to one of their team to get a feel for how they operate, the business model and whether their claims can be substantiated.

Their sales technique is very slick and is backed up by a strong track record - their claim is to consistently beat the NASDAQ - whether this be to get out of the market and park your ISA in cash during corrections or bear markets, or to be fully invested in top performing funds during bull markets.

There are some high-profile endorsements, a lot of positive reviews of the press plus numerous temp testimonials from happy clients - however, this is all part of a very slick sales approach.

I myself believe that slick sales technique and process is not necessarily evil if the product is good but would love live to hear feedback from anyone who has had a good or bad experience with this company.

Constructive thoughts??
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Old Mar 17, 2011, 7:17pm   #8
 
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Hi all
isaco trend investing - reviews - is it a scam - how relevant is the information provided?

I would like to second the OP - has anyone got experience to share from actually using the service?

We can all have our opinions based on our own interpretation of something - however, this is just opinion and is biased based on our own individual beliefs/cynicism. I would like some concrete evidence on the system employed and whether it has worked for people.

I have read the book 'Liquid Millionnaire' - which is basically an advert for the Shadow Investing service the company offers.

I have also spoken to one of their team to get a feel for how they operate, the business model and whether their claims can be substantiated.

Their sales technique is very slick and is backed up by a strong track record - their claim is to consistently beat the NASDAQ - whether this be to get out of the market and park your ISA in cash during corrections or bear markets, or to be fully invested in top performing funds during bull markets.

There are some high-profile endorsements, a lot of positive reviews of the press plus numerous temp testimonials from happy clients - however, this is all part of a very slick sales approach.

I myself believe that slick sales technique and process is not necessarily evil if the product is good but would love live to hear feedback from anyone who has had a good or bad experience with this company.

Constructive thoughts??
Oh- FFS-A Fool and his money ! - I suppose it's pointless, after a while, trying to stop lemmings jumping off a cliff.
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Those than can, do. Those that can't, teach.
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 1:24pm   #10
 
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Liking the "fool and his money" comment - particularly constructive to people reading the thread and wanting information ... and very presumptive of my character and financial situation ... however I understand if you are not a fan of such products and are skeptical.

I understand the cynicism as this is my opinion on companies offering such promises - however just to play devil's advocate to see if anyone picks up this thread who has had actual experience with this company and model ....

What are the thoughts on the theory investing in funds (not shares) using your ISA allowance and parking in cash when the market seriously corrects to then re-invest when the markets/funds pick up again?

"Those that can, do. Those that can't, teach." - I have learnt lots of important things from very successful people in business who not only can and do, but also teach. Many people who post on this and other specialist forums can and do but also teach aswell. The key is whether people can, do and teach aswell - and put their money where their mouth is so to speak.

A more appropriate comment would be "those who post on forums with constructive advice based on fact are helpful, those who are negative with no reasoning, aren't" - just to play the same game.

I imagine the answer to my question and the OP is that there is no-one posting with any experiences of the above company - which is ominous.
This could be a good thing (I myself would be making any negative experiences known to other people by posting on forums to help prevent any more lemmings falling off the cliff).
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What are the thoughts on the theory investing in funds (not shares) using your ISA allowance and parking in cash when the market seriously corrects to then re-invest when the markets/funds pick up again?
it's a great strategy but try to do it successfully.......

What you're basically saying is sell around the highs and then buy around the lows. Again, try to do it in realtime trading.
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Old Mar 18, 2011, 5:52pm   #12
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A more appropriate comment would be "those who post on forums with constructive advice based on fact are helpful, those who are negative with no reasoning, aren't" - just to play the same game.

I imagine the answer to my question and the OP is that there is no-one posting with any experiences of the above company - which is ominous.
This could be a good thing (I myself would be making any negative experiences known to other people by posting on forums to help prevent any more lemmings falling off the cliff).

You have been given constructive advice, don't get involved in these schemes. Perhaps it wasn't put in the way you expected but if you saw the number of people who come on here asking questions like this then you'd appreciate the frustration of seeing yet another person ignoring all advice (and common sense). It seems you have convinced yourself this is a great idea and now you are desperately searching for someone to tell you that you're right. Anyone who says otherwise isnt being constructive in your mind.

Think of it this way, if an elderly relative told you he got an e mail from a Nigerian general who needed help transferring money you'd tell him to have nothing to do with it (at least I hope you would). You wouldn't need to have direct experience of the general to know it was a scam. In this case you are the pensioner intent on losing your money and we are the relatives trying to get you to wise up. Why we bother I don't know.

If you get involved with things like this you will lose your money. Get used to the idea, there's no free money.
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There is a thread on Motley Fool
http://boards.fool.co.uk/hi-im-steph...?sort=postdate
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Old Apr 28, 2011, 3:37pm   #14
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Do people not actually want to learn how to trade anymore? Is everyone after the quick and easy fix?

Im still learning the ropes myself, but Im sure we will get out of this business what we put in.
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Hi Rob VS
Have you, or any body else, found out any more about 'Liquid Millionaire'?
Like you, I have looked at the system, read the book and the theory does make sense.
Some of the phrases 'make millions....etc' are unfortunate but I personally think the idea does make sense.....but only if you read it and dont make judgements based on headlines.
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