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Old Jan 8, 2017, 5:44pm   #153
 
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not sure about the hong kong connection , a few times when i had an appointment booked and it didnt come on time the excuse was the head office hong kong was either in or had something going on, again all lies
yes quite possibly lies, I only asked because hong kong is mentioned in a pr.com promotional press release which is nicely timed with their march website launch. also promoting their move? but they've only just started!! and mention of their impressive growth, but how did they grow with no adverts or website prior to march 2015??

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London, United Kingdom, March 05, 2015 --(PR.com)-- ATS is a software development company based at Puddle Dock in Blackfriars, London. They produce and utilise a range of leading trading tools, including the ATS 1Trader Software. ATS has its headquarters in Hong Kong and have recently relocated their London office on the back of some impressive growth last year. Part of their success comes down to the structured approach to trading that they offer their clients.
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Old Jan 8, 2017, 6:29pm   #154
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yes quite possibly lies, I only asked because hong kong is mentioned in a pr.com promotional press release which is nicely timed with their march website launch. also promoting their move? but they've only just started!! and mention of their impressive growth, but how did they grow with no adverts or website prior to march 2015??
what was it mark told me 14 years or something like that when i asked him a bit about how long they had been going,
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thank you lightening , appreciate your input , not sure about the others here , but im not that computer literate , i did as much of a search as i could , i found that it was called analitical a few years ago , but what sold it for me was a few posts in a forum where a strategically placed thread and e mail addy was placed knowing that the likes of me would find it , i did and sent the fella a message where his reply was what i wanted to hear , i then went ahead and parted with the money . but alarm bells were ringing even then as i sent him a message to say ive done it , but no reply .
once in its hard then to really question the guys on the phone as you really dont know anything about the business but there to learn , so many times i felt like ripping into this mark fella but didnt , as i didnt want to **** him off , but he knows this and just kept fobbing me off , and basically using me and my money to benefit the stocks that they had , so get my money in then sell the ones they had .the terminology "pump and dump" again againsed the law. so the whole set up was a scam .
john i think thats it mate good luck , a bit of patience is needed but should come out on your side
Hi Peter,
I've started the process tonight for the bigger sum of money we transferred with Lloyds Bank. I quoted what has happened and how we now look to getting scammed after a year of being strung along. I mentioned section 75 but because of the time lapse and because of the nature of how the money went (via faster payment bank transfer), a 'payment in error' process is being completed for me. A nice lady at Lloyds spoke with her call centre manger and said this is apparently the option we need to go down. This will look to try and retrieve the money back from the beneficiaries of the Merto account associated with ATS. She pointed out that there's no cast iron guarantee the money will be retrieved but that it is certainly done on a best efforts basis between the banks. I hope they come through for me. At least something is happening and I wasn't just fobbed off by them on calling, given the time that's elapsed with this elaborate scam.
I also told Lloyds that my initial deposit came from Nationwide and I'll be contacting them tomorrow too. I wanted to go at the bigger, more important value of money with Lloyds first. They've taken my Action Fraud case ref down too to pass on to Metro bank as part of the process, maybe Metro wi'll already be aware that there have been dodgy goings on, if others here have already been reimbursed through them.
I'll update my action fraud report with the payment in reference error tonight.
Hope there's a silver lining to all this.

Ps, I've been told that it can take 20 working days to be notified by post of the outcome.

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Old Jan 9, 2017, 9:31pm   #156
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Hi Peter,
I've started the process tonight for the bigger sum of money we transferred with Lloyds Bank. I quoted what has happened and how we now look to getting scammed after a year of being strung along. I mentioned section 75 but because of the time lapse and because of the nature of how the money went (via faster payment bank transfer), a 'payment in error' process is being completed for me. A nice lady at Lloyds spoke with her call centre manger and said this is apparently the option we need to go down. This will look to try and retrieve the money back from the beneficiaries of the Merto account associated with ATS. She pointed out that there's no cast iron guarantee the money will be retrieved but that it is certainly done on a best efforts basis between the banks. I hope they come through for me. At least something is happening and I wasn't just fobbed off by them on calling, given the time that's elapsed with this elaborate scam.
I also told Lloyds that my initial deposit came from Nationwide and I'll be contacting them tomorrow too. I wanted to go at the bigger, more important value of money with Lloyds first. They've taken my Action Fraud case ref down too to pass on to Metro bank as part of the process, maybe Metro wi'll already be aware that there have been dodgy goings on, if others here have already been reimbursed through them.
I'll update my action fraud report with the payment in reference error tonight.
Hope there's a silver lining to all this.

Ps, I've been told that it can take 20 working days to be notified by post of the outcome.

John
ok john good luck , the only thing i can mention from what you did today ,in relation to me is the card payment the deposit , that triggered the other amount , so the card was first that was put under way then the larger amount after , seemed to be in my case two different people dealing with it
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Hi Peter,
Yes sure. I'll make Nationwide aware that it was the payment from them that started with process. At least something with the bank is started. I guess if it turns sour I'll be able to raise a complaint and then through the financial ombudsman if required. I sincerely hope I can avoid all that though. Crime ref case is updated with the detail.

I hope that collectively we are all helping to close in on the ATS scumbags. Just need the police to do their bit now.

John
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Old Jan 16, 2017, 6:04pm   #158
 
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Yes sure. I'll make Nationwide aware that it was the payment from them that started with process. At least something with the bank is started. I guess if it turns sour I'll be able to raise a complaint and then through the financial ombudsman if required. I sincerely hope I can avoid all that though. Crime ref case is updated with the detail.

I hope that collectively we are all helping to close in on the ATS scumbags. Just need the police to do their bit now.

John
Surprise, surprise, Lloyds have sent me a letter saying that they've completed investigations into payments that left my account and have contacted the receiving bank/s. They are saying that on this occasion they have been unable to to retrieve my money. The letter has come back within days (was told it can take up to 20 days). I guess it's financial ombudsman time for me then. Grrr
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peter richards started this thread concentrate on the nationwide john , if they come through lloyds will have to follow, keep quoting section 75
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concentrate on the nationwide john , if they come through lloyds will have to follow, keep quoting section 75
Hi Peter,
Sure, will do. In respect of Lloyds though I expected as much since they are one of the worst at pulling their fingers out where lost money is concerned. There is is a free 24/7 phone number for the fraud operations department on the paperwork that came. Should I call them up and ask what they have actually done (whilst quoting section 75)? Someone back at Metro Bank must surely be able to see who is linked to the ATS account. I'm also not convinced that they have actually bothered to go and investigate (it seems far too quick since last week) Also, should I ask for the letter of deadlock and look to take this to the FO as a matter of course anyway?
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